reply to post by dooper
Proto, I have no idea what you're talking about.
Dooper my friend I truly believe you don’t.
You suggest that we are attacking folks who couldn't attack a Wal-Mart over here.
When were you born?
Pittsburgh Pennsylvania, my father was a P.H.D. in Chemistry who went to the University of Pittsburgh interrupted his education to volunteer to become
a Navy Frogman during World War II and served in the Pacific and his father retired a Rear Admiral in the English Navy before immigrating to America.
My mother held a Masters in Education whose Father had a P.H.D. in Metallurgy both educated at Carnegie Melon. Her ancestry was English, Irish and
Polish, and my father’s was 100% English. English enough for a Castle on the Themes and a famed Regatta still raced today under the Family
Name…how about you buddy? Where are you from?
These same people harbored the folks who dropped our towers, blew up our embassies, and attacked our ships.
Did all this happen before you were born?
Well no as a matter of fact I watched every second of it unfold on TV from the very first report of a tragic plane accident in New York City when at
just a few minutes after 9:00 AM Eastern Standard Time CNN broke into it’s normal American Morning Programming with Paula Zhan to say they were
getting sketchy reports that a commercial airliner may have accidently crashed into the World Trade Centers. I stayed glued to the TV and didn’t go
into work until almost 3:00 PM that afternoon and saw the second plane hit as it did and both of the towers come crashing down, news of the explosion
and the Pentagon, the President in Florida visiting a class of school children, and then later news and shots of the plane that crashed into the
ground in a field in Shanks Field PA that as a child I had rode past on the way to Somerset many times.
What did happen before I was born was a little thing called the Constitution of the United States of America dooper, I am sure you have heard of it?
In it all people are innocent until proven guilty by a Court of Law in a proceeding where they have a right to trial by Judge or a Jury of American
Citizens to decide their guilt and fate…
That’s the thing I have missed my friend. I haven’t seen a trial, I haven’t heard a verdict through our Constitutional process and I will
condemn no man, nation or people that stand accused who have not been given that privilege which in not giving them that privilege deny me my
Constitutional right to know the truth.
In the rolling hills of Pennsylvania where I am from dooper the Constitution was something people were taught to believe in and fight and die for.
We were not attacked by a nation that day Dooper but by a criminal conspiracy and a crime was committed against the American people and frankly my
friend which of the thousands upon thousands upon thousands of now dead Afghanis are you so sure harbored those 19 Saudi Citizens who according to my
Constitution are only alleged to have committed that crime, because according to my Constitution they all are innocent until proven guilty in an
American Court of Law in a free and open proceeding.
Wow. Doesn't seem all that long ago to me, but it sure as hell indicates some short memories over here.
They wrote the Constitution in 1782 Dooper. Yes I would agree some very short memories indeed. I have no idea while people no longer value its
principals or decry and defy their government when they fail to uphold it. Do you dooper?
But you're right about one thing.
We'll lose this thing.
Because we can't remember diddly squat.
Dooper my friend we can’t win this thing because we can’t remember our too long abandoned now Constitution, our own Democratic principals of
honesty and fair play and justice and above all and even more so something called Karma, and if you think for a second the pitiful state of the world
and our economy is not the Karmic reaction to such a gross violation and dereliction of our own Constitutional Principals and Best Traditions I
respectfully suggest you are sadly mistaken.
I know you are a warrior my friend, but there are things to fight for, and things to fight against, and in my humble opinion what you are fighting for
is fighting against something we have long held near and dear but no more.
If my government could spend all that money and all those lives they sure as heck could have given me and every other American the benefit of the
entire truth by doing it the Constitutional way in such a situation which was not an act of war by a nation upon us but a criminal conspiracy that in
my opinion has not been even properly investigated let alone prosecuted and I think we are attacking the wrong people for the wrong reason my friend
and the biggest casualty of all has been our Constitutional way of life and the respect and peace of mind that comes with following it.
That’s where I am from my friend and my memory serves me better than most!