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Religious diversity?

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posted on May, 12 2009 @ 07:22 AM
Ok, so I have read alot of posts on here arguing this point and that point for different religions and views and I just felt like I needed to bring my thoughts out and see if anyone else agrees with me.

Are all religions a conspiracy? Alot of people here seem to think so. I read everyday another post of someone saying " the only reason you beleive is cause TPTB say you have to" Or something similar but...What if the real conspiracy is..... US!

That's right... us.... humans. What if we all got it all wrong? Perhaps there is some truth to ALL the religions out there but because of shoddy record keeping in the past and many civilizations where literacy was not at the forefront of everyones "to do" list maybe... just maybe EVERY RELIGION IN THE WORLD has got it just a little wrong......Wouldn't that be something? Here we are a whole race fighting and fighting over what is the right way... the only way and ALL of us are wrong....

I mean... isn't it funny how almost every religion on earth ties into each other in some way? IE: old pagan rituals and holy days tied into various "catholic" holidays.....or how prophets are used to convey gods message in almost every religion.

Maybe they are all wrong... but then again.. that means that with so many similarities all of them have got to have some things right.... right?

I think TPTB know this.... and don't want us to know cause can you imagine if all the religions on earth actually got together and agreed that they were all wrong and began to search for the real truth... united as one? OH NO!!! there might be something like... peace... and we know those in power... don't want that.

I'm not sure what response if any I'll get with this rambling post but its just something thats been on my mind for awhile so I thought I would throw it out there and see if anyone thinks like me.. and also to see what other views this might bring up in peoples minds....

I really don't post much here I'm more of a reader so please be gentle with me....

posted on May, 12 2009 @ 07:42 AM
There is a kernel of truth in what you write which deserves recognition. There is a hunger for the divine within the human species one that is as definitive as the other hungers and desires.

Some of the archaeological discoveries of the earliest modern humans (70,000+ years ago) show burial practices which suggest a spiritual awareness of an afterlife. Only recently have some claimed that religion is something humanity needs to grow out of. A very dangerous, but fortunately ultimately futile, attempt to deny an essential aspect of humanity and reality.

The similarities between religions might be used to abstract the hidden truths of reality but instead people yammer on about cultures stealing from other cultures to suppress etc. etc. A strange practise when people will happily abstract from the phenomenon of generational species change the hidden truth of evolution.

TPTB do certainly use religion often as a means of furthering their own political/material ambitions but that does not mean what they use is itself a manipulation. It's a case of "religion doesn't kill: people do."

Of course, there does need to be a choice then: of them all which one has it closest to the truth? I'll go with Catholicism - and you can thank me later for mentioning that and ensuring your thread gets a bit more attention as the following posts will abound with criticisms of the modern world's most popular bogey man.

posted on May, 12 2009 @ 08:11 AM
ALL religions restrict us from being the best that we can be as a species, they are there to exert control and fill a void that most people seem to have.

posted on May, 12 2009 @ 08:59 AM

Originally posted by spitefulgod
ALL religions restrict us from being the best that we can be as a species, they are there to exert control and fill a void that most people seem to have.

ok but... who put them "there" who put them in the mind of say.. indigineous peoples? cause alot of the native peoples of different areas have religious beliefs that still tie in with "christianity" a bit too....

posted on May, 12 2009 @ 09:16 AM

Originally posted by spitefulgod
ALL religions restrict us from being the best that we can be as a species, they are there to exert control and fill a void that most people seem to have.

That is your perception based on your experience and it is a sad reflection of whatever religion or church you have been exposed to. Please be aware that all need not be lumped into the same category.

While I did have an experience with a cultish/restrictive religion when I was younger I realized that I could not judge all based on that experience.

I sometimes wonder what kind (denomination etc.) of churches people have attended that cause them to have this perception. Just a side note even some churches within denominations can be different. Not all pastors and churches are the same.

I feel so blessed that I attend such a positive forward thinking church that really encourages people to be the best that they can be and contribute in a positive way to the world and community around them. Please be careful of using the word "ALL" . I don't think it applies here. As far as "void" I think most of us humans are social creatures and enjoy the relationships that we find in like minded people when we attend a church or belong to a religion of our choice.

Until Later,
Millionaire Mommy

posted on May, 12 2009 @ 01:41 PM
reply to post by millionairemommy

Bull my parents are moderate catholics and go whenever they feel like it, I know jews, muslims, JWs and although in some cases living by the rule does make for a better person and this is the good side of religion in my opinion its the only good part, you can get this feeling from general social interaction and group affiliation. The bad side of religion is that it makes you feel guilty it imposes rules, we have too many rules in this world, we all have a instinctive knowledge of what's right and wrong and the universe is here for a reason. Let's take the journey together not separated by religion, I know this is idealogical and that life is never that easy and that people need to be part of a group, but it can be done a better way.

posted on May, 12 2009 @ 01:47 PM
As far as religion goes, it's not all bad.

Religion itself is a great idea. Take a story and present to a group of people. Within the story is a set of morals an values that the person who wrote it would like to convey.

If the stories are taken as they are...stories, but the morals and values are followed and updated as the society does, then religion is a wonderful thing.

Organized religion however, is the problem. These static belief systems that stem from thousands of years of bloodshed, deceipt and rewritten scriptures to fit whoever is in power at the time.

Myself, I am not a religious person, I am a Spiritual Agnostic if that makes any sense. The current world religions, if practiced in the way shown and expected, are a detriment to the human experience. They force you to be afraid of un-seen holy forces which have the power to make or destroy you.

I am sure our creator, whoever, or whatever it is, does not feel this way about the creations it has made. That is only my opinion however.

Anybody has the right to practice and preach their own religion, so long as they stop when it is infringing upon the rights of others.

Are all religions a conspiracy? In truth yes. Everything we are bombarded with on a daily basis has been twisted and fabricated to give it a certain feel and to convey a certain message.

Everything is a small truth, wrapped in a giant lie. I am sure that the various religious texts, if in their original form would reveal some amazing details about our past that we may never know now because of the hunger for wealth and power.

I don't think religion will ever leave, not unless the very thing we fight about makes itself known and gives us all the answer. And if that happened, what would be the point of this glorious journey?


[edit on 5/12/2009 by tothetenthpower]

posted on May, 12 2009 @ 02:25 PM
Everyone is free to believe what they want for the time being. The UN's plan of a one world religion seems to be going full force and on schedule. However that is very bothersome to me, and everyone who feels the need to practice a religion or nothing at all. I'm not in any religion, I simply follow the teachings of Yeshua and the Old Testament. Or in other words Old and New Testaments with my own conclusion and no dogma to intervene. Then I can apply it to what is going on in other aspects of life without being ridiculed as a devil worshiper for believing in End Times events. I was called a devil worshiper for explaining eschatology. Then again that person has this notion we're not supposed to predict anything so it might have just been her. Then atheists call me a loon when I apply my beliefs to their conspiracy theories...but really we're all just here to be free to choose. Free will is the greatest thing we have. We can choose.

posted on May, 12 2009 @ 02:44 PM
If you feel I am trying to push my beliefs on you I will deeply apologize. I'm just stating my opinion on the matter, not convert anyone.

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