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Topic started on 12-5-2009 @ 01:26 PM by count66


reply posted on 12-5-2009 @ 01:30 PM by Cloudsinthesky
Originally posted by larphillips
Originally posted by captaintrippy
Swine Flu May Be Human Error, Scientist Says; WHO Probles Claim


Adrian Gibbs, 75, who collaborated on research that led to the development of Roche Holding AG’s Tamiflu drug, said in an interview today that he intends to publish a report suggesting the new strain may have accidentally evolved in eggs scientists use to grow viruses and drugmakers use to make vaccines. Gibbs said that he came to his conclusion as part of an effort to trace the virus’s origins by analyzing its genetic blueprint.


Wow... that's a pretty bold public statement to make. How soon until this guy is whacked and/or discredited?


www.abovetopsecret.com...

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reply posted on 12-5-2009 @ 01:35 PM by count66
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I actually reckon that given his connection to the development of Tamiflu etc he knows a who lot more then he has put in his report.

I also reckon that he actually wants the truth to get out there and given his current age, 75, I don't think he is too bothered about getting whacked anymore.



reply posted on 12-5-2009 @ 02:32 PM by OmegaPoint
Very very interesting, and the connection to Tamiflu, the neuroinsanity drug which does little or nothing for the flu, but which whacks you spiritually, compliments of Donald Rumsfeld and pals..

This rings true. That is one very couragious man to produce that report.

Now if only we can get the US Gov't to DUMP all of its reserves of Tamiflu.

I tell you folks, they want to get into position to inject everyone, and I'm pretty sure the purpose involves killing something deep within us, who's evolution represents the PTB's greatest terror. That's my theory and I'm sticking with it. It would be interesting to study the effects of Tamiflu on the pineal gland..

One wonders what the explanation will be for how it ended up in Mexico..?

You know what's interesting, is how prescient we "CT'ers" can be sometimes. This thing just felt WRONG almost from the very start, and my intuition said "inside job" when the information about it's genetic makeup came out, along with the unrelenting media hype, which someone in power has ordered stopped.

What these dark evil people like Rumsfeld and Cheney and others need to learn, is that they do not serve the world, and would be best to just die and go away, like the H1N1 virus. The world has had quite ENOUGH of their killer nonsense, and we can smell it a mile away when it starts up.
In fact, the more they screw around like this, the more people they awaken, and the faster the tsunami of mass conscious awareness approaches their machivelian machinations.

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reply posted on 13-5-2009 @ 01:14 AM by Studious
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Originally posted by flightsuit
Originally posted by OmegaPoint I'm pretty sure the purpose involves killing something deep within us, who's evolution represents the PTB's greatest terror.


What is "the PTB?"


"The PTB" also often abbreviated "TPTB" means "The powers that be."

Wikipedia Article on the Phrase



Unrelated to the above:
I had a bad feeling this was bio engineered. Now what excuse will they come up with about how it escaped in Mexico.

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reply posted on 13-5-2009 @ 01:18 AM by OmegaPoint
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PTB (powers that be). I believe that their greatest terror is for the mass man to come into full awareness of his power, when "we" become the power that be, and all these psy-ops (psychological operations) have one thing in common, the use of fear as a tool to supress conscious awareness and increase dependancy.

I think a good idea would be to have just ONE DAY when everyone aborts all forms of mainstream media and advertising, starting by turning OFF the TV - just for one day. That would be a start in the right direction.

What would be a good name for that kind of initiative and who could kickstart that and get the butterfly effect going on it..? With the Internet, such movements CAN be started, and unleashed against the P T B. We need to let them know who's in control and who has the real power.


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reply posted on 13-5-2009 @ 01:37 AM by Eye of Horus
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Would be nice except for two things. First thing is only a few have woken up from TPTB program, having there eyes opened. Secound thing would be peoples apathy. Youd have to figure out a way to keep the masses gunho for more than 1 week. If you lost the momentum it would fail after the 1 week period. The Program runs through everything. Apathy is the #1 way TPTB keep the sheeple in line. But good luck to your idea. Sad but I give it 1 in 3 of working. Since not many have woken up yet. Bummer.

And I'm no teacher, just another wander on the path.




reply posted on 13-5-2009 @ 01:44 AM by Cyberbian
reply to post by count66



Here is an article which goes into more detail. He is saying that there are both too many mutations and some specifically related to growing in eggs.

WHO is taking him seriously. He must have some reputation, because the flame war is on in the scientific circles.

One thing I can tell you is that the argument that he should have waited for peer review is bogus. If who would change their recommended reaction based on the information and it's correctness. Then they needed to know now, not if and when some committee got through with the report. Peoples lives are on the line, lots of them.

WHO, flu experts looking into claim H1N1 swine flu evolved in lab, not nature


reply posted on 13-5-2009 @ 01:56 AM by OmegaPoint
reply to post by Cyberbian



Very very interesting, and the strange choice of words in the debate as well. Strange..

And I like your sig, but the pigs aren't singing now are they?

Another odd factor, is the sudden and near complete SILENCE about it in the MSM. One day, we're told one third of the whole global population is likely to get it, the next NOTHING, and still nothing, very strange that also.

It is good the degree to which every action and reaction is now under close scruntiny, thanks in no small part to the Internet.

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