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UFO and Alien Body Recovery Teams

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posted on May, 14 2009 @ 03:26 PM
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Did you get my u2u? Also I am curious because you must have done SOMETHING to get the attention of this sender.




posted on May, 14 2009 @ 03:45 PM
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well ... if this is a prank, well, who is doing it sure knows a lot ... you could try to search for this text and see if it exists in another website ...


well, I just cannot know how a person would hack your email account, put an email, and make it disappear after you look into it ... well, the person would need to hack hotmail servers and put some script ... I think it is almost impossible ... I wouldnt know how to think in how to do it ...



posted on May, 14 2009 @ 03:47 PM
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post removed for serious violation of ATS Terms & Conditions



posted on May, 14 2009 @ 04:13 PM
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Yea it seems legit, the only other possibility is that SG-7 is hoaxing all of us, which I don't think he is. I have had many conversations with him on here and believe him to be legit.



posted on May, 14 2009 @ 06:00 PM
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Please format your post any way you are comfortable with,your input is greatly appreciated.

Please ignore any requests to correct your spelling formatting grammer or any other trivial issues that take away from the flow of the thread.

This is a common tactic to change conversation direction and it is absolutely annoying.

A message to the poster who requested the change,I speak only for myself here ,your request is offensive to me and it interferes with the continuity of communication on this thread,please make more of an effort to adapt to the world around you ,and quit asking the world to change for you.

If you cant understand the general idea of what is being discussed due to the formatting then I believe you have greater problems than the formatting,these are interpersonal challenges and I am sure you will overcome them.



posted on May, 14 2009 @ 06:00 PM
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Please format your post any way you are comfortable with,your input is greatly appreciated.

Please ignore any requests to correct your spelling formatting grammer or any other trivial issues that take away from the flow of the thread.

This is a common tactic to change conversation direction and it is absolutely annoying.

A message to the poster who requested the change,I speak only for myself here ,your request is offensive to me and it interferes with the continuity of communication on this thread,please make more of an effort to adapt to the world around you ,and quit asking the world to change for you.

If you cant understand the general idea of what is being discussed due to the formatting then I believe you have greater problems than the formatting,these are interpersonal challenges and I am sure you will overcome them.



posted on May, 15 2009 @ 03:07 AM
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You have actually brought up an interesting point where
in order to get to my Hotmail account which is at the
local server IP address of origin.mail.live.com [64.4.20.169]
my ADSL modem must usually go through this IP address
which is at:

d154-20-0-254.bchsia.telus.net [154.20.0.254]

It is ENTIRELY POSSIBLE that my data packets were
being somehow re-routed temporarily to another IP address
and have the Hotmail Email Text that I am talking about
inserted into that stream as it is displayed to me.

It could be that the email text was NOT ACTUALLY on Hotmail
at all but rather inserted as the Hotmail list was displayed to me
and when I clicked on that link it opened up a message
that was located elsewhere. It was never deleted from
my Hotmail account because it was never really there!

I'm stretching here, but that scenario would also get around
the thorny problem of encrypted username and password
authentication at the Hotmail servers. Since only the
username/password is encrypted and not the downloaded
email subject line list, a keyword listen script could be created
and then executed as packets are sent to my computer.
A NEW email subject line could be inserted into that
downloaded Hotmail list of email subject lines!

It sounds rather ridiculous and far fetched because why would
ANYONE go to that much trouble as a prank or even as
a genuine whistleblow? Why not simply SNAIL MAIL ME
a package of evidence rather than send me some
cockamaney email text?

And thinking of how such a thing could be done, The only thing
I can think of is through something called DNS re-direction
where my local Domain Name Server list cache is polluted
with a fake or modified DNS server list.
THAT would take some serious know how and it's effects
would be only temporary...say 24 hours max in my case
because we FLUSH our DNS servers every day
using a server-based batch file!

The pollution of local DNS server lists can be caused
by things such as computer viruses, worms, or trojan horses
which can be mitigated using something like Norton Antivirus
or AVG AntiVirus. A particularly well written one can still get
past the virus scanners but MOST of the bad scripts can be
killed if you have properly updated your antivirus software
which I have done quite religiously.

To prevent such a DNS List Pollution Attack you can run
a DOS Command line box in Windows and type in the
following commands:

ipconfig /Flushdns
ipconfig /RegisterDNS

ipconfig /release
ipconfig /renew

These commands remove any polluted DNS server lists
from your local computer which will then try and download
a proper one from your local service provider or corporate
DNS server...and when your local computer is flushed
of it's local DHCP IP address, a new clean one is gotten
from your local corporate domain server or Internet service
provider server.

