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New York Charges Rent to Working Homeless

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posted on May, 9 2009 @ 07:00 PM
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New York Charges Rent to Working Homeless


www.nytimes.com

"Its not right, I pay my babysitter,I buy diapers, and I'm trying to save money so I can get out of here. I don't want to be in the shelter forever". said Ms Dacosta, single mother who also pays
100 dollars a week on child care.
She earns 8.40 an hr, and gives 336. of her 800 dollars per month to the shelter.
(visit the link for the full news article)




posted on May, 9 2009 @ 07:00 PM
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How is anyone in this position ever going to get out of the cycle of shelters and /or homelessness. I thought as I'm sure most people do the purpose of the shelters were to give people a Hand up, and not a Hand out. By taking up to 50% of their incomes , this is insureing that people will not be able to break the cycle. By taking any of the possible savings needed to attain a first/last months rent

www.nytimes.com
(visit the link for the full news article)



posted on May, 9 2009 @ 07:09 PM
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Well that's just wrong, come on now it's a damn shelter. It's there to help people get off their feet in order to be able to support themselves without the shelter.

If they are forcing working residents to pay them for staying there, then they are prolonging the commitment of those homeless. It will become routine to LIVE at the shelter even if you are working and making a good wage.

This kind of thing should be discouraged very strongly. I can understand them perhaps paying a small fee of some sorts for the food or supplies, however the ammount indicated is ridiculous.

It's perhaps incentive for them to actually find their own place to stay once they do find work, but at the minimum wage there aren't too many places that can easily be paid for by such a salary, especially with a child on the go as well.

Crooked and corrupt system strikes again.

~Keeper



posted on May, 9 2009 @ 07:29 PM
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Its almost like they want to keep the people using these resources down, there's no other way to explain this, or reason it



posted on May, 9 2009 @ 07:41 PM
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See, she's doing it the wrong way. She should sit on her butt and demand welfare from Mayor Blowhard, like so many of our illegals do! You have to know how to work the system or it works you!

Zindo



posted on May, 9 2009 @ 07:43 PM
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Unfortunetly she probably doesn't qualify anymore that she's shown she has the ability to work and find work.

The government will just tell her to keep what she's doing and she should be happy to have any sort of housing, for a modest fee ofcourse.

What crap..

~Keeper



posted on May, 9 2009 @ 07:46 PM
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Geez... welcome to America. They're going to get you one way or another. It's just how the place is.

I would imagine that with how the child support system works these days, that she should be collecting child support. I mean, if the guy doesn't pay, then he goes to jail in America.



posted on May, 9 2009 @ 07:48 PM
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Well someone has got to make up for the loss of revenue incurred when Rush Limbaugh (and many other wealthy people) left the city in protest of the outrageous taxes in NY.

You had to figure something like this was coming.



posted on May, 9 2009 @ 07:53 PM
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It's immorality at the extreme. New York is infested from bow to stern with the cancer that is the attitude of it's banking community... greed, immorality and unethical practices to the tenth power.



posted on May, 9 2009 @ 07:55 PM
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Originally posted by Albertarocks
It's immorality at the extreme. New York is infested from bow to stern with the cancer that is the attitude of it's banking community... greed, immorality and unethical practices to the tenth power.


I somehow feel attacked by that statement lol

~Keeper



posted on May, 9 2009 @ 07:59 PM
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It's disgusting to be charging such high rates when these people are struggling as it is!!!!!

Just what else could have been done with the $700 Billion they managed to magically find out of thin air???



posted on May, 9 2009 @ 08:02 PM
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This is just sad. There was a time in my past where I had to take advantage of a homeless shelter for parents. It was NOT pleasent and not something that I'd wish on anyone. However, it was FREE and they didn't charge me a penny for watching my children or feeding us when I was able to find work.

I know of plenty of shelters for single people who charge maybe a dollar a day if the person is working but is free if they can't find work.

But for ANY shelter to charge THAT much money is absolutly rediculous and they should have any funds they receive from the government and their "non-profit" shelter status taken away until they stop doing this. They are not a shelter if they're charging money to stay there. They are a hotel.



posted on May, 9 2009 @ 08:02 PM
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Originally posted by ZindoDoone
See, she's doing it the wrong way. She should sit on her butt and demand welfare from Mayor Blowhard, like so many of our illegals do! You have to know how to work the system or it works you!

