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Police Encourage Citizens To Report People Who Drive Nice Cars

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posted on May, 14 2009 @ 01:13 PM
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Originally posted by Darthorious
Wow that's just a bit desperate if you ask me.

"Oh it's OK if you went to school for 20 years to be a full fledged neurosurgeon and spent around a million on your degree. Your just not allowed to spend it."

"Keep it in the bank you know the economies bad right now and you might need that extra money for food before too long. We're just watching out for you best interest."

2 months later

"Oh I'm sorry sir it seems the bank went bankrupt."


Where in the article did it say that you can't spend your hard earned money?
The poster says:
"Is someone you know living a lavish lifestyle from proceedings of crime? Don't stand for it"

The thread title is misleading. Someone should change it and also add the poster into the first post of this thread.
www.prisonplanet.com...




posted on May, 14 2009 @ 01:26 PM
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Originally posted by 0010110011101
reply to post by DGFenrir
 


Wrong. Let me paint you a little picture:

You phone the police with a false report. They decide there is some merit in it. They investigate either by setting up some sort of surveillance or by going to the property and arrest/search/both the "target".

They then find out it was a false claim and there is nothing to investigate. You are still diverting resources away from where they can be better used - catching real criminals.

Which ever way you dress it up it is still wasting precious resources.

According to your line of argument you presumably think that phoning the fire department or an ambulance for a hoax is also fair game and legitimate?


You just don't get it do you?
Why the hell do they need surveillance? They start from checking your bank account. They find out where you work and how much money you make. From your bank account they see your expenses. If someone reports you driving a car worth more than you (or any in your family) make and there's no sign of it on your bank account THEN they are going to investigate it.
And I didn't tell it was okay to make false reports. I only said that making one or a few wouldn't waste any resources.



posted on May, 14 2009 @ 01:32 PM
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I did add the link in the first post. I also added a link to BBC for you AJ haters. If you would use your noggin and just investigate a little for yourself you would find it is legitimate. Google just lights up when you search it.

Here is the Sussex crimestoppers web site so you can see:

Too Much Bling



posted on May, 14 2009 @ 01:41 PM
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I see the link but not too many people read the sources here. And just because it was first linked to infowars people though that there is some conspiracy involved like privacy invasion or something. In reality it's just a call for people to report those who earn their income illegaly or who they suspect doing so.
I'm not doubting it's legitimacy and I certainly don't hate AJ if you were referring to me.

Peace.



posted on May, 14 2009 @ 01:41 PM
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OK, you're right, clearly I'm just mad and am in a small minority thinking that purposefully wasting police time is a bad idea.

Please carry on.



posted on May, 14 2009 @ 01:49 PM
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Originally posted by Republican08
This is eerily similar to the South Park Episode, "The Recession".

Were the town hurls squirrells at Mr(s) Garrison for buying something in the recession.

I've got my squirells.


lol i loved that episode. the way the government decides what something is worth and how they choose a bailout had me rollin.

"there is a young jew telling everyone to spend money!"

"the one person we all have to thank for ending the recession in south park...Barack Obama!" and kyles reaction to it. lol.

In a way people do sort of do this on their own but it's more of a gossip thing between jealous people. "oh so and so has a brand new car in the driveway, how they could afford such a thing? They must sell drugs." Just give those jealous nosy neighbors a reason and they would love nothing more than to call the cops on people for having things that are nice. I could definitely see something like this happening in the states. People are too involved in other peoples business that it becomes their life. It's pathetic.



posted on May, 14 2009 @ 01:50 PM
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Originally posted by 0010110011101
reply to post by DGFenrir
 


OK, you're right, clearly I'm just mad and am in a small minority thinking that purposefully wasting police time is a bad idea.

Please carry on.


As I already said a false report would only waste the time of those examining the reports. If the reported person has a bank account and all of his/her income and expenses related to the report are there then the police won't waste any more time on it.

