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You Tube Free Speech Purge Accelerates, Infowarrior Channel Banned

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posted on May, 13 2009 @ 08:34 PM
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I was thinking about this the other day, and how the Internet has given the public so much power.

Lets say here in Canada I was not happy with my Prime Minister, and a new bill that affected my children. And every family in Canada took their digital camera and took a high res photo of their kids, 2 Megs or so in size, and sent the PM a photo with a email how his bill was affecting their kids, please find attached a photo. Does anyone know how that would simply bring down the working of the government, period? I am NOT telling people to do that please, I am just making a point, I like the conservative government.

However for discussion, lets say a 2 Meg 8 bit photo has to go across the 7bit wide internet, so that is about 3.2 Megs of data, there and lets tack on 100K for the letter. So 3.3 Megs of data, and 8.9 million families.

So that is about 29 Terrabytes of data. Now, each one of those has to be stored? Why, because they are the government. And they need to respond to freedom of information requests for 5 years, which means every one of those people need to be responded to if they fired a FOIP of their own email, and the persons to touch it, and the email to deal with the email.

So lets be honest, they do not have the resources to respond to 8.9 million emails. The data administrator did not count on need 29 terrabytes of long term storage, so they must throw away the email. And that is the rub, legally they can't. The system breaks down, and the bill gets looked at.

Same here, if Alex Jones was that important, and every person on this syetem made a new account, with a disposable email, and choose a name that indicates to let Alex Jones back on, and uploads one video, well, YouTube is overrun. And then Google Stocks go down, and stuff like this. And then from financial pressure, they let Alex back on.

However just like in the first example, it is scales of information. You need people to act in mass to make a difference, and do so in a way that is not malicious, and just a normal way of acting. And even in that method, of a normal way of acting, there is a certain disruption that is not malicious.

So if the people on this system really wanted Alex Jones back, with 30,000 users, well simply he would be back on for good for 48 hours. Who would take on Google? Not me, I like google. Would I create a disposable account and help out? I might. Not sure. However regardless it is us who is in control, and they just do not know it yet. Right now their tactic is Conquor and divide. And 14 new accounts with Alex Jones videos is not enough. You need 10,000 new accounts. And I would not all load on a Alex Jones video, I would use say Alex Collier, or David Icke, but the name of the account would tell the story.




posted on May, 13 2009 @ 08:46 PM
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"Not everyone is being allowed to post and keep their videos on Youtube. So now people can post them here. Or google videos."
Sounds like what your saying is that if your videos get banned from YouTube then you can just turn right around and post them here. Well I've been watching this sight for sometime now and that is blatantly not true. Nobody is allowed to post anything they want on this forum.



posted on May, 13 2009 @ 10:48 PM
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ALEX JONES IS THE MAN!

He has the real scoop on the NWO and that precisely is why he is being shut down.

The man has the NWO by the huevos and , you know what? WE already know whats what. I dont know about the rest of you, but i listen faithfully, because i can see this man speaks the truth and for years has been studying and predicting the truth.

Its kinda too late. The NWO is HERE. Just as he said it would be. We know a lot thanks to Alex.

We wont forget what he's predicting, and we are wiser for it.

I loved tonights show
Let them take our guns, we will just get swords or bow and arrows.


Long live Alex! at least until they shut off the Internet.


This isnt about left or right, or Dems and Republicans anymore, this is US Vs. THEM.




posted on May, 13 2009 @ 10:55 PM
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Well if he's willing to give up his guns, then a sword or bow and arrow wont be much use to him will they. He doesn't have anyone by the huevo's, it's the other way around from what I can see. Apart from making a few videos, creating some paranoid head cases and doing alot of shouting, what exactly has he achieved? Hmm, nothing?



posted on May, 13 2009 @ 11:05 PM
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He's opened many peoples eyes across the world, not only him, but his thousands of guests who happen to be military, doctors, people within the goverment itself, etc, etc....
While he may scream and have a strange way about him, i believe he is a passionate, very intelligent man, surrounded by people in the know.

Thats good enough for me...oh and it just so happens, gee, what he says comes true.

