New World Bible the story of the truth, page 3

reply to post by reugen

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Reugen - I can't give you a reference right now, but I was reading in an excellent newspaper and also watching in the news the reports of psychologists trying to explain the demonstrations that occured in Belgium when the so called blasphemous cartoons of the prophet Mohommad were published.
They all agreed that the reason for this outrage was the challenge in the brain to the perceived reality of the individual. The 'challenge' to the belief system caused chemical and physical confusion, anger, outrage and the huge reaction that occured.

I wish I could give you an exact reference or link but I can only tell you what I read and heard from various doctors of psychology.

Haivng said that, I saw the same reaction in relatives when I challenged their belief system......outrage, anger, violence....even disgust.

But the key part of the studies noted that 'belief' was all centered in one part of the brain and hence the severe reaction.

Imagine if I suddenly told you that your house is no longer your house, or your car is not your relatives are not your relatives.........confusion, anger etc . A persons past and horizons no longer exist as they previously perceived them.

I will do some research on this and try to come up with some good links to these studies.

reply to post by Elliot

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Ok thank you, i will try to do some research myself, i know there have been some scientific groups trying to determine what part of the brain is activated when people have a religious experience, mapping the human brain. To your statement, if its backed up by science it makes absolute sense, i too would be angry if someone told me it wasnt my house, that i got it all wrong and that i have a weird conception of reality.

Thanks.

[edit on 2009/5/15 by reugen]

reply to post by Eye of Horus

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I'm glad I'm not the only one my friend, you get the cigars and I'll get the bourbon.

Religion is the only thing that keeps people so divided and its extremely convenient that such a mass controlling scheme has absolutely no proof to what are outrageous claims in most part. For me you don't have any belief in your self if you have to blindly follow something you can't even prove. This is not a rip at everyone religious, its the nutjobs and eccentrics of every religion.

Believing in yourself is so much more important, you can never let yourself down

Originally posted by ItsallCrazy
reply to post by Eye of Horus

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I'm glad I'm not the only one my friend, you get the cigars and I'll get the bourbon.

Religion is the only thing that keeps people so divided and its extremely convenient that such a mass controlling scheme has absolutely no proof to what are outrageous claims in most part. For me you don't have any belief in your self if you have to blindly follow something you can't even prove. This is not a rip at everyone religious, its the nutjobs and eccentrics of every religion.

Believing in yourself is so much more important, you can never let yourself down

Religion is hardly the only thing that keeps people divided. Take a peak at the tower of babel story, and try to see the understanding behind it. Doesn't matter if it's a true or false story, look beyond that and just look at the general understanding behind what the story says.

It states that man is united under 1 language, culture and so forth, and there was no limit for them. Sounds good etc. But then they come down and confuse the language of men, spread them out and they all have their different cultures. Sound bad right?

Why would this be done? Because if man had been allowed out in the universe, then they would have warred and enslaved any race they came across because it was different and didn't share that culture, language and so forth. And after man is confused etc, that is exactly what men do to each other. They start warring and enslaving each other.

While there was peace among them while they were all under the same culture, it only covered up the true nature under it.

Now if this story is true or not, what is true is that today man still wars with each other. And because they are different. While it may seem that the obvious way to deal with this problem would be to once again unite under a common culture, religion and so forth(and no religion is a religion), it will really only cover up the real problem again.

So it is not about religion, it's about people need to learn how to live and let live. Learn how to accept people for who they are, even if that means they believe things you do not like religion. If you want the freedom to choose for yourself, then you must also allow it in others.

Doesn't require faith to understand that, and even if it is true or not it doesn't matter because the understanding behind it and how it applies to the world today is. And it didn't require that specific story to get that understanding either, but it does the job for some.

If you look at organized religion, then you will see it's not about the understanding, it's all about the literal. You talk about believing in "yourself", but yet that is also what the bible says in understanding.

