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Originally posted by ZindoDoone
Even though church officials in most denominations do NOT want to admit it, Steeples are nothing but phallic symbols of our lords appendage! I know, its not PC but it is true. Sorry if I offend anyone but there is an historical basis for this hypothesis!
Originally posted by prevenge
forgive me for not stating my sources.. but I read somewhere that in the dead sea scrolls there lies a "gospel of christ" where he declares somethign to the effect of "you will not find me under brick or wood".. as in not in the church..
Originally posted by badmedia
reply to post by prevenge
And as heaven and god are within, then what he is talking about with a church is building understanding and wisdom, and wisdom is like something being built upon a rock(matthew 7).
No clue about the chakras and stuff though. I personally think of the church of Philadelphia as being the understanding of the founding fathers, and constitution being the key of david(written in Philadelphia, the city of brotherly love). Which while many of men have tried to shut, they have been unable to, and it has protected many of people from the beast. Although while I am describing physical things, I do not exactly mean physical, I am more talking about the understanding and wisdom behind them. IE: I don't think holding up the constitution is going to be like some physical shield that will stop physical bullets, but the understanding of it can save you from being persecuted and so forth.
I know there was another city called Philadelphia and the others back in those days, but I just can't get over the "coincidence" of all the above, as the known world has certainly expanded and revelation seems to be speaking more about the current time.
Originally posted by St Udio
but, since that Leviticus wording was way before Islam erected
would those 'Minerettes' where the call-to-prayer is sung...
be thought of as those admonished 'Pillars' in the verse you provided ?
that would make those Islamic towers/pillars wicked in the eyes of the OT god...some 1500 years before Mohammed even founded Islam...
And what does the obelisk with egyptian relief sculptures at the entrance to Hyde Park in Sydney Australia have to do with Freemasons?
Originally posted by KRISKALI777
The occurence of Obelisks, I think, shows a definate freemasonry connection- for example. One of Cleopatras' "neddles", was removed and shipped at great expense from Egypt to London. This exercise was financed by a freemason.
In Sydney Australia, we have an obelisk, complete with egyptian relief sculptures at the entrance to Hyde Park.
Originally posted by KRISKALI777 The occurence of Obelisks, I think, shows a definate freemasonry connection- for example. One of Cleopatras' "neddles", was removed and shipped at great expense from Egypt to London. This exercise was financed by a freemason. In Sydney Australia, we have an obelisk, complete with egyptian relief sculptures at the entrance to Hyde Park. And what does the obelisk with egyptian relief sculptures at the entrance to Hyde Park in Sydney Australia have to do with Freemasons?
"YOU SHALL make for yourselves no idols nor shall you erect a graven image, pillar, or obelisk, nor shall you place any figured stone in your land to which or on which to bow down; for I am the Lord your God." (Leviticus 26:1, KJV Amplified Bible)
"When the children of Israel would forsake God, they turned to worshipping idols. One of the idols they worshipped was the obelisk. God had specifically forbidden them to do so ...They were also told that, when they went into pagan nations, they 'shall overthrow their altars, and break their pillars (obelisks) and burn their groves with fire; and ye shall hew down the graven images of their gods and destroy them out of that place. Ye shall not do so unto the Lord your God'. Many other such warnings are also in the Bible. The following references use the same Hebrew word for 'pillar' (obelisk) but it is translated as 'images'. See: Exodus 23:24; 34:13 Deuteronomy 7:5; 16:22; 1 Kings 14:23; 2 Kings 10:26-27; 17:10; 18:4; 23:14; 2 Chronicles 14:3; 31:1; Hosea 10:1-2; and Micah 5:13 ... The Bible clearly states, 'Come out from among them and be ye separate, saith the Lord, and touch not the unclean thing, and I will receive you' (2 Corinthians 6:17)."5
The Enlightenment – known in French as the Siècle des Lumières, the Century of Enlightenment, and in German as the Aufklärung – was a philosophical movement which dominated the world of ideas in Europe in the 18th century. The Enlightenment included a range of ideas centered on reason as the primary source of authority and legitimacy, and came to advance ideals such as liberty, progress, tolerance, fraternity, constitutional government and ending the abuses of the church and state.
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