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Europe calls for rules on RFID chips

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posted on May, 12 2009 @ 09:56 PM
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The European Commission has put out a series of recommendations to protect European citizens from the privacy risks associated with RFID chips.


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This is disturbing. After reading this article, it appears the the government is just fine with chipping humans so long as privacy measures are in place. Anyone else see anything wrong with that picture? Humans should not have RFID chips in the first place! The more i hear on this issue, the more worried i get.


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posted on May, 12 2009 @ 09:59 PM
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Reding noted that the success of the RFID industry was dependent on acceptance from consumers - something that would only happen if they were happy with the privacy protections offered.


I sincerely hope people aren't that blind. No matter how protected many privacy protection policies they put in place, i will NOT take an RFID chip.



posted on May, 12 2009 @ 10:00 PM
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duplicate. sorry.


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posted on May, 12 2009 @ 10:09 PM
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RFID has to be the worst idea I have ever heard. How can people seriously believe that their privacy will be maintained? There are many things that started off with privacy until someone figured how to bypass the security. And if the one implanting you is the one invading your privacy then the perverbial pooch is screwed! The only chip i'll ever have is the one on my shoulder.

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posted on May, 12 2009 @ 10:15 PM
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I got a new ATM bank card in the mail unsolicited today -- called the Bank of Montreal CHIP card.

It is not active until I use it (expires in 60 days if I don't use) with the same PIN i have now for my old card that works just fine.

The brochure lists features..wowzer, features I already have with my own card lol.

I think I will cut it up and stick to my old card for as long as it works. They already know what bank machines I use so no need for me to carry around that lil antenae with me everywhere on the front of the card.

Excellent info on all the everyday stuff that has RFID chips in em...
RFID: Tracking Everything Part 1 With Katherine Albrecht
www.youtube.com...



posted on May, 12 2009 @ 10:27 PM
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And if the one implanting you is the one invading your privacy then the perverbial pooch is screwed!

Exactly. Beside the fact that chipping human beings is just plain wrong, this is another main concern: what is the government going to do with the info they are "protecting?"



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Cool video, thanks for the link. I wouldn't accept that card either. People who are looking to consolidate that huge an amount of information on a personalized chip are not your friend.


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posted on May, 12 2009 @ 10:34 PM
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You're very welcome The Associate, her lecture is a must-see, be sure to see all parts.

She is awesome..and scary. Imagine, chips in everyday products like clothing (antenae that does not wash out of , sewn in and on shaving products etc)

Truly amazing what things they would do under the guise of 'product marketting research' huh?



posted on May, 12 2009 @ 10:53 PM
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I think I will cut it up and stick to my old card for as long as it works.

When you do you should disect it and look for the chip (they can be very small) and report back what you find.



posted on May, 12 2009 @ 10:57 PM
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I smell the fuse burning, I wonder how long it is.



posted on May, 12 2009 @ 11:00 PM
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When you do you should disect it and look for the chip (they can be very small) and report back what you find.


I'd be interested to hear about that, myself. Probably won't be able to get any sort of real info without an expert analysis, but it would be cool to see what one looks like. Or, just make sure you destroy the damn thing. Who knows what might happen if it falls into the wrong hands.


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posted on May, 12 2009 @ 11:01 PM
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Here is what the mark of the beast looks like.

MC9090-G RFID Handheld Mobile Computer can reach where most cant go.



RFID in both hands






posted on May, 12 2009 @ 11:02 PM
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It is the antenae, the shiney square metalic stuff that looks like a maze..easy to see. That is the chip. Looks the same as the 1/4 inch square on a credit card.

If you see Katherine's explaination in the above video on youtube, it describes how they can put these antenae in anything you buy.

It is right in plain view usually.

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posted on May, 12 2009 @ 11:03 PM
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This is how it begins, and we should alway pay close attention to Europe because what you see them do America will try a year or so later.

They will convince people its harmless, they will let you take it voluntarily, then they will start all sorts of neat bonuses that you only get with the chip. And thats when the noose will tighten. Before you know it there will be common things that you need a chip for. Look at what has happened to the checkbook in America over the last decade, It would get that way with the chip, you will see signs change from "chip payments accepted here" to "payment by chip only." Again it comes down to time they are willing to wait for their plans to develop.

I'm with you No chips in these hands. Ever



posted on May, 12 2009 @ 11:08 PM
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We so need to remember our autonomy.