I know the british do come up with some conspiracy theory provoking and unnecessary ideas at fighting terrorism/crime but this one doesn't have that "fishy" smell to it.



posted on May, 14 2009 @ 01:53 PM
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The problem I have with this is not the criminals, it is the average Joe that gets put under investigation for nothing but a nosy neighbor. Guilty until proven innocent is no way to live life, but that is what our society has become. Turning neighbor on neighbor. Upon reading some of the post from people who come from communist countries, saying this is the same thing they ran from is a scary thing.

This is just how Nazi Germany started. Slowly eroding rights away, little at a time so you don't feel the wound. Then one day you wake up and say, my god what happened.

Ben Franklin has a quote that I love:

"Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety."



posted on May, 14 2009 @ 01:55 PM
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Fair enough, for all concerned I think we'll agree to disagree.

To change course slightly, rather than making false claims, do you think it would be acceptable to legitimately call someone out in this way?



posted on May, 14 2009 @ 02:08 PM
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I see your point.
But even if the neighbour manages to come up with a good story for the cops then the average Joe shouldn't be able to tell the difference whether he's investigated or not if he's living a normal life with all his daily business done with his own bank account and if he has nothing to hide.

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Sorry, english is my third language and I don't get what you're trying to say here



posted on May, 14 2009 @ 02:12 PM
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If English is your third language then congratulations my friend! I barely make a coherent sentence and English is my first language!!!!

What I'm saying is, do you think this method of alerting the police to your suspicions is acceptable? Would you personally call the bling line if you thought a neighbour was making money illegally?



posted on May, 14 2009 @ 02:23 PM
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But buying into the, if your not doing anything wrong you have nothing to worry about, crowd is eroding your rights. This is reversed psychology at it's best.

There are so many laws in the U.S. I cannot even find a number. How are we supposed to know what not to do until we have been told it was illegal?



posted on May, 14 2009 @ 03:22 PM
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Originally posted by 0010110011101
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If English is your third language then congratulations my friend! I barely make a coherent sentence and English is my first language!!!!

What I'm saying is, do you think this method of alerting the police to your suspicions is acceptable? Would you personally call the bling line if you thought a neighbour was making money illegally?


Yeah, it is acceptable. At least I accept it. It's ok as long as I don't have anything to hide.

Being proven innocent brings a smile on my face actually. During my school days I lived in the dorm and the cops organized raids once in a while. It was funny to see them leave empty-handed.


Even though I don't live in the UK I still hope the police'll do their best not to interfere with reported people's daily lives.

reply to post by timewalker
 


As long as no new laws are established related to this then it's not eroding anybody's rights. Reporting someone wasn't forbidden before. They're only encouraging people to do so and also established a separate phone number for this purpose if they didn't have it before.
Nosy, jealous or otherwise negative neighbours are what people should try to avoid here.


There are many laws but maybe common sense (hope it's the right expression for this
) will tell us what is right and what is wrong? Noone has ever told me that it's bad to kill people or deal with drugs etc and I'm not doing any of it. And those more complicated laws we learn from school, tv or internet. We just have to keep our ears and eyes open.
An average Joe shouldn't encounter a situation where he doesn't know what is legal and what is not.
"Think first, act later"

I'm not trying to argue you guys here. I'm only looking at the world from both sides of the fence.



posted on May, 14 2009 @ 03:41 PM
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Welcome to the sonders of Socialism, where everyone is just as poor as the next person, and unless you are part of the elite, you are not allowed to have "too much stuff"....



posted on May, 14 2009 @ 05:31 PM
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I don't live in London, but if I did, I'd get everyone I know to call their Bling/ring constable and tell them they'd seen an old lady with a big hat riding in the back of a chauffeured Bentley who looks like she should be at home watching the tellie.



