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reply posted on 14-5-2009 @ 10:22 PM by ZombieSlayer
Vaccine Ingredients
www.informedchoice.info...

I bookmarked this site back in 2007. It lists some of the known ingredients of vaccines.


reply posted on 14-5-2009 @ 10:47 PM by ZombieSlayer
Originally posted by AlphaTier
Does anyone really think that if the CDC, Health and Human Services, the US Preventive Health Task Force or any other US government entity believed vaccines were so dangerous, that they would make vaccination mandatory for 3 million members of their military?



Yah, well does anybody remember Gulf War syndrome? It was in the news just this past winter that drugs and vaccines administered to troops (among other things) caused 1 in 4 troops to have gulf war syndrome.



Gulf War illness is real, new federal report says

An extensive federal report released Monday concludes that roughly one in four of the 697,000 U.S. veterans of the 1990-91 Gulf War suffer from Gulf War illness.

That illness is a condition now identified as the likely consequence of exposure to toxic chemicals, including pesticides and a drug administered to protect troops against nerve gas.

The 452-page report states that "scientific evidence leaves no question that Gulf War illness is a real condition with real causes and serious consequences for affected veterans."

Link: www.cnn.com...




Anthrax vaccine

-During Operation Desert Storm, 41% of U.S. combat soldiers and 57-75% of UK combat soldiers were vaccinated against anthrax.

-Even after the war, troops that had never been deployed overseas, after receiving the anthrax vaccine, developed symptoms similar to those of Gulf War Syndrome. The Pentagon failed to report to Congress 20,000 cases where soldiers were hospitalized after receiving the vaccine between 1998 and 2000. Despite repeated assurances that the vaccine was safe and necessary, a U.S. Federal Judge ruled that there was good cause to believe it was harmful, and he ordered the Pentagon to stop administering it in October 2004. The ban was lifted in February 2008 after the FDA re-examined and approved the drug again. Anthrax vaccine is the only substance suspected in Gulf War syndrome to which forced exposure has since been banned to protect troops from it.

Link: en.wikipedia.org...






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reply posted on 14-5-2009 @ 11:09 PM by AlphaTier
reply to post by conjure314


Can you back this up with data or a source?

I highly doubt these claims.


reply posted on 14-5-2009 @ 11:10 PM by AlphaTier
reply to post by ZombieSlayer


100% of troops that deploy to CENTCOM receive the anthrax vaccination now.

They may be something to the Gulf War Syndrome, but I don't believe it is vaccine related.


reply posted on 14-5-2009 @ 11:42 PM by ZombieSlayer
reply to post by AlphaTier


There's no doubt that troops today are still getting an anthrax vaccine. The anthrax vaccine currently used is not the same vaccine that was issued during the 1st Gulf War though. So I don't understand your point?

And yes the vaccine used during the Gulf War has been listed as one of the causes of Gulf War Syndrome. Read the federal report, you might become a believer.

This is one example that shows that vaccines aren't always safe and that there are risks.

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reply posted on 15-5-2009 @ 01:44 AM by AlphaTier
Originally posted by ZombieSlayer
reply to post by AlphaTier


There's no doubt that troops today are still getting an anthrax vaccine. The anthrax vaccine currently used is not the same vaccine that was issued during the 1st Gulf War though. So I don't understand your point?

And yes the vaccine used during the Gulf War has been listed as one of the causes of Gulf War Syndrome. Read the federal report, you might become a believer.

This is one example that shows that vaccines aren't always safe and that there are risks.

[edit on 14-5-2009 by ZombieSlayer]


The anthrax vaccine used now is different.

The drug that was to protect troops from nerve gas wasn't the anthrax vaccine. It was 2-PAM Cl. Anthrax vaccine has never been correlated with gulf war syndrome. Please source the federal report you are talking about. I know what the report says and I know the data behind it. There might be someone familiar on it.

I believe TPTB genuinely to maximize the lifespan of the troops. What other outcome would they want?

[edit on 15-5-2009 by AlphaTier] my bad, spelling problems

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reply posted on 15-5-2009 @ 02:07 AM by AlphaTier
Originally posted by ZombieSlayer
Vaccine Ingredients
www.informedchoice.info...

I bookmarked this site back in 2007. It lists some of the known ingredients of vaccines.




Going down this list:

1. Acel-Immune DTaP, Wyeth-Ayerst: No such thing. MILVAX - Package Inserts

2. Act HIB Haemophilus influenza Type B, Connaught Laboratories, No such thing. MILVAX - Package Inserts

3. Attenuvax, Merck & Co., Inc.: Neomycin, chick embryo, gelatin. Neomycin is a common antibiotic. Chick embryo is the scientific way of saying eggs. Sorbital is common in foods. Gelatin??? What flavor of JELLO is your favorite?

4. Biavax, rubella, Merck & Co., Inc.: See #3

5. BioThrax, anthrax adsorbed, BioPort Corporation: No longer used.

I can keep going down the list, but it's erroneous and a waste of time.

Like I said earlier, the government isn't going to inoculate their greatest defense with a bunch of poisonous substances.


reply posted on 15-5-2009 @ 03:20 AM by Eye of Horus
reply to post by colt122


You ever hear of home schooling? Most people couldn't handle the prospect of having to teach there own kids instead of leting the state do it. I grew up in a faimly that did home schooling back in the 60's. You can say I came from a faimly of free thinking hippies, and I turned out great. So you have to think of it this way, do you have the time to teach your own kids, or do you let the state teach them, vacinate them, program them. So that one day they turn YOU in. Its a known fact that the majority of the people that turn others in are faimly members. Just thought id give you that to think about.




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