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Originally posted by joinats
Originally posted by Ryanp5555
Even if we could, they would just deny deny deny. At this point it would be too late and admitting to the truth of the footage would go against the gov't's plan at this point. Plus, apparently the guy whose video it was has different alias'
Can't someone beat him up, torture him in water tank, rape him, threaten his family, what can he deny? keep his mouth shut?
Listen, if this Alien exist, IT IS A SERIOUS MATTER TO THIS WHOLE WORLD!! We want to pay everything for that!
Give him a death sentence, break his nose and tooth. Do every which way like American armies did to other soldiers.
Can't we do that? Isn't it better to torture the interviewer than risking 7 billion lives of this earth? Everybody will agree with me.
DRAG HIM OUT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! nobody will drag him out right? because it is bull#!
[edit on 13-5-2009 by joinats]
Originally posted by Dorgeles
This article was published in the serious newspaper "Nice-Matin", in southern France (main newspaper in Nice, Monte Carlo, Marseille, etc): www.coldevence.net...
also here: www.nicematin.com...
The article came out two days ago and the consensus is that this UFO was the real deal (analysis of local UFO fans and aviation specialists). A quick translation is provided below:
What is hidding behind the “Medusa” of the Col de Vence.
(Nice-Matin article of May 11th 2009. Nice-Matin is the main newspaper of south eastern France.)
The photo taken by Julien on February 17th at “la Colle des Pouis”, at the Col de Vence. The object somehow looks like a jellyfish, hence the surname “medusa”.
On the 17th of February, something strange occurred in the sky at Col de Vence, a site that has been famous for a very long time for its “strange events”. A strange phenomenon was observed, of which we are publishing the photo today. Why show the photo so “late”?
Because since February, the document has been analyzed in depth by a group of observers called: “The invisibles of the Col de Vence”, who are fascinated by “extraordinary manifestations” of the sky of the Col de Vence, but who also possess a critical mind and thorough scientific knowledge. Hoaxes and falsifications are abundant in this domain…
Let’s say that for the moment, the picture is considered authentic… And if it is a hoax, it has not been demonstrated for the moment.
In the afternoon, while looking for fossils.
It is Julien, 26 years old, who met the “medusa”. On the afternoon of tuesday February 17th, went for a walk at the Saint Barnabe plateau, looking for fossils. Julien doesn’t live in the region. He was only here for the week end before going back to Paris.
The weather is clear, with no clouds, except cumulus’s in the distance. There is no wind.
The event occurs at 4:36pm at the north side of the plateau, near the southern end of the “Colle des Pouis”. “A black shape above the skyline” attracts Juliens eye. He see’s “a dark object that seems to be floating, while oscillating vertically with an amplitude” he estimates of “a dozen meters”. There is no noise.
According to the “analysts”, it is neither an airplane, or a parachute, or a balloon.
“The object has the shape of a small, dark colored dome”, but not as dark, supposedly, as it looks like on the picture. Julien had time to take a photo with his camera…
The account goes on: “After I took the picture, the did one last oscilation as it went up into the air at an incredible speed”. Julian says: “at more then 1000 kph, like when thunder strikes.” The shape kept on ascending until Julian lost site of it.
The theory of a military parachute.
All this lasted approximately 20 seconds. Julien goes on to say that he was a bit frightened, and that he left the area. Via the Internet, the young man then got in touch with “the Invisibles of the Col de Vence” and told them about his observation.
Conclusion? The “object” size has been estimated to be from 4 to 10 meters and for the moment “it is difficult to link it to anything known by humanity: its behavior doesn’t correspond to that of an airplane, kite, helium balloon or parachute…”
None the less, an aviation specialist has estimated that there is something similar: a military parachute. But how to explain the rapid oscillations and the lightning ascension until disappearing from site. Anyhow, Julian should have seen a man under the parachute, and that was not the case.
In the end, all the hypothesis’s of known aircraft have been eliminated. Searches were made in the area where the object was flying, but no traces were discovered.
That is the point we are at so far concerning Col de Vence…
Sylvie Beal
Originally posted by Ryanp5555
reply to post by P1DrummerBoy
With that being said, do you think its plausible that the government would sit idly by as a television station began to produce a documentary about aliens which featured highly sensitive material that belonged to them, and was basically done by one of their employees? Or do you think at that point there would have been some preventative measures taken?
Originally posted by scraze
Originally posted by Fromabove
[..]
The quality is good and the gestures the alien makes while trying to communicate with his human captors is amazing. There is second by second interaction.
Also I did a frame by frame study and found many unique expressions on the face of the alien, plus studied the muscle group action of head to body, arm and chest etc. and this was simply amazing. Then I compared what I studied to that of others who did a even better job than me.
[..]
But in the end, no one who is a chop shop animation artist can make a video like that. Even Hollywood would have a hard time doing it. So if you want a video that cries truth, this is it. View it, study it, and by all means do a frame by frame and you'll see for yourself.
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I'm.. I'm so terribly sorry - but I'm afraid you're judging animation artists the wrong way.