Jesus for example says that god is within you, and that you are the authority, not the scribes(which are those who write the scripture). He says it directly. So it is about trusting that which is within you, that which is truly you(god), rather than accepting what the people of this world tell you. It says how much longer will people keep accepting the wicked. They will not understand and they will walk on in darkness. And that is what we see with blind faith.

Christianity is everything Jesus warns about, has nothing to do with what he said. It's the "new" religion that came after jesus, in his name, and then proceeded to gain political power and killed/tortured anyone who didn't go along with it. Pretty much everything Christians claim about some new "anti-christ" religion, they did. But they look at every other religion but there own.

I don't want to ramble on too much, but if you come to actually understand things(bible too), then you will find that it is very much talking about the ignorance and such of those people who just accept what men tell them and have blind faith. Alot of understanding in it, and even examples of what not to do, but it's not found in "facts" and if something is real or not.

Most of it is allegorical. Never meant to be taken literally. Just meant to give you and understanding that is useful in the world today.

It's the ones in "religion" who can only see the literal and not the understanding that fight and so forth. Yes they are all ignorant, but if you truly want to make a difference then you have to gain and help them with understanding. Just trying to force them to accept something different and you will just be playing the evil for them to point at. Which only pushes them further down in their beliefs. No help at all.



[edit on 15-5-2009 by badmedia]

reply to post by badmedia

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I'm familiar with the story and I know exactly what you mean.

I think I just get so vexed with the stupidity behind some religions, as I said its not all religious people as there are aspects to most religions that should hold a place in some people's heart, but its people's use of religion that enrages me.

The downright ignorance, people use it for every excuse, its embedded in our national anthems, our money, why do we as a society (in general, not everyone) need such constricts. Needing the belief in a higher being and following set traits otherwise you'll eternally burn..

I just don't get it I guess

[edit on 15-5-2009 by ItsallCrazy]

Originally posted by wonderworld
reply to post by candide

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Well the only difference in this Bible and Gods is that Gods has been spread throughout the world as Prophesized and this one is lurking in the back ground. It could be the MWO Bible. That's the only rational idea I have on that.

The muisc on that video was not God worthly and quite the opposite.

God has a bible ? .. and when you say spread throughout the world and prophesized.. do you actually mean forced into the world and propaganderised ? ... Lets not forget how many innocent people were killed by the crusades by your bible... and you have the nerve to turn up your nose to the ending song ? ..

reply to post by tgreen2103

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I thought so too. i really didnt get how they were all connected until i read it. I just thought it was all different people.

reply to post by heyo

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It was just the first songs that popped in my head after I watched the clips I had put together. Then after I watched the video, I couldnt not put it in aftr I noticed it had the DIA type gas mask and the bloody cross with people hiding underground and dying, it just seemed all too fitting.



[edit on 15-5-2009 by paraniod??]

reply to post by badmedia

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Ok, mate answer this one simple question. name any war throughout all history up to the present that didn't have anything to do with religion? Not so simple when you think on it.

Originally posted by Eye of Horus
reply to post by ItsallCrazy

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The truth... I don't think so

Gives that man a cigar. Finaly someone else that has woken up from the program. All religions are fake. It is the oldest lie told by TPTB to keep the sheeple in line. To keep humanity away from learning there true destiny. After 30 years of having my eyes open I finaly find another. Welcome to the real world brother.

Why is it that you and so many others jump on these threads and express such hatred for the Bible or God. Dont fall for the control thing. No one controls my relationship with God. It's as simple as free choice. No one is forcing this on you.

I see a lot of this here. Is it recently new to bash God or have these threads been fuming for decades?

As mad as you appear God loves you too. Weird isnt it??

reply to post by mortalengine

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God does NOT have a Bible he allowed it to be written. He doesnt allow anyone to add to it or take away from it.

Several cults branched off of the Bible. It's even misused to this day. I hired a Christian MINISTER to remodel my home and he screwed it up and ripped me off. This does not mean all Christians are bad.

Do you even believe in Good (God) and Evil (Devil)?


[edit on 15-5-2009 by wonderworld]

[edit on 15-5-2009 by wonderworld]

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