The only other thing I can think of is that someone has actually
physically cut into my ADSL line intercepting all my packets
and doing their own insertion of data packets...which is a darn
near impossible thing to do on a practical basis!

And to answer that last question of
Did I write that email? NO!

It has a writing style that is SIMILAR TO MY OWN
and is as long-winded as I usually am, but I notice
subtle differences especially in it's use of Americanized
expressions and spellings rather than the Canadian English
I usually use. And some of the military words were unfamiliar
to me which I had to look up under Wikipedia and Internet
Dictionaries. There are also some age-related Netspeak
expressions that usually only someone under the age
of 30 to 35 uses and I'm almost 40!

I have no other explanation for it's origin and why it
was released to me, so the questions to ask of you
fellow ATS'ers is:

Is this Email a Description of a Real
UFO and Alien Recovery Team created by
the United States Military???

Who Created this Email?

Where Did It Come From?

Is it part of a Disinformation Campaign?

Why was it sent to ME specifically?

Any Other Comments?

P.S. Where is the Video Proof?



[edit on 2009/5/15 by StargateSG7]



posted on May, 15 2009 @ 03:59 AM
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Not sure if it's been mentioned, but somebody can easily spoof e-mail addresses like hotmail when they send e-mails through telnet (I think it was telnet, I forget). I've done it many times when I was younger.

It's not a real e-mail, somebody just used it as the domain.

Somebody's playing a trick on you.



posted on May, 15 2009 @ 04:28 PM
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You misunderstand what happened...The mail I received was
actually part of the normal Hotmail web page that loads when
I log into Hotmail and see a listing of email subject lines.

It was an actual listing within the Hotmail web page and thus
when I clicked on the subject line the NORMAL Hotmail web-based
email page reader was displayed for me to peruse.

I read the email in it's entirety and then did a cut and paste
of the text body into a Windows Notepad file which I saved to my
LOCAL hard drive just out of habit...Hotmails normally stay on
the server and can be accessed from ANY computer connected
to the Net using a Browser-based webmail interface.

I did notice during reading of the email that NO HEADER
information indicating the sources and servers it went through
was displayed at all...It was blank when my other emails
ALWAYS show the long format email header information!
No return or sender address information was present
nor was any source or intermediate IP address data!

When I closed that window I perused other email within
Hotmail and logged out. I did some web surfing and then
logged back in again whereupon THAT email was NO LONGER
in the Hotmail list of emails. I am quite sure I did NOT delete
the email and even if I did, it would have been in the Deleted
Mail folder which acts much like the Windows Recycle Bin
where items can be retrieved even after deletion
from my inbox.

That email was simply GONE except for that cut and paste
job which I then fixed up by added the hard line breaks
so it would fit into an ATS posting.

So it COULD NOT have been a Telnet access which is
DISABLED on our entire network anyways...only email ports
and Port 80 web browsing and some streaming video
ports are turned on - everything else is BLOCKED by our
enterprise-level firewall !!!!!!

I have no truly logical explanations as to what
actually happened...every else is pure conjecture!

[edit on 2009/5/15 by StargateSG7]



posted on May, 15 2009 @ 08:51 PM
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Thi s is how a spoofed email will look like when received (wasn't really sent by bill clinton)


it wasn't layed out like that? everything in the headers can be faked with that technique. not to mention there's probably scripts that do this that are 100 times better and easier.



posted on May, 20 2009 @ 03:31 PM
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It's been almost two weeks and I've heard Nada, Nix, Nyet, Nay
and NOTHIN or a big fat ZERO of extra stuff showing up at my door
from this famous (infamous) TTYL which I just found out is Netspeak
for Talk To You Later - Talk about showing my age here!

OK THis is a general rant for you fakesters, hustlers, dis-info
wackos and just plain old trollish h***raisers....

GET ON WITH YOUR LIVES !!!!!!

I --Make that WE!-- are TIRED of your games and false hopes.
I've been suckered -- It's as simple as that!

If there is NO DEFINITIVE CORROBORATING EVIDENCE
OR VIDEO PROOF available to back up any cockamaney story
you send me, then your word is BUNK! Get It! B-U-N-K !!!!!!

I am just sick and tired of all the hucksters and their two-bit stories
feeding us the lies like the trolls they are. Enough! I've Had It!
If you can't give us the evidence we want in a timely manner
then go stuff a !@#$%^& in your !$@*&^%$ and stop sending
us your weary old C-R-A-P !!!!!!!!

GO AWAY !!!!! Stay in the basement suite your mother
has set aside for you to waste your already pathetic lives in!
Leave us alone while we plod on, gathering REAL proof and
Validated Evidence to present to the learned contributors on ATS!

