200,000 year old human hair found in dung, page 2

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reply posted on 12-5-2009 @ 10:24 AM by one_man24

reply to post by Gawdzilla

That is an opinion. And that is also what it comes down to. What I believe, and put my faith in, may not work for you, or even make sense to you. But it both works and makes sense to, and for, me.

reply posted on 12-5-2009 @ 10:34 AM by deltaalphanovember

reply to post by one_man24

The following is satire:

In the beginning God made man, and God saw it was good. God then made hyena and He saw it was good.
Hyena ate man and God punished hyena to be forever ridiculed in Walt Disney movies.
Man saw it was good.

Sorry, I just find the fact that some human from 200 000 years ago ended up being hyena food as being particularly amusing. I wonder if his last thought was: "someday they'll find my hair and my family will find peace in knowing what happened to me, knowing I didn't just abandon them for the hot blonde Neanderthal in the next valley".

reply posted on 12-5-2009 @ 10:35 AM by Gawdzilla

Originally posted by one_man24
reply to post by Gawdzilla

That is an opinion. And that is also what it comes down to. What I believe, and put my faith in, may not work for you, or even make sense to you. But it both works and makes sense to, and for, me.

Very true. And if people were allowed to form their own opinions without pressure from outside sources I'd be fine. And that's why I'm here, and elsewhere.

reply posted on 12-5-2009 @ 10:37 AM by Gawdzilla

Originally posted by deltaalphanovember
reply to post by one_man24

The following is satire:

In the beginning God made man, and God saw it was good. God then made hyena and He saw it was good.
Hyena ate man and God punished hyena to be forever ridiculed in Walt Disney movies.
Man saw it was good.

Sorry, I just find the fact that some human from 200 000 years ago ended up being hyena food as being particularly amusing. I wonder if his last thought was: "someday they'll find my hair and my family will find peace in knowing what happened to me, knowing I didn't just abandon them for the hot blonde Neanderthal in the next valley".

A star for using "hot blonde" and "Neanderthal" in the same sentence without referring to some linebacker's wife.

reply posted on 12-5-2009 @ 10:44 AM by one_man24

reply to post by Gawdzilla

I agree. And you won't find me pushing my beliefs on anyone who doesn't want them to be. What you will find me doing is standing up for what I believe in, and being unmoving in it.

reply posted on 12-5-2009 @ 10:47 AM by one_man24

reply to post by deltaalphanovember

You made me think about the hyenas in the lion king.
Mufasa, Mufasa, Mufasa! lol

reply posted on 12-5-2009 @ 10:52 AM by Gawdzilla

Originally posted by one_man24
reply to post by Gawdzilla

I agree. And you won't find me pushing my beliefs on anyone who doesn't want them to be.

Good for you, then!

What you will find me doing is standing up for what I believe in, and being unmoving in it.

I prefer to remain flexible (in mind if not thoroughly beat-up body.) I always for for evidence to support a claim. Then I look at the evidence, evaluate it, and make the best decision I can reach with the material at hand. Twenty years in the military taught me to be adaptive to the situation and keep my options open.

reply posted on 12-5-2009 @ 10:57 AM by St Udio

It did not even occur to me that human hair in fossilized dung
had a evolution-v-creationism angle to it.

Honestly, i immediately thought that a human hair sample
might have come from a palentologist/student Time-Traveler,
and the hair didn't get into the fossil via the Hyenna digestive tract...
but rather got there by accident or happenstance...

or even put into the target dung, which was carefully burried in the optimum conditions, so as to become fossilized...then discovered...
then publish about.... All for the sake of a Wager by the future time-traveler

but then again, my 'normal' is somewhat outside the box

thanks,

reply posted on 12-5-2009 @ 11:03 AM by Common Good

Just because you believe in a Creator(GOD), does not mean that you have to believe in scripture.
Something that both athiests and Bible thumpers have in common is that they both COULD and PROBABLY are wrong.
If you discredit the bible, that doesnt mean that you can automatically discredit the idea of there being a God.