posted on May, 14 2009 @ 08:02 PM
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I really do not think the police in the UK realize how rediculous this policy is and how it will affect their daily duties to protect innocent individuals from harm. This ring the bling hotline will could quickly become the clich snitch bash your competition hotline. Or perhaps it will become the hate on your rich neighbor because one cant afford nice things hotline. Do police officers really want to waste their time with these head games. In the end, they would be on the receiving end of head game as their government would ultimately hold them responsible if anyone in the real clich crowd gets harrassed for being well off. I have heard of selective law enforcement before, but this policy seems to blanket everyone on the isle who wants to make waves. Burying everyone under the wake of everyone elses covetedness makes me think they need to have some new elections out in the UK. As good men drown in stupidity, criminals find new exuses (loopholes) like floaties in every new law established by the excuse making minority BMW driving luxury maniacs. I really think this policy is cute, everyone gets to jump through the criminal loophole alike, very befitting of a community who wants to live a life without laws by making more of them which dont make any sense or matter at all. I just cant stop laughing about the whole thing. I need a drink to cool these flames of wicked laughter.



posted on May, 14 2009 @ 09:10 PM
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Originally posted by 0010110011101
reply to post by DGFenrir
 


Wrong. Let me paint you a little picture:

You phone the police with a false report. They decide there is some merit in it. They investigate either by setting up some sort of surveillance or by going to the property and arrest/search/both the "target".

They then find out it was a false claim and there is nothing to investigate. You are still diverting resources away from where they can be better used - catching real criminals.

Which ever way you dress it up it is still wasting precious resources.

According to your line of argument you presumably think that phoning the fire department or an ambulance for a hoax is also fair game and legitimate?


If this was the end of it, it would all be fine and dandy, but these people will open these investigations and they can use it viciously to destroy every aspect of your life.

They can go to friends, family, neighbours, and even if they don't find proof, they can keep the investigations opened for years, and they can spread rumours.

If you go over the Jiverly Wong case, an informant called in a report that he was a drug user and that he was going to rob a bank, that was over a decade or more ago, nothing came of it, but it was still out there after his death the rumour was spread to the papers. These types of investigations give them the in to destroy people's lives.

Like many here, I use to think that they investigated these complaints and then just either found the person guilty or innocent and that was the end of it, but it's not.

Check out the term Gang Stalking www.GangStalkingWorld.com...

This is just what they need in the U.K. they already open 24/7 investigations for other minor infractions, like living in the wrong school district, throwing out the garbage, being anti-social, these call in's will destroy lives.



posted on May, 15 2009 @ 02:13 AM
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When I spoke about the taxman having a little bite of extra earnings , it'll be like gambling and share dealing, you don't have to pay tax on it as yet, but if enough people are doing it then the taxman will see he's losing a fair bit of money, and then the Governments will increase taxation on gambling and shares winnings.
Or like in teh case a while ago where a guy had somemoney in his car and didn't want to explain where it came from the authorities 'confiscated' it. see my point now?
If you have a bit of flash cash, from gambling say, someone who doesn't know you gamble or dislikes you can inform the authorities and you'll get a visit, if you cannot show proof of gambling winnings then they'll take it off you .



posted on May, 15 2009 @ 08:20 AM
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The taxman will get his share from the tax I pay every time I buy something. And not everyone wins from gambling. Most people lose. The casinos get money and pay wages to their employees and taxes. The taxman gets his share either way. Gambling should be taxed if it's not already. Too many people waste their savings on gambling.


Why did that man hide the source of his money? If it's legal then why hide it?


Don't casinos keep records?
And I doubt that too many people have won enough from gambling to buy an expensive Jaguar or a Ferrari or any other reason for your neighbour to report you.

Didn't find it anywhere in the article but I don't think that "My neighbour is driving a new Hummer which he shouldn't" is enough to report someone..

reply to post by Harassment101
 

If someones life gets "destroyed" from any of these calls then let me know



posted on May, 15 2009 @ 08:40 AM
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we are all big brother.

soon we'll be encouraged to report thought crimes, turning in our neighbors will be rewarded.

sound familiar?

have a doubleplusgood day, comrades.



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