The climate has become so clear -
That there are those who believe they are "in charge"
and there are those who "do what they are told" by those "in charge".

Again we are born to the earth - not to a group of controlling, power hungry, greedy people who believe they have the right to track - chip and GPS us -

Break down this thinking in everyone you know.
We are not possessions -
We are single human entities - who belong to no one - but ourselves.
And - we are the only ones who have the right to dictate what our lives should be.



posted on May, 12 2009 @ 11:20 PM
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Originally posted by suzque66
I got a new ATM bank card in the mail unsolicited today -- called the Bank of Montreal CHIP card.

It is not active until I use it (expires in 60 days if I don't use) with the same PIN i have now for my old card that works just fine.

The brochure lists features..wowzer, features I already have with my own card lol.

I think I will cut it up and stick to my old card for as long as it works. They already know what bank machines I use so no need for me to carry around that lil antenae with me everywhere on the front of the card.

Excellent info on all the everyday stuff that has RFID chips in em...
RFID: Tracking Everything Part 1 With Katherine Albrecht

Can you PLEASE cut it up and send it back to them? Send them a message for all of us..
Thanks
www.youtube.com...



posted on May, 12 2009 @ 11:21 PM
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Freaky stuff, wonderworld! Thanks for the pics. I too believe this is the mark of the beast as foretold by the Book of Revelation. It's coming, all we can do is be prepared to tell them where they can stick their chip.


reply to post by AlienChaser
 

That is the scenario that is being played out. I wonder if it's too early to start preparing physically? Setting up a means to trade goods and services without having to take the chip, etc. We will need a system to circumvent this eventually because the only way i (and most everyone i know) going to be chipped is posthumously.


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That there are those who believe they are "in charge" and there are those who "do what they are told" by those "in charge".

You're right about that and people do need to remember it, but i'm not counting on them to do so. It's the people who do what they are told that will decide our fate for us. They will allow laws to be passed requiring this. They so believe that their leaders have their best interest in mind, that they will deliver the rest of us to their leaders.

Thank you all for the replies, posts starred.


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posted on May, 12 2009 @ 11:40 PM
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Does anyone else (and I hope I am not derailing thread) get nasty smirks or looks when declining to join Air Miles or any other info-grabbing technique for 'discounts' at a store? They push these 'cards' on you that give you a discount later on (after so many purchases) but they require you fill in a form with name and address etc.

I never get them and usually the are quite upset that I don't want to even fill out an application. For cripes sakes they are just minimum wage cashiers (no offense) what do they care if I have a card or not? Maybe they get commission???

The last time I declined (at M&M Meat Shops, here in Canada) she asked 'whyyyyy not???' . I said because I don't give info, I am just here to buy some burgers lol. 'she said..we don't do anything with your information, it is confidential.' LOL I said..'NOTHING is confidential or private' she looked at me stunned like she has no clue of what really goes on. I looked like a nutbar to her yet she didn't know why.

Those cards also have the metalic RFID chips in them, go figure.



posted on May, 12 2009 @ 11:45 PM
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yet she didn't know why.


That's why you get the looks, man. They're sheep. They don't realize what the people who seek this information are really up to. When they come across somebody who's wise to the scheme, it simply astonishes them because they can't fathom why you wouldn't give out your info. You ain't the nutbar, they are.


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posted on May, 12 2009 @ 11:53 PM
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That's why you get the looks, man. They're sheep. They don't realize what the people who seek this information are really up to. When they come across somebody who's wise to the scheme, it simply astonishes them because they can't fathom why you wouldn't give out your info. You ain't the nutbar, they are.


lol, yes, I could see that. Her puzzled face. That older lady was not as rude as others have been. She just had no idea how to react to my comment that 'nothing is private'. It was over her head.

I wouldn't even attempt to explain to that type of person -- or anyone who doesn't seem to question 'other' situations of govt or news etc....it is a moot point, they will NEVER get it.

Besides, it isn't 'her' generation or mine she wants..it is our next and beyond. These people who live within the 'unknown' are just the unknowing preppers (if life were one big porno, these people are the fluffers lol) for the future generation's chaos. Sometimes ignorance IS bliss I suppose. *sighs

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posted on May, 13 2009 @ 08:54 AM
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Everyone in the western world of today carries around a cellular phone and a banking/kreditcard.

No one´s gonna operate an RFID chip into you since you´re always carrying it around anyway! so what´s the point?




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