Instead of trying to convince you with words, here is an animation, made by 1 (one) person in a relatively short time.
Liam Kemp's animation test: www.youtube.com...
Notice how there is even more detail in facial expression and body animation than in the 'captive alien' video. Nothing in this video was captured - the animator did all this by hand, by himself. No big company, no funding, no huge amount of time.. it's an animation test.
This has taught me one very important thing: it's impossible to say whether something is CGI or not, based on the argument "it looks too real".. In fact, when it looks extra lifelike or vibrant, I find myself suspecting it of CGI - just like every set of shiny white teeth on TV is a bit more yellow in real life (xkcd.com...). Ok, I stretched it a bit too far there, let me return to my point:
The CGI animation I linked to above, seems far more real to me than the "captive alien" footage.
P.S. I do a tiny bit of CGI, and have to admit that while the model, lighting and scene (chair..) seem very easy to replicate, the animation would have taken some hours. Maybe a complete day.
P.S. #2 .. Can't believe I looked over this. Have you checked out the URL that's displayed in the first frames of the captive alien video? Here it is: www.mundogump.com.br... . I can't read the language, but I do understand this line at the bottom: "ESTA É UMA OBRA FICCIONAL". It means: "This is a fictional work". I'm not sure who the author is, but he has made more captive alien CGI's (see www.youtube.com... ). The author doesn't seem to care about the fuss on YouTube, as he keeps writing in portuguese on his site.. Possibly he's enjoying it. I'm sorry.[edit on 13-5-2009 by scraze]
Originally posted by Dark Jester
Well Jesus hasn't been proven, but your mood says you still think he rocks. You have to understand that those aliens are far more advanced so i think they are capable of avoiding our cameras. What do you expect? For an alien to show up on camera with an " I Love NY" shirt and some glasses?
Originally posted by Fromabove
The best one I have seen yet is "The Captive Alien" posted on Youtube. I have studied this video in every way I can think of. The quality is good and the gesture
Originally posted by Ryanp5555
Originally posted by Diplomat
reply to post by Ryanp5555
Ok, I get you. It's impossible for someone to leak a highly secretive video from a government installation. I disagree.
I'm sure it can be done, but you would only have a minimal window. You wouldn't have time to shoot a friggin hour+ documentary, edit it, and then air it.
Originally posted by Reading
Originally posted by Ryanp5555
Originally posted by Diplomat
reply to post by Ryanp5555
Ok, I get you. It's impossible for someone to leak a highly secretive video from a government installation. I disagree.
I'm sure it can be done, but you would only have a minimal window. You wouldn't have time to shoot a friggin hour+ documentary, edit it, and then air it.
He obviously didnt copy the tape and make the documentary on the spot your not seriously suggesting that are you?
And just because it is on youtube does'nt mean sqaut it was released way earlier,THEN he tried to spread it , the original was on tape?
So your trying to debunk it by saying that he wouldnt have time to make a documentary and because it is on youtube it must be fake?
Originally posted by Reading
reply to post by Ryanp5555
Things do get leaked as we have seen countless times before not even concerning UFO'S and the like, whistleblowers do actually exist and sometimes they DO get info out whether people choose to believe them is another story of course.
Their might be lots of factors as to why the medical staff might not have acted in the way that people would expect them too, firstly because it is not a human they are working it on it is alien (allegedly)
Maybe the chair and the table are fixed and they couldnt physicly get in between the two?
As stated before the reason it is all in darkness is for the comfort of the EBE, as they live in dark conditions as much in the same way as diferent species on this planet in low light conditions evolve big eyes to take in as much light as possible
The only thing strange about that is that if the alien prefers low-light then why rush in and shine a bright light right in its eyes?
Im on the fence im not gonna argue one sided and leave that part out i know it sounds like im trying to justify this not being a hoax but believe me im not a gullible typical alien believer that will swallow everything i see
Originally posted by Ryanp5555
Originally posted by Reading
reply to post by Ryanp5555
Things do get leaked as we have seen countless times before not even concerning UFO'S and the like, whistleblowers do actually exist and sometimes they DO get info out whether people choose to believe them is another story of course.
Their might be lots of factors as to why the medical staff might not have acted in the way that people would expect them too, firstly because it is not a human they are working it on it is alien (allegedly)
Maybe the chair and the table are fixed and they couldnt physicly get in between the two?
As stated before the reason it is all in darkness is for the comfort of the EBE, as they live in dark conditions as much in the same way as diferent species on this planet in low light conditions evolve big eyes to take in as much light as possible
The only thing strange about that is that if the alien prefers low-light then why rush in and shine a bright light right in its eyes?
Im on the fence im not gonna argue one sided and leave that part out i know it sounds like im trying to justify this not being a hoax but believe me im not a gullible typical alien believer that will swallow everything i see
I just think that when you are dealing with 38 levels above top secret, there would be a little more care by the government in regards to protection of this video. While we have seen things get leaked before, the question I ask you is have we ever seen something that is "38 levels above top secret" get leaked? I doubt it.