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Montauk Trouble

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posted on May, 12 2009 @ 01:57 PM
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Google Earth shows it pointing Northeast. It's in the same position it was in when I last viewed it on Google Earth a month or two ago.... I think. ;-)




posted on May, 12 2009 @ 02:01 PM
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I definitely remember the golden horse. was it supposed to be 2012? I forgot that part.

I know some of the things predicted have not happened, we are said to have switched time lines several times over the past 20 years. I'm fairly new to the Looking Glass technology, didn't learn about that at the same time as Montauk. I thought the chair operator would open time tunnels through which people could travel and sometimes return.

I think the Peter Moon (coauthor) books in particular are written on different levels, and if you pick one up that you've read before you notice new things. or maybe it's the new time line kicking in! I think this is a fascinating area of study.



posted on May, 12 2009 @ 02:05 PM
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Yes, it's in the same position. Here's a shot taken of it in 2008.

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posted on May, 12 2009 @ 02:07 PM
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The horse is supposed to be 5000 or 6000, or something. The montauk lads said that back in 89 or 90, taht no one could see beyond 2012, as there is some blockage there. just think it is a new time beginning, personally, a transition.

What ever your feelings on the subject you should read the books as they open up some interesting things lol.



posted on May, 12 2009 @ 02:19 PM
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I work at at TV station and we have steerable 16 foot K-band, and yes, if it is windy enough, the dish will get knocked off the bird its supposed to be looking at, but we are talking about less than .05 of a degree when it does move.



posted on May, 12 2009 @ 02:22 PM
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Don't be coming around here with your logic and truth. Nobody here cares.



posted on May, 12 2009 @ 02:23 PM
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Have you ever heard of Blank Slate Technology? It could explain a lot of these "timeline changes", I even had a source of mine many years ago confirm (if he is to be trusted) that we have altered the line twice, and that was in 99 or 2000.



posted on May, 12 2009 @ 02:24 PM
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Yea I remember the "2012 wall", was the horse in the year 5000 or 6000?



posted on May, 12 2009 @ 02:57 PM
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Thank you for the response to my offer to post most of the information I have regarding the Camp hero Montauk project mystery and claims.
As promised I will do this, I have spoken to some people in regards to not treading on toes as that would not be fair, I also want to make arrangements with a staff member to place some information to counter the bs claims which will come my way.
Putting everything together will take several days, the reason will become clear when it is done.
Thank you for your messages.
azz



posted on May, 12 2009 @ 03:19 PM
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do whatever you need to--can't wait to read your stuff!

it's the oddest subject. it's not that the writing in the books is particularly brilliant and the videos mostly have terrible production values and the interviews ramble and the individuals at times contradict each others, but the subject matter is to me compelling. the more we find out the more sense it makes. i realize it doesn't make sense to everyone, and even that to me is fascinating! why is it entirely plausible to some of us and others believe it nonsense?



posted on May, 12 2009 @ 03:20 PM
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never heard of Blank Slate. I will read this thread and get back to you on what I think about it. I love the way ATS turns up new pieces of the puzzle for me.



posted on May, 12 2009 @ 03:30 PM
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they said some year between them too i cannot remember which.

But i do think that we have switched time lines like people suggest.

People really need to forget about the dish today, as they can do it all with satelittes and other things like preston says.

Just makes you wonder of what preston talked about, and how do they keep things secret now.

can anyone answer my question on the senator goldwater, and did he investigate the montauk project. Can any of us get this info if he did, or will that be totally classified, even though he was a senator.



posted on May, 12 2009 @ 03:32 PM
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I would also love to hear anything you have to further the insite into this project.

One has to wonder if there was such a project, maybe someoen from that project is on here now reading this stuff.

Do you guys think someone who worked there is reading this thread right now?



posted on May, 12 2009 @ 03:35 PM
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I found that reading the books and loking into the info, raises your conciousness levels. The info is compelling, and you know there is something there.

Like i sadi earlier the mind control part is totally true,a nd the computer being connected to humans is also true, and they really do this, to manipulate our reality.

It would be nice to find out about the otehr stuff, but who knows.

I know once i read the books, something changed in me, and i am thankful to al and preston for that, especially al bielek, for the mind control info.



posted on May, 12 2009 @ 03:36 PM
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All anybody has to do is go back to William One Sac's thread from 3 years ago, here it is,

Camp Hero, Montauk Point Air Force Base Pictures

This thread was made 3 years ago and contains pictures of the radar and its position from three years ago!

Here's one of the pictures he posted 3 years ago!



If you line up the buildings and the fence to the other satellite pictures, you will see that 3 years ago the radar was pointing in the same direction it is today!!!

[edit on 5/12/2009 by Keyhole]



posted on May, 12 2009 @ 03:46 PM
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I am also interested in your information. Chances are you'll catch some heat, but who cares? Please share with us.



*pulls up a chair*


As for the OP, be careful going back! Have (someone) a ride ready incase you have 2 book it! And take lots of pictures to post!

Especially the 'active' part of the base, if u can.

I have always been fascinated with this place. Seriously. I've heard alot of strange stories myself when I lived in New York from people who lived in the area. They mentioned that infact this place IS active.

Flag.



posted on May, 12 2009 @ 03:56 PM
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Hey have you ever heard of the "ant hill"? It is a hill near by that is rumored to be the entrance to a massive DUMB. If you could maybe get some pics of the area, the signs, or the hill (without risking your life) that would be great.



posted on May, 12 2009 @ 03:57 PM
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Your right, I gotta feeling this is going to be one of those threads.......A GOOD UN'



posted on May, 12 2009 @ 04:16 PM
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Even found an OLDER satellite picture of the Camp Hero radar on a thread that was started here on ATS in 2004!!!

Here's the link to the thread, ...

Camp Hero (as in Montauk Project) Satellite Image

And here's the satellite photo of the radar pointing in the same direction 5 YEARS AGO!!!



Proof positive that the radar unit was and is STILL pointing in the same direction!

You can thank William One Sac and koji_K for the 2 pictures I posted from their threads here on ATS!

[edit on 5/12/2009 by Keyhole]



posted on May, 12 2009 @ 04:50 PM
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Ah yes. I remember that place? It seems someone working for US Airways was using the old PX for a stash. We found a HUGE supply of airline booze and stuff, as well as the old MWR hotdog wagon and other things. We almost fell thru the floor in some buildings! Also, next time you go to the top of the radar tower, grab onto the flanges for the gearboxes and turn to the left. You'll be able to rotate the dish!




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