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Originally posted by pai mei
Great movie. Privatization is the solution ? Desalination ? What if I can't pay for it ? Water should be like air. Free. How do we protect it from our evil economic ways ? We don't. We will keep playing "Economy" until we have a dead planet.
This is the problem :
"When the last tree is cut down, the last fish eaten and the last stream poisoned, then you will realize that you cannot eat money." ~ Cree Indian proverb
Originally posted by pai mei
reply to post by Yandros
No, government is not made up of good people. But I prefer the government to say "everybody has the right to drinking water", and protect the water.
I do not want the government to sell the water to some corporation, like they did in Bolivia. That is evil.
About socialism : I am a communist. Yes the evil Stalin type, I have a red flag and a sickle and I chase people around and I demand they give me their money !
I don't care about money. They can keep them. Just don;t condition my survival on their money so I am forced to be their slave. But this is the system.
Soon (2-3 years) people will look at Cuba with envy. They will not care about peak oil, economic crisis or whatever. The WWF declared them the only country with sustainable development.
I am from Romania. Born in 1980 I experienced communism until the age of 10. It was not bad at all. Now people are forced to work to have a job, to destroy the planet.
Back then everybody had a job, and there was no way they could get unemployed. But there were too many people so there was lot of free time at the job. Then people had 1 month and even more - paid holiday every year. Life was much less stressful than now. Of course there was the police state, but as long as you did not curse the great lider nobody wanted anything from you.
Now you are free : to vote? to chose from 1000 types of jeans. Nice freedoms ! Would like more free time - can't have that in capitalism, sorry. Free time is real freedom. Freedom to chose your master as a slave - that is not freedom.
In a 1927 interview with the magazine Nation’s Business, Secretary of Labor James J. Davis provided some numbers to illustrate a problem that the New York Times called “need saturation.” Davis noted that “the textile mills of this country can produce all the cloth needed in six months’ operation each year” and that 14 percent of the American shoe factories could produce a year’s supply of footwear. The magazine went on to suggest, “It may be that the world’s needs ultimately will be produced by three days’ work a week.”
Business leaders were less than enthusiastic about the prospect of a society no longer centered on the production of goods. For them, the new “labor-saving” machinery presented not a vision of liberation but a threat to their position at the center of power. John E. Edgerton, president of the National Association of Manufacturers, typified their response when he declared: “I am for everything that will make work happier but against everything that will further subordinate its importance. The emphasis should be put on work—more work and better work.” “Nothing,” he claimed, “breeds radicalism more than unhappiness unless it is leisure.”
By the late 1920s, America’s business and political elite had found a way to defuse the dual threat of stagnating economic growth and a radicalized working class in what one industrial consultant called “the gospel of consumption”—the notion that people could be convinced that however much they have, it isn’t enough. President Herbert Hoover’s 1929 Committee on Recent Economic Changes observed in glowing terms the results: “By advertising and other promotional devices . . . a measurable pull on production has been created which releases capital otherwise tied up.” They celebrated the conceptual breakthrough: “Economically we have a boundless field before us; that there are new wants which will make way endlessly for newer wants, as fast as they are satisfied.”
Today “work and more work” is the accepted way of doing things. If anything, improvements to the labor-saving machinery since the 1920s have intensified the trend. Machines can save labor, but only if they go idle when we possess enough of what they can produce. In other words, the machinery offers us an opportunity to work less, an opportunity that as a society we have chosen not to take. Instead, we have allowed the owners of those machines to define their purpose: not reduction of labor, but “higher productivity”—and with it the imperative to consume virtually everything that the machinery can possibly produce.
Originally posted by shamus78
This has been brewing for awhile, and unfortunately for the vast amount of people it's too late. Luckily for us first world nations, it doesn't mean death, just an extra bill to pay and another scare tactic to keep us on our toes.
Would you rather have a terror attack or be told that there is only enough water for half the population? Interestingly, such a tactic could really bring together community's hell-bent on saving water.