Originally posted by seasoul
If the U.S. Government is the so called “Fourth Reich,” what about the uneven influence of the Israeli lobby within this government?
I was under the impression that these two ideologies were in fundamental disagreement.
Either there's a paradox occuring, or old enemies have finally decided to forgive one another, and begin working together as brothers, to construct
the New World Empire.
Peace on Earth!
[edit on 10-5-2009 by seasoul]
It would be a mistake in my humble oppinion to equate the Zionist politics and machinations that founded the modern State of Israel as being about Old
or New Testament Scripture.
Many prominent Zionists who were waging a terrorist campaign to oust the English Authorities of the British Mandate at first concieved upon the
issuance of the Balfour Declaration by the British Parliment personally addressed to Lord Rothschild expressing their intent to in the future capture
Ottoman Turkish controlled Palestine to create a homeland for Zionists, Jews and Hebrews who had been lobying for one through the International
Zionist Congress through it's Conventions for two decades.
Those same prominent Zionists including Yitzhak Shamir who at the time of this incident was the leader of the terrorist Stern Gang and would one day
become Prime Minister of Israel, at that time travelled with a high ranking group of Zionists in 1942 to meet with and petition Nazi German officials
in Nazi Occupied Greece to appeal to Hitler to fund the Zionist Movement and provide it logistical support to aide in their fight against their mutual
enemy the British. In exchange they promised to set up a fascist totalatarian government in Palestine modeled on the Nazi State.
Hitler turned the offer down and history does not deny these meetings took place for that purpose or outcome.
Sir Winston Churchill as had his father was close lifetime friends with the Rothschild family and it was even rumored that Churchill was carrying on
an extra-marital affair with Lord Rothschild's wife.
During most of the twenties and thirties Churchill was Colonial Secretary for England and as such was responsible for overseeing the British Mandate
Of course the Zionist dream was to populate the new territory with Zionists, Jews and Hebrews from all over the world. Churchill and Rothschild who
was then as is now the leading and foremost Zionist exchanged many private letters regarding the progress of immigration to the Palestinian Mandate by
Zionists, Jews and Hebrews and the progress they were making once there in settling and establishing communities.
The Zionists, Jews, and Hebrews of Europe and America were mostly a cosmopolitan people, many of respectable means, who had thriving businesses and
conducted lucrative commerce in those far flung cities who had little interest in foresaking all that to return to a Religious homeland that many had
no ancestoral or cultural ties too but only spiritual ones.
Immigration was slow and spotty to Palestine during most of the twenties and thirties and both Churchill and Rothschild often complained that the
quality of those Zionists, Jews and Hebrews that were immigrating was not that of the upper class who would have good experience at building industry
and commerce and infrastructure that would make the new Zionist, Hebrew, Jewish settlements thrive but were most often poor Jews and Hebrews of
Eastern European and Western Asian descent that lacked the drive and acumen and skills to build industry and commerce and infrastructure and were more
often than not a burden on the system as opposed to an assett.
There is a lot of very strong circumstantial evidence, some of it desperately and hurridly surpressed like the Nazi SS's mad race once Austria fell
to German Occupation to track down and secure Hitler's Birth Certificate who is still rumored to this day to be the illigitimate Grand Child of a
prominent member of the German branch of the Rothschild Family where Hitler's grandmother worked in his home as a maid before having to leave his
employ after becoming pregnant while working in Baron's Rothschild home who had a reputation of being a notorious womanizer.
Though it is practically a cardinal sin because of Jewish/Israeli/Zionist politics to say though, there is a wealth of circumstantial evidence that
the Hollocust was in large part designed to give Jews, Hebrews and Zionists a compelling reason to move to Palestine and to limit the number of
immigrants from poorer less educated regions through their extermination.
The Rothschild Family better known as the house of the Dan in earlier times hailed originally from Norway. When Nazi Germany went to invade Norway,
it's troops camped out on Norway's coast for weeks as the country's Jews were given time to evacuate to neutral Switzerland.
Some might draw the conclusion that the Israeli/Zionist State and it's Zionist founders many of whom were actually declared athiests had no real
spiritual or religious ambitions in founding the modern State of Israel but purely Political ones.
Over the past 61 years as Israel became birthed and entrenched through terrorism, violence, and brutal suppression of the indigenous Arab peoples,
while brooking and tolerating little or any criticism or dissent in that process one might reach that conclusion that theirs is a Totaltarian
Authoritarian Fascist State as well the cooly and cruelly and very calculatingly capitalizes in every way off of the political machinations that have
caused a mass deception on the part of the spiritually inclined to not question or investigate certain ellements of history but to instead view a far
more sanitized version of history placing all things in a religious and spiritual context instead of a Political and factual Historical context.
Any satanist will tell you the Star of David which is actually the symbol of the House of Rothschild and has no relevance or history as being evident
in Biblical times the very same thing and devout and honest Orthodox Hebrew will, that it's a satanic symbol. It is why the Orthodox Hebrew are
exempt from compulsory Israeli Military Service as their actual scriptures forbid Hebrews from killing except when having a non-Hebrew do the murder
on their behalf.
While it is not politically popular and often invites angry reaction and accusation I would no more trust leading Zionists and Israelis to tell the
truth than I would trust leading American Families, Politicians, and Christian religious figures to tell the truth.
The fact is that a good portion of European Nazi's were sequestered out of Europe by the Vatican, a Vatican that had given all it's money to
Rothschild Banks at the beginning of that century to administer and invest their huge fortune.
No one tells the truth about all these events or speaks to these things honestly, and almost everyone involved hides behind something like a Bible, or
a Treaty, or a flase version of History to explain them away.
People of course are and should be free to draw and make their own conclusions but when one looks around at the state of the world today...where are
we really heading and how well is it turning out to overlook and pretend so much of our relevant and not to recent past wasn't was what it was for
the sake of other's ambitions, feelings and power, condemning us all to repeat history's mistakes?
[edit on 10/5/09 by ProtoplasmicTraveler]