Originally posted by OhZone
Here we go again.
We are spending millions in welfare and yet there are tax payers who will scream at the notion that poor people should be prevented from multiplying indefinitly.
I say sterilize them all.
The poor in the world are growing poorer and greater in percentage of the entire population.
Really want a war on poverty?
Sterilize them and let them die out.
This would cut welfare payments back by at least 80%.
The remaining folks could support themselves on their low wages and no children would have to suffer.
One joker here thinks that not paying the unwed mother support would solve the problem....wonder what he/she is using for a brain.
But he/she is against forced sterilization. Maybe he/she should make a personal pledge of cash support.
I expect to get flamed, but I'm used to that.
I call it as I see it.
There is nothing like cold logic for efficiency in solving problems.
Oh, who will make that decision?
The individual's life will speak for itself.
Unskilled drop out that can't read, write or speak the language coherently...no question about it.
Originally posted by misfitoy
*sigh* I see this subject come up on so many occasions in this forum, I'm getting quite numb... and lost. I just wish people would understand that everybody (and their situation) is as individual as, well... as each individual. No two people, or the situations that led them to where they are today, are alike. I'm just saying people should consider not to stereotype or label 'groups' (and what should happen to them) without having experienced each person's life first.
Congrats OP. You have convinced me that you do not deserve freedom. You are just yet another person who thinks they have the right to control other peoples lives.
You are the reason this country is so screwed up. People like you who aren't happy enough being able to make decisions for their own life, they believe they are able to make decisions for other peoples lives.
Those who can't be happy with a single life to live make me sick.
Originally posted by jackieps1975
The young lady they were interviewing for the piece was an unmarried nursing student. (Key word here...student), with no intentions of marrying the *baby daddy*.
Now before I get attacked, let me just state that I am all for breeding if you are a contributing member of society. I do not care if you are single, homosexual, or any other societal taboo for that matter, just as long as you are able to provide proper care and upbringing to your child, without becoming an infringement on society (or me as a hardworking tax payer!).
To be perfectly honest, I am in favor of mandatory birth control. Not only in teens, but also in those that are unable to pull their proverbial "weight" in this country. It may sound cruel and inhuman but it's not. I am not talking about sterilization or anything invasive or dehumanizing. I'm simply stating that if individuals cannot act responsibly, rather than burdening the populus, keep them in check in some manner. We are overpopulated. The working class of America is every dreg of society's meal ticket and I've about had enough of that. I don't condone abortion and I also don't condone bringing children into unfavorable situations just for the sake of not having an abortion! Rather than perpetuate these situations of moral turmoil, why not make one of the long-term birth control devices mandatory for those who are under-age or ill equipped to raise a child??? I personally believe that many individuals and society as a whole would benefit. Ineffectual, invasive and blatantly ridiculous laws are passed every day. Why not something that would actually HELP us as a whole? I think it's perfectly reasonable.
Originally posted by gimme_some_truth
If she gets pregnant and she ends up being on welfare or what have you, there is not much that can be done. The government will not just allow these babies to go hungry or with out healthcare.
The issue, you have with not wanting your hard earned money to go to people like that, is understandable, and there are people who abuse this systen to get as much money from the government as possible (octomom)....
So perhaps a more reasonable move to make would be to limit the money that they can get. To give them just enough for the kids, and give it in a form that can not be spent on un needed junk. Food stamps for example would be a wise thing to give to parents who need it. A cheaper or free healthcare system for parents in that situation.
I don't know, I am just throwing ideas out, but I truly believe all the ones I have come up with are MUCh better than forcing women to go on birth control. The bottom line is it is none of my business who has sex and when. It is not the governments either, however when it does happen, it is our duty to make sure those children are safe, fed and sheltered and loved.
We can not just stop giving them money, I can understand how you might feel about the women but it is not about them it is about the kids that they ahve brought into this world.
Originally posted by ravenshadow13
reply to post by mopusvindictus
Well, right. I mean, it's kind of crude but the way I see it, we're just animals. Huge eukaryotic multicellular organisms. If it wasn't for technology and medication, we would all die a lot earlier. And the healthiest of us would live on to reproduce. Nowadays, everyone passes their genes along, even if they are evolutionarily weak. And the elderly are kept alive for much longer through artificial means. Which is more important? When do you just let people die? It's hard because we all love things so much, and we have these silly emotions.
That's the thing with abortion and birth control. People say "It's a life! It's a future!" I say "Honestly, it's a bunch of cells right now. You never know what can happen."
Kind of awful, but kind of true.
I beleive this is the fall of our society...survival of the fittest kept the human race strong!!!! It weeded out the worthless genetics.
Nowadays, everyone passes their genes along, even if they are evolutionarily weak