Zindo


Someone must've seen her crack a smile.





posted on May, 9 2009 @ 11:48 PM
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Originally posted by tothetenthpower

Originally posted by Albertarocks
It's immorality at the extreme. New York is infested from bow to stern with the cancer that is the attitude of it's banking community... greed, immorality and unethical practices to the tenth power.


I somehow feel attacked by that statement lol

~Keeper


Why would you feel attacked by that statement? I wouldn't attack you... I actually agree with damn near everything I ever see you write.
If you're not careful, I might even start a tothetenthpower fan club.

[edit on 9-5-2009 by Albertarocks]

Geez... I'm an idiot. Now I see what you were getting at. LMAO

[edit on 9-5-2009 by Albertarocks]



posted on May, 9 2009 @ 11:58 PM
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Originally posted by Seany
reply to post by tothetenthpower
 


Its almost like they want to keep the people using these resources down, there's no other way to explain this, or reason it


More like they want to keep them dependent upon the system. Either way, this is wrong.



posted on May, 10 2009 @ 12:04 AM
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Originally posted by MegaCurious
Geez... welcome to America. They're going to get you one way or another. It's just how the place is.

I would imagine that with how the child support system works these days, that she should be collecting child support. I mean, if the guy doesn't pay, then he goes to jail in America.


Most deadbeats get away without paying. They arrest some, but most get away with it.

If she were to try and get child support, he'd probably be able to use the shelter against her and take her children away from her, making it even harder.

New York cost of living is high anyway. She'd be better off moving somewhere else.



posted on May, 10 2009 @ 12:15 AM
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I make no reservations. I'm not a culprit of personal irresponsibility.

I know when I'm not helping.

Someone has to pay for the homeless shelters...

It's either going to be the people who are using them...

... or the people who aren't using them.

Which one are YOU?

The minute the city creates a "homeless tax" which everyone pays is the minute you all scream some type of socialist conspiracy and blame it all on Obama.

Nobody likes socialism... that is, until they have to use it.



posted on May, 10 2009 @ 01:07 AM
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What is wrong with New Yorkers? What has caused them to not care about others, to allow greed to overcome the needs of families and those who are less fortunate than the corporate villians. I will stay in the south, thank you, where folks still believe in feeding the hungry, nursing the sick, and helping those who need help without placing them in a losing situation. I am in the hotel industry, and I have to say I have not met a 'nice' or even friendly person from New York, they all seem to have their noses too high in the air, and demand much more than any other customers do. Maybe all that traffic and noise,fake friends and lifestyles, and other greedy people who co habitat with them have just turned thier hearts to stone.



posted on May, 10 2009 @ 03:31 AM
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Originally posted by logician magician
I make no reservations. I'm not a culprit of personal irresponsibility.

I know when I'm not helping.

Someone has to pay for the homeless shelters...

It's either going to be the people who are using them...

... or the people who aren't using them.

Which one are YOU?

The minute the city creates a "homeless tax" which everyone pays is the minute you all scream some type of socialist conspiracy and blame it all on Obama.

Nobody likes socialism... that is, until they have to use it.


Most people are a paycheck or two from being homeless. Such taxes just help to ensure you'll have a cot to sleep on when you need one.



posted on May, 10 2009 @ 04:27 AM
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I was in exactly this position about three years ago....

I was made homeless through being made redundant, i went to the local council and declared myself homeless, here (near Edinburgh Scotland) they use bed and breakfast houses or private houses that are rented by the room to the council to help the homeless situation.....

Anyway I was given a room with two beds, I share custody of my son, the people who own the house charge the council £60 per night per bed, when i found myself a job i was told I would need to pay this myself, that's £840 a week plus council tax of about £100, there was room for ten people in this place, £8400 per week going straight to the owners....

as the job had a take home pay of £1000 per month I had to refuse the job.

the other thing that's wrong here is the discrimination shown to single fathers, I was in this place for a year ( i ended up borrowing money to get out) and it was only recently that i was given a council house, after three years registered homeless, during my time there girls in the same position as me, I.E. children staying part time, were housed within 6 weeks...

As I now work for Edinburgh council I know how many empty houses are laying empty, due to the council not having the money to do the repairs needed to bring them up to standard, personally I would have been happy to pay for this work myself if I was given one of these rent free until the work was completed, thus saving the council £ thousands, I'm sure others would feel the same

[edit on 10/5/2009 by whoswatchinwho]

[edit on 10/5/2009 by whoswatchinwho]




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