All I'm suggesting, is that people of strong faith, who understand something of what's possible, focus on watching that graph peak out and fall back down, to nothing.

It depends on how you define causation. If you believe as I do that everything is interconnected and that all action/reaction is a emergent phenomenon and is formative, arising from thought and strongly held belief, even to the extent of an acausal connecting principal - if you were to accept the book recommendation I offered and investigate such things free of contempt prior to investigation, then you might come to see the merit in what I am suggesting.

Put another way, in a non-local, holographic universe, and within the hierarchy of the tree of life, which is more powerful, the human mind, esepcially the human mind linked in parallel with other like minds, or, a virus? And furthermore, if you've done any research on what may be called "medical miracles", then you would not underestimate the power of thought and belief to overcome any and all threats to the human being.

So in effect I am addressing the virus, and saying to it - you're not helpful, and you are not wanted, you do not serve the creation, and so therefore, please go away - but this isn't possible, with everyone egging it on, and delighting in sharing as much bad news about it as possible, even to the extent of inflating it's power to spread and to kill.

It's just a new way of looking at the world and interacting with it, based on something both very new and very old, that's all.

I don't expect most people to get it, since we've all been raised in a materialist monist Newtonian Cartesian worldview, wherein such things as "miracles" are impossible.

But there is no denying that, standing relative to the as yet unborn future, we stand in relation to a realm of near limitless possibility, with the instrument of the human mind at our disposal, which is the most powerful and complex phenomenon, in the entire universe.

Some get where I'm coming from, but to others, it sounds like absurd nonsense I'm sure.

You see, I know a LOT of people are EXPECTING, with lots of passionate fear, for this thing to really take off, and even evolve and come back evollved and kill millions of people - so I'm hoping to create an even MORE powerful counter movement, of people who believe in the power of the mind and mind alone (of course it makes sense to wash your hands), to quash it, and to do so, we must expect for it to go away, and NOT to return more evolved, but to just do humanity a favour and die. No judgement, just go away H1N1. You don't belong and are not helpful. Wither and die, thank you very much.

And according to what I understand, all I need are just one or two others to join me in this affirmation and proclamation and BELIEVE IT, and it'll happen just like we ask. Why? Because it's for the good of one and all, and therefore resonant with the highest will or intention.

Like with most things, you are either part of the solution or part of the problem, but be aware that either way, you ARE a part of eveything and what you think and believe DOES have an impact, sometimes of the farthest reaching implications, if chaos theory and quantum physics has any validity you do.

What, you think everything just happens to you and that you are not an active participant in the whole of it all, for good or for ill? Wake up!


P.S. I applied this principal to the evils of the Bush administation, and was one of the first few hundred people involved in the 9/11 truth movement while facing much ridicule (told I was crazy then too), even coined the phrase "9/11 was an inside job" and though it took a LOT of effort, I think we had a definite impact wiping that viral infection from the face of the earth (although it would seem Dick Cheney still hasn't recieved the memo).

[edit on 12-5-2009 by OmegaPoint]

Originally posted by fleabit

If you stood under a piano, and they dropped it over your head, will positive thinking keep it from landing on you? No, gravity will have none of that, sorry. Same with this virus.

Bad analogy. Piano is not organic, so not so influencable by your 'vibes' man. Still is to some extent, but gravity is going to win for sure, unless you got some pretty hefty vibes.

Now, a virus is a living organic being, with some kind of intelligence, so a lot more susceptible to energetic influence from you or me or human beings en masse IMO.

A better analogy, although still not perfect, would be the difference between our two postmen. One is afraid of our dog (see avatar), the other not. Guess which one the dog tries to bite?

You could add in some other factors... for e.g. the FACT that fear, anxiety etc suppress the immune system whereas joy and feelings of security empower it - I thought everyone knew that?!?

Getting more metaphysical, 'we pull to us what we focus on' is highly accurate, however, most people have no idea what they are really focusing on as they somnambulate through the bulk of their lives anyway.

Just one more: a thousand wimpy and half-hearted positive affirmations are immediately wiped out and overpowered by one fully engaged and authentic expression of fear. Very few have that much control over their thoughts and feelings, and although a belief in the body's ability to self heal can be adopted in any moment, it seems to take quite a few years and repeated self proving to really take root.

ciao for now
R

[edit on 14/5/09 by RogerT]

Originally posted by OmegaPoint
And according to what I understand, all I need are just one or two others to join me in this affirmation and proclamation and BELIEVE IT, and it'll happen just like we ask. Why? Because it's for the good of one and all, and therefore resonant with the highest will or intention.

It's a nice thought, but you are missing the point. The good of one and all is non-exclusive - there is no good, no evil, no bad virus. All is one and all is god/godly.

You'd have more luck with your plan by embracing the beauty of the virus, the beauty of its intelligence and instead of willing it to die off, just love it and let it be.

Ironically, the virus will persist in your reality to the exact extent that you resist it, and by trying to 'protect' yourself and others from 'catching' it, you are more likely to experience it, sorry.

Ah but if the virus is part of everything, and the human mind, more powerful, then could it not be persuaded to de-evolve and die for the sake of the greater good? I know I would not want to be a virus who's job in life is to attack and hurt and even kill God's highest creation..! The virus is a lot like Dick Cheney, it's just not helpful and serves no purpose in the continuing flow of historical causation. But Dick Cheney, because I and other's loath him so, just won't go away, so you have a point about "that which you resist, persists."

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