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Meditation??? (just kidding with the triple question marks)This is my meditation. Writing answers to posts. The terminology is a result of my "meditation" but the general concept comes from reading the Bible. (my other form of meditation)
Yeah but somebody told you this. How do you know this is true???? Have you investigated this yourself directly in meditation.
You are right about them being the same but that is not proof they are right. Look at your own post. Catholics killing heretics. Because they called themselves Christian did not make it right.
So it would be blatant to say the spiritual experiences of Xtians are of God, but the same exact ones that other spiritual groups have are of the devil.
Jesus came in the right time when all these different religions were coalescing into a synthesis that would have been undefeatable if he had come any later.
Jesus should have just showed up in the very beginning of time so as to not have all this confusion in the religions of the world, plus he should have showed up to all the groups, hindu's, buddhists, natives, etc.
The people they replaced in Canaan were sacrificing people.
Instead, he only and strictly appeared to the animal sacrificing jews. Isn't that interesting. It's as if everybody else will figure it out, but the jews specifically were lost.
Same here, brother.
waiting for God to come down and blaze fire and brimstone destructing everyone but Christians. That makes me sick.
I think you are misunderstanding the verse. He wants his disciples to be one among each other, just as he is with his Father.
He came so that the oneness he has/had with God, he can show us how we can have that too.
It is not my business to think that way. I believe in the Bible and recognize what it is and that it seriously needs to be properly interpreted. If I can help out by inserting my own perspective I hope to create a better balance. Bashing people is not on my agenda.
They usually want to roast me in an oven for being different than they are.
There is a single word that the Jews used to tell the very important story about the sacrifice demanded by God, it is the Binding. He fell short of actually killing his son Isaak, but he did bind him in order to carry it out, thereby showing his willingness to follow God's commandment.
Jesus also said Abraham rejoiced to see My day and he saws it and was glad. This is where I have to ask myself what was going on back then that Abraham would of rejoiced and been so glad about if the OT was representing the Creator God in the right way?
God never wanted blood. He does not feed on it. Now, the Canaanites believed their god did. Let's say you have a great big boulder that looks pretty good for making sacrifices on. They would cut a groove in it so that the blood would flow down it to a point way under the rock that was normally inaccessible. That was where God ate it. Abraham told people to stop it. He was a mason (of course people stealing the name for themselves is not what I mean) and his mission was to travel around to instruct people on how to build altars. What they did was to make them so it was clear that God was not down there slurping up blood.
I also can't see the God/Father Jesus talks about wanting blood sacrifices as the one in the OT. Seems strange for a Creator to requests you to kill his creations when he knows when a sparrow falls. Perhaps thats a mystery in the OT find the real God amongst the false ones. If you know God then you have a good chance of doing so.
Not when it contradicts the Bible.
So wouldn't a thought that popped into someones head by chance might be those spiritual ears hearing it if they have been thinking about the scriptures?
Goes with my signature, which I had first. Jesus offers light. I realize everyone sees things differently and is why I try not to attack people but deal with ideas. I did attack one person's motives because he was obviously baiting me so I let him have it.(happened a long time ago)
I noticed your avatar interesting that you didn't just stop with a head shot of Jesus. You put his hands out offering us something also. Yet I bet not everyone sees him offering the same thing.
They were considered sacred, the days of the week, because they were named for gods and if someone ever tryed to change them, the supporters of that god would have thrown a fit, and it never happened.
How do we know when exactly is the sabbath day? We can't go by calanders since they've changed over the course of history.
Recognize it as distinct and to go back to its original purpose, to recognize the One who created everything, including days.
Just what does one do to keep a day holy?
Not when it contradicts the Bible.
I do not mean to belittle your experience, exactly, but I went through all that, like when I was seventeen. There is something to it, I know, but look at what you are saying; self examination and a revelation that puts who you are in the right perspective. The fact is that most people do not survive it intact. What I mean is their beliefs change and they go after something that seems like what their experience showed them. They come up with what we, meaning people in my particular so-called denomination, call pantheism.
All it really is, is to examine who you think you are, how you operate, what your composed of. When you know all these aspects of yourself, the mind becomes tamed, its easier to no longer sin in action and in thought, knowing yourself grants you self mastery. Then at the end of self inquiry, you finally see that which is underlying you, everyone, and everything else, is the Omnipresence of God and you simply melt into Union w/ God.
so you can explain it to people who will only listen when it is coming out of the canonical Bible.
Originally posted by dominicus
That's the problem though, is that most Xtians wrapped around the canon are in a box and there is no way out of it. I was there too. When I first became a Christian I took it all in on faith and had a certain reference about how everything works.
Separation; that is what he was talking about. There was a separation by physical things, and then there was (coming) a separation by Spiritual discernment. (between good and evil)
Jesus teaching is spiritualism which says worship God in the form of the spirit but Abrahamic teaching is to do with following certain rituals rigidly applied.