I'm satisfied. Judge Napolitano, Chuck Norris and the list just grows and grows.

He also does not take sides, there are no sides to side with. He is a conservative, however, he is looking at the NWO, not Republican or Democrat, who, may i add, are both in it together anyway. I think that is pretty obvious.



posted on May, 13 2009 @ 11:16 PM
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Originally posted by arcnaver

Originally posted by Common Good
im with the rest of you guys on this, You Tube, nor any other corporation or govt entity should be able to pick and choose which information they think is suitable for people to see. It is not their place to be able to come in and say "ah we dont like this guy take him off". They have no right whatsoever to dosomething like that. As above posters have stated, all this is doing is ruining their cause, and helping his. Hes got my support.


Why not? Is it not a Company. Shouldnt A company be able to choose what products they sell or offer? If you dont agree, move on to Liveleak or some other user video service.
They, like any business should have the right to run their business into the ground if they want, by ticking off people like you.


Ticking off people like me?
First of all, who said I was "ticked off"
And another thing who are "People like me"?
Stop being such a tool. Can you handle that? probably not.

Like I said earlier, they are just hurting their own cause by doing this.
This is not a good way to run a company, and if they want to run it into the ground, fine let em. Nobody is stopping them, more sites like it will just pop right up. They f***** up, big time.



posted on May, 13 2009 @ 11:24 PM
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I don't support Alex Jones, or his fantasies. However, no matter how venomous and potentially dangerous his ravings can be when taken at face value by unstable minds - I don't support his censorship, if it is indeed a case of censorship. If it has been obtained, has there been an official statement by YouTube on the matter? If he violated YouTube's terms of service, then his suspension is warranted. For instance, recently, the James Randi Educational Foundation had their channel suspended for repeated claims of copyright violation. JREF worked with YouTube to deliberate and identify the source of the violation and rectified it.

Has AJ attempted to calmly reason and work with YouTube? I remain doubtful, if only because I know how well any form of suspension would play perfectly into the drama he's crafting. This could very well be an issue of false flagging campaigns, yet I couldn't see him telling his audience that it was all a simple misunderstanding.



posted on May, 13 2009 @ 11:31 PM
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Alex Jones is not a diplomat, nor with the government, and his subject matter itself will not get him an audience with the owners of You Tube to negotiate.

The government itself monitors the Internet and its contents, and if they say Alex and his junk goes, it does. Thats it. It goes because its intimidating someone/s, if it werent, if it was nonsense, it would be passed off as some wild man who wants attention and is making up stuff.



posted on May, 14 2009 @ 12:01 AM
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I really am tired of hearing this continual erosion, massive control, complete censorship. Yet, everyone is defeatist about it. If the government decides it goes, it goes! What?


The big question is, what are we, the people, going to do about it? I've been asking this since the Gulf Wars, when the Kurdish children starved to death right in front of the cameras eyes, when they all left seeking assylum. It floored me.
I was ready at a pins notice to storm the government in a large crowd and I wouldn't have backed down if they were shooting at me. So what? Can't live in this world the way it is. Can't let them win! So lets get a move on! Either our fingers do the walking, or our feet do! And we don't sit back down until things change.



posted on May, 14 2009 @ 12:08 AM
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YouTube isn't stupid. You know about recent talk about restricting the internet by the current Obama Administration. YouTube doesn't gain anything from this. They are simply "purging" so called "hate speech" against our government, in the hopes the Government will change its mind.

I wouldn't be surprised to see YouTube and Google stock to start plummeting. No worries though, I'm sure Obama will bail them out all the while telling us how important it is to protect free speech. After all, aren't Google and YouTube "too big to fail"?

People need to wake up and take this country back from the Powers That Be.



posted on May, 14 2009 @ 12:11 AM
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While i totally agree with you, i dont see anyone out with torches marching towards DC, i dont know why people are letting all this happen, but they are. We are a pathetic society


Since time began people wanted things a certain way, and they would fight to the death to have what they wanted.

Yet look at us! We are all sitting around waiting..... for what? The end?

