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Originally posted by jfj123
reply to post by questioningall
Personally, I wouldn't mind a cigarette tax, alcohol tax, and a beer tax. Beyond that, I wouldn't support it because at that point, you could tax anything that might be even slightly unhealthy.
Soda- too much sugar
Diet soda-too much altered sugar.
gatorade-too much sugar even though it's great for replenishing electolytes.
Iced Tea-again too much sugar
coffee-too acidic which can cause stomach problems. Too much caffeine which can increase blood pressure.
Water in plastic bottles-chemicals leach from the plastic.
Where do you stop????
They need to draw a reasonable line and just STOP. Taxing everything is the equivalent of simply increasing the sales tax.
Originally posted by Seasick
Is it illegal to grow your own tobacco? I'm genuinely curious, I'm a non-smoker myself, but I vaguely recall something about growing tobacco for personal use either being legal or illegal in certian quantities. Hmmm, guess I need to do some reading.
All the other stuff people you can get around it. Ditch the pop habit and drink water. Ditch the chips and eat fruit. If you like to drink (like I do) plant a vine or three and learn grape cultivation and how to make wine. Buy grain and distill your own spirits. Homebrew your own hooch. If enough people start doing this kind of thing, the government will get the picture.
I'm all for this because it comes down to taxing wants instead of needs. No one needs cigarettes, chips, sodas whatever.
Originally posted by questioningall
Okay - I have a GREAT idea - they want money from taxes - they are looking under every nook and crany to tax all of us on products - here is some ideas:
1 - Tax all oil companies - an excessive income tax of net profits - when it is over 4 billion dollars in 3 months time of PROFIT!
2 - Tax the Banks on all the money they have taken - but have not loaned out and not kept the credit flowing!
3 - Tax the credit card companies on their excessive interest rates they are now charging the public!
Those are just a few ideas!
We are going to be taxed so heavily on everything we purchase - we will be giving the big corporations and govt. any excess dollars we have been able to keep previously!
Originally posted by questioningall
Wow, the tax of a pack of Cigarettes went up 60 cents on April 1st, but I guess that is not enough for the govt. - they are now considering a $2.00 tax on ONE pack of cigarettes, besides taxing "junk food"!
link to article:
If you make big bucks — or enjoy alcohol, cigarettes and Coke — the government might hit you up to pay for fixing the nation’s health care system.
On Tuesday, the Senate Finance Committee peeked into vending machines and liquor stores, company payrolls and health savings accounts, looking for a mix of tax increases and spending cuts as a way to pay for a health overhaul — which could cost more than $1.5 trillion over 10 years.
Experts thought the big debate might be public plan vs. no public plan. But that may well pale in comparison to the difficulty of settling on a way to finance health care reform.
“I wish there were a number of painless options,” Robert Greenstein, executive director of the Center on Budget and Policy Priorities, wrote in his prepared testimony. “There aren’t.”
There appeared to be a bubble of support among the experts for taxing bad behavior, including a $2 tax on a pack of cigarettes and a higher excise tax on alcohol.
But soda and sugary drinks found a friend Tuesday in Sen. Chuck Grassley (R-Iowa), the ranking member on the Finance Committee.
Unbelievable - the whole "no taxes on those making under $250,000 a year - sure no "FED income tax" - but what they are doing is going to be taxing everyone completely to where - no one will have any money left for themselves to save!