Video Rocks...Just Text Walks!

Thank You

A Rant

from

StargateSG7



[edit on 2009/5/21 by StargateSG7]



posted on May, 20 2009 @ 04:54 PM
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Project Moon Dust was the classified name of the Air Force's program to recover any satellite of Soviet origin or other unknown object. It was found using the Freedom of Information Act, and the USAF changed the name to another classified name.

Project Moon Dust was around since the 1960s at least and was activated for the Kecksburg PA crash according to researcher Kevin Randle.



posted on May, 26 2009 @ 11:57 AM
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I was going to mention Kecksburg also, you are quick! As with everything time will tell.



posted on May, 30 2009 @ 01:07 AM
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It is with regret that I must admit that I was probably spoofed.
After a converstation with an IP/HTML expert friend, he believes
that an earlier email sent to my inbox loaded a script which
spoofed hotmail, making it LOOK LIKE the real thing but in fact
was a fake hotmail account which contained the email I "received".

I usually on purpose turn my SCRIPT checking OFF so that I see
all actions on my computer. While this does leave my hotmail account
vulnerable, my local computer is protected by anti-virus and since
there is nothing particularly interesting in my zr4 hotmail account
an incursion would not be especially damaging.

However it DOES leave me open to spoof emails.

and because I was too excited at reading the email,
i didn't look too closely at the other subject lines ergo
leaving me vulnerable to a Spoof Web Site script.

Mea Culpa for being too accepting and UNCRITICAL of
Internet Email !!!! Why somebody would do this to ME specifically
is somewhat of an issue and the only thing I can think of is that
it's some troll who has nothing better to do than stir up some
controversy taking advantage of my Naivete...this case illustrates
to a high degree that we ATS'ers must look with a critical eye
at EVERYTHING we see, hear and read as others may have
unfathomable agendas which can include everything from
deliberate structured disinformation to simple Internet Trolls
living out their fantasies from their Mom's Basement !!!!

So my apologies if I have made more of this email than I probably
should have and next time I shall be that much more critical and
skeptical and so should YOU !!!!!

So for now I consider this case CLOSED !!!!



posted on Jun, 19 2009 @ 05:04 PM
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Hem...Still makes no sense as to the subject and such. I would still consider this case very much open. It will be interesting to see if you receive anything more in the months to come.



posted on Jun, 19 2009 @ 05:45 PM
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S&F


This is a real intriguing story bud. Looking forward to anything else you may receive.



posted on Jun, 25 2009 @ 02:24 PM
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It will be interesting to say the least at what comes in the
followng months...while I still think the email is --probably--
a means to poke fun at me, based upon it's writing style I cannot
preclude the fact that the trollster may have unwittingly obtained
SOME material from --somewhere-- which he/she probably
"enhanced" to make it seem more believeable.

I still think the hotmail thing was a spoof, but due to the fact that
parts of the email have very distinct and different writing styles,
I believe that MULTIPLE TEXTS were mixed together to form a
greater whole.

I am also beginning to believe, after much thought, that SOME
of the text is REAL but that the Trollster who sent it to me
doesn't realize it........I thing he/she was more of a text "Editor"
and Cut & Paster than a writer and mixed multiple
text sources together!!!

Where those ORIGINAL SOURCES came from....well that is
another matter entirely which definitely needs to be
looked into at a forensic level of scrutiny!

And WHO would do this and take the TIME to create a decently
accurate spoof of Hotmail....That I don't know...like I said
aerly it could be Deliberate Disinformation from a 3 or 4 letter
agency OR it could be the stereotypical script kiddie toddling
away in Mom's basement for kicks!

I simply don't KNOW and all I can do is wait for maybe
another secretive email OR even better....that proverbial
unmarked brown envelope from a secretive "Deep Throat"
containing the proverbial "Smoking Gun" documents or
photos or VIDEO !!!!!!!!!!

Anyways! ..... I still MUST WARN ATS'ers to have a bit more
skepticism and emotional distance when obtaining and
dessiminating sources of material that might HIGHLIGHT or
"Expose" the truth about the paranormal or UFO's or Aliens!

Our society has become a MEDIA SOCIETY much interested in
Fame, Instant Fortune and just plain old tom-foolery because
of the instant gratification that instant communications offers.
Thus we must be much more careful in the evaluation of our
sources or source material because there may be hidden
agendas ranging from actual high-level conspiracy within
large scale agencies all the way down to simple-minded social
gratification by those who wish to get a few mindless kicks
out of watching Rome burn and the people screaming as it does!



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