With that out of the way..I think this is a pretty cool find, but what I want to know is, why are people digging around in poo for? haha I know I know "it was fossilized". I guess my childish mind just finds it rather amusing. I hope that this can give scientists something new to scratch their heads and asses over.

reply posted on 12-5-2009 @ 11:15 AM by one_man24

reply to post by Common Good

I get what you are saying, but I can't believe in the God of Abraham if I don't believe in His word. It makes it difficult.

reply posted on 12-5-2009 @ 11:16 AM by one_man24

reply to post by one_man24

And to get back to the OP, I would be interested how it compares to the hair of a modern day human.

reply posted on 12-5-2009 @ 11:26 AM by deltaalphanovember

reply to post by St Udio

Time Travellers! Now that is more like the ATS'ers that I have come to love and chuckle about/with ...

How about the Swiss watch found in ancient burial chamber:
Link

Archeologists in China are baffled after finding a tiny Swiss watch in a 400-year-old tomb. The watch ring was discovered as archeologists were making a documentary with two journalists from Shangsi town. "When we tried to remove the soil wrapped around the coffin, a piece of rock suddenly dropped off and hit the ground with a metallic sound," said Jiang Yanyu, former curator of the Guangxi Autonomous Region Museum

At least the watch wasn't found in fossilised hyena dung ... it could have been Peter Pan.

reply posted on 12-5-2009 @ 11:42 AM by Kandinsky

reply to post by deltaalphanovember

I've never seen the argument put forward that God created a 17.5 billion year old Universe in six days before he/she or it had a rest. On the seventh day God was bored and decided to add a humorous slant to the Creation. A few old hairs and enormous bones liberally sprinkled around to ensure later bamfoozlement when Mankind got curious

Like a new pair of retro 'worn' jeans, a brand new 'old' Creation would surely be a possibility

reply posted on 12-5-2009 @ 11:45 AM by Fremd

reply to post by deltaalphanovember

Are there any Creationists out there? Could you please tell me how this affects your belief system, if any?

I don't recall the bible ever sayign "When" the planet was created.

It's a gross over exaggeration by atheists based on comments of ignorant "christians" who think they know both A.) When the planet was created and B.) when jesus is coming back

Nobody knows.

I believe science is the word we give to describe God's work.

reply posted on 12-5-2009 @ 12:07 PM by Kandinsky

Edit: Somehow double posted...sorry.

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reply posted on 12-5-2009 @ 03:10 PM by Riposte

Originally posted by deltaalphanovember
Seeings as there are people in this world who believe the world is less than 10 000 years old, I would love to know how they are going to explain this one.

Why? Their explanation would be no different than it was before, so keep patting yourself on the back for making yourself feel so smart and enlightened, unlike those pitiful backwards Christians.

reply posted on 12-5-2009 @ 03:23 PM by Gawdzilla

Originally posted by deltaalphanovember
reply to post by Sonya610

Sonya, absolutely correct, glad someone read the article properly. It is stirring up a lot of interest but I can only imagine how damaged the hair sample is.
I think this is going to be one of those subjects that eventually become as controversial as the Turin Shroud. Some scientists will claim X and others will claim Y.
And, on ATS someone will claim that is alien/human hybrid hair.

And, of course, the YECs will claim that it is, ahem, SHAMpoo. (Sorry, best joke I've stolen today.)

reply posted on 12-5-2009 @ 03:32 PM by Monger

Originally posted by one_man24
reply to post by Common Good

I get what you are saying, but I can't believe in the God of Abraham if I don't believe in His word. It makes it difficult.

Says who? Why do you insist on letting others dictate your faith to you?

Faith is a very personal thing, a journey. One of the major follies of organized religion is that it all comes pre-packaged, taking away the ever-important personal journey angle from the human experience.

reply posted on 12-5-2009 @ 03:35 PM by Monger

On topic, this is an amazing find and I too am excited to see what science is eventually able to discern from these few hairs. I was disappointed to see that they weren't able to extract DNA, but even so there's so much we can learn from them. An exciting find to be sure, as it speaks to the very origins of mankind.

reply posted on 12-5-2009 @ 03:37 PM by moocowman

reply to post by deltaalphanovember

So the dude that was found preserved in a peat bog was nicknamed the obvious Pete Bog.

Will the new kid on the block be named Shiit Head do you think ?

(yes I know it was only a hair LOL)

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