This is why is listen to Alex Jones, because the man has taken it upon himself to do or die. Thats remarkable!



posted on May, 14 2009 @ 12:14 AM
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Originally posted by Lasheic
I don't support Alex Jones, or his fantasies. However, no matter how venomous and potentially dangerous his ravings can be when taken at face value by unstable minds - I don't support his censorship, if it is indeed a case of censorship. If it has been obtained, has there been an official statement by YouTube on the matter? If he violated YouTube's terms of service, then his suspension is warranted. For instance, recently, the James Randi Educational Foundation had their channel suspended for repeated claims of copyright violation. JREF worked with YouTube to deliberate and identify the source of the violation and rectified it.

Has AJ attempted to calmly reason and work with YouTube? I remain doubtful, if only because I know how well any form of suspension would play perfectly into the drama he's crafting. This could very well be an issue of false flagging campaigns, yet I couldn't see him telling his audience that it was all a simple misunderstanding.


i agree that this is a publicity stunt. the free speech amendment has nothing to do with a corporation. it is to prevent the govt from taking it away from citizens.

youtube is free so they can do whatever they want to do with your account. there is no guarantee implied and if you read the agreement you have no rights.

in fact if you ever read your cable company or cell phone company contract, you pretty much have no rights. take it or leave it, it's a private corporation. if you want to keep your rights then you won't buy/use their product. simple.

so if mr AJ wants his blabber broadcast then he'll have to shell out the money for a website and bandwidth. as long as he does not break any laws nobody will take down a site that he's paying for. simple.



posted on May, 14 2009 @ 12:17 AM
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Originally posted by dgtempe
reply to post by mystiq
 

While i totally agree with you, i dont see anyone out with torches marching towards DC, i dont know why people are letting all this happen, but they are. We are a pathetic society


Since time began people wanted things a certain way, and they would fight to the death to have what they wanted.

Yet look at us! We are all sitting around waiting..... for what? The end?

This is why is listen to Alex Jones, because the man has taken it upon himself to do or die. Thats remarkable!


i think google/youtube is based in california... what's the DC govt got to do with a private corporation? google was not bailed out as far as i know and the govt can't replace their leadership because they don't own any shares.

where's the outrage against the govt coming from?? there is no constitutional right to youtube access! you're not paying taxes to subsidize youtube. or are you?



posted on May, 14 2009 @ 12:32 AM
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As much as i hate to say this google can do whatever they want on it's private servers, just like ATS and other sites can censor/delete any info we post.
Alex Jones show is making money by using google servers and they won't even accept one google ad on their youtube channel.

I don't agree with google censoring channels or locking them for bs reasons but what can we do other then wait for a new site to become popular and hope they don't do the same thing.



posted on May, 14 2009 @ 12:35 AM
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You missed the point.

Go back and read the whole thread.
The government calls the shots with ;the Internet and the media in general.
His stuff was removed because its information they dont want us to have.
The purging of Free Speech is here



posted on May, 14 2009 @ 12:36 AM
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Originally posted by dgtempe
You missed the point.

Go back and read the whole thread.
The government calls the shots with ;the Internet and the media in general.
His stuff was removed because its information they dont want us to have.
The purging of Free Speech is her.


Hey dg, is there something I'm missing here?
Did the government take down Infowars or any other Alex Jones site?



posted on May, 14 2009 @ 12:47 AM
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I Ithink so.

I really believe that too much information has been put out on that show so that the sp00ks who monitor all of us, have made some desicions to do away with some very incriminating stuff, such as the AJ show.

This is just my opinion, of course, and its a very possible one.

Now, who are the sp00ks? They're government agencies who we know are watching.

It may sound weird, but this is a conspiracy site.




posted on May, 14 2009 @ 12:48 AM
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Well, they're owned by Google what do you expect?



posted on May, 14 2009 @ 01:12 AM
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Google is well known for working for the gov.

It all fits



posted on May, 14 2009 @ 01:13 AM
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If youtube is removing this account, then they need to start removing the other thousands of accounts that deal with religion and politics. There are some blatantly false videos that promote religious views and other nonsense. If that stuff is allowed, then they HAVE to allow Jones. At least he has some evidence to back up what he says.



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