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reply posted on 13-5-2009 @ 07:59 PM by cpdaman
the poster who was talking about Rush L made a good point........4$ could have been a sort of test....or more likely IMO less learned that the public will put up with 3.50$ gas..........however what the public also learned last year (that they might not have been sure of during the run up last year) was that investors and speculators have a desturbing amount of influence on the price of something they are stuck with paying for everyday........so when gas does to 3.25 or whatever people SHOULD be pissed ....that the commodities people virtually need to spend on every day are at the whim of traders pilling into dollar weakness and inflation protection trades....of course the MEDIA will try to see just how absent minded and WILLFully ignorant the public is.....they will sight oil production cutbacks.....a "economic recovery" and virtually anything under the sun is MOST responsible for the run-up in oil prices

remember this.............and this deals with what is a "slippery slope".....you see the MEDIA is really focused on keeping the status quo and taking care of the elite investment class and deflecting blame from them......and they will tell themselves it's in the intrest of "national security" this national security card will have it's limites tested by anchors.....politicos....lawyers etc.....so see just what information they can bend or omit or outright "doctor" in the name of national security under the premise that is it "extremely important during this time of financial crisis" that confidence is restored....somehow...........it may have started with something legitimate.....but then their character of greed and preservation of the establishment class will get them to well....report how they do now ......(B.S)

the administration is crossing their fingers that people's HOPE to see improvement will CAUSE them to willingly interpret sputtering and failure (to change)......just the way the MEDIA spin meister's report it as " start of a recovery".. the MSM has practiced this and refined it as an ART.........they are crossing their fingers and pushing the limits (as far as fudging numbers....them making "revisions" later and later......changing the rules of income statement's / earnings report..etc...etc) all in the name of National security that the weed wackers don't come out and cut thru all the Green Shoots that are being fertlized by pure media B.S....i guess it's worth a try lol ..........BC while it may sound like a stretch to try and Manipulate reality by pushing propoganda to shape consumer psychology .......this is the only playbook they know and have operated off of for some years now

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reply posted on 13-5-2009 @ 08:30 PM by Greenize
reply to post by finemanm



I have to say this first, that is the cutest dog that I have ever seen!!! Anyway, you are right. What are we to do about it though?


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reply posted on 13-5-2009 @ 11:03 PM by finemanm
reply to post by Greenize



Thanks, his name is Gizmo.

To answer your other question.... I don't know. The more I read, the more I write in this website, the older I get, the more I believe that there is nothing we can do.

TPTB control EVERYTHING. They control the press, they control the government, they control industry, and they control education.

Do you think Edward R. Morrow would ever report on Britney Spear's new hair cut? They have dumbed down the citizens. They control who gets to run for office, and make it look like we have a "choice" as to whom we vote for.

If at least half of the people in the US were ATS members and woke up from the lie we have been sold, then and only then could there be real "change."

I just think that most people are blissfully ignorant and don't want to deal with the reality that we are all slaves in this giant machine controlled by the top one percent of the top one percent.


Morpheus: I know *exactly* what you mean. Let me tell you why you're here. You're here because you know something. What you know you can't explain, but you feel it. You've felt it your entire life, that there's something wrong with the world. You don't know what it is, but it's there, like a splinter in your mind, driving you mad. It is this feeling that has brought you to me. Do you know what I'm talking about?

Neo: The Matrix.

Morpheus: Do you want to know what it is?

Neo: Yes.

Morpheus: The Matrix is everywhere. It is all around us. Even now, in this very room. You can see it when you look out your window or when you turn on your television. You can feel it when you go to work... when you go to church... when you pay your taxes. It is the world that has been pulled over your eyes to blind you from the truth.

Neo: What truth?

Morpheus: That you are a slave, Neo. Like everyone else you were born into bondage. Into a prison that you cannot taste or see or touch. A prison for your mind.


The price of fuel is just another control. They raise and lower it to make us do what they want.

Ohhh, I am about to start a thread on this topic.


reply posted on 14-5-2009 @ 12:14 AM by GreenBicMan
reply to post by Sir Solomon



inventories were down today..signaling more consumption

gas is going up because we are roughly sitting at 60 dollars a barrel

watch 60 very closely..

we hit 60 today then sharply went back down..

I say we stay 40-60 a barrel until later this year when we see the economy recovering at a more substantial rate (and yes it will recover)


reply posted on 14-5-2009 @ 02:13 AM by Sir Solomon
reply to post by GreenBicMan



But the supplies have been going down overall since last year.

I do agree though with most of the sentiment on this thread though that we'll see it go higher later this year.

In fact, I read in the USA Today at some point that when the economy started to recover that $4/gallon gas would have to occur. This would be due to the lag there is between production ability and price. Sort of the same effect wheat/soybean prices have on farmers. They plant what they think will bring in the best profit several months in advance of the harvest based on what the expected price is at harvest. So right now refineries aren't producing as much because there isn't incentive to produce more than just enough to cover the dwindling demand.

Makes me glad I am able to walk and be proud of it. You wouldn't believe the looks some people give me when I tell them its my main mode of transport. Sure high gas prices will affect me, but only at the supermarket.

And when I go by new tires...I mean shoes.


reply posted on 14-5-2009 @ 02:35 AM by muffingirl
The price of gas in the Spokane, WA area is around $2.47/gallon right now. I haven't really heard anything about rising gas prices in the MSM. Why is that? Do they think we are too stupid to notice? The powers that be is the US government, influenced by bribery and blackmail of government officials, by Israel. The MSM is all run by Israel, in case you didn't know that already.

I have heard no legitimate excuses EVER for a rise in gas prices, except after Hurricane Katrina. The price of oil is not that high. It is corporate GREED. Greed is not good. Greed will break Americans until they can't even afford to drive, then the oil companies will relent, and the price of gas will mysteriously and suddenly drop to pacify people, as happened the last time.

As for the price of gas suddenly getting higher for Memorial Day or summer vacation season? I don't believe that. I am not stupid. I notice a lot of things. I have noticed the price of virtually everything, especially food and gas, steadily rising for quite awhile now. This is inflation, mostly, I think. It is not just driven by greedy oil barons, but also the weakening of the dollar by all these government bailouts we've been having, and the Obama administration's extravagant spending.

Do whatever you can to conserve gas, and don't buy anything else that runs on gas. Peak oil has either already happened or we are dangerously close to it. Don't count on alternative energy to save you. There is no substitute for oil. No civilized society could survive without it. Nothing else will work, or will be feasible for many years from now.


reply posted on 14-5-2009 @ 02:58 AM by GreenBicMan
reply to post by Sir Solomon



you have some incorrect information

and farmers usually hedge or corp's that is with futures contracts

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reply posted on 14-5-2009 @ 12:09 PM by Sir Solomon
reply to post by GreenBicMan



I'm a city boy so I don't understand the full application of finances to farming, but supply and demand still hold there.

How am I incorrect? Utilization has been in a downward trend since 2004:

Weekly US Percent Utilization of Refinery Capacity (EIA Link)

And then there is a text version focusing on Sep 08 to Feb 09 (notice the peak around the election?):
US Refinery Utilization and Capacity

Can't find it up to current, but demand also follows about the same as refinery utilization, disproving my thought earlier that it's planned in advance (I'm sorry for that):
US Sales to End Users---EIA

And just to add to the discussion as a whole, a chart showing the prices of various gasoline and diesel qualities. We hit the bottom of this particular peak in February, who knows when the top will be?

US Gasoline and Diesel Retail Prices---EIA
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