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Philadelphia Experiment - USS Eldridge Update

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posted on May, 9 2009 @ 06:11 PM
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Philadelphia Experiment

The "Philadelphia Experiment" was an alleged naval military experiment at the Philadelphia Naval Shipyard in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, sometime around 28 October 1943, in which the USS Eldridge was to be rendered invisible (i.e. a cloaking device) to human observers for a brief period. It is also referred to as Project Rainbow.

USS Eldridge (DE-173), a Cannon-class destroyer escort, was the only ship of the United States Navy to be named for John Eldridge, Jr., a hero of the invasion of the Solomon Islands. Its keel was laid down by the Federal Shipbuilding and Dry Dock Company in Newark, New Jersey. Eldridge was launched on 25 July 1943, sponsored by Mrs. John Eldridge, Jr., widow of Lieutenant Commander Eldridge, and commissioned on 27 August 1943 with Lieutenant C. R. Hamilton, USNR, in command.

Between 4 January 1944 and 9 May 1945, Eldridge sailed on the vital task of escorting to the Mediterranean Sea men and materials to support Allied operations in North Africa and on into southern Europe. It made nine voyages to deliver convoys safely to Casablanca, Bizerte, and Oran.

Eldridge departed New York City on 28 May 1945 for service in the Pacific. En route to Saipan in July, it made contact with an underwater object and immediately attacked, but no results were observed. It arrived at Okinawa on 7 August for local escort and patrol, and with the end of hostilities a week later, continued to serve as escort on the Saipan-Ulithi-Okinawa routes until November. Eldridge was placed out of commission in reserve 17 June 1946. On 15 January 1951 it was transferred under the Mutual Defense Assistance program to Greece, with whom it served as HS Leon. Eldridge was decommissioned on November 5th, 1992, and on November 11th, 1999, it was sold as scrap to the Piraeus-based firm V&J Scrapmetal Trading Ltd.
Partial Source.

There has been a few witnesses on Greek national TV mentioning they had seen the Eldridge in very poor and rusty condition at the ship scrap yard.
Some others have commented that it has been taken back by the US to be refurbished and used as a historical item or museum.

I consider the Philadelphia Experiment to be true and not a hoax for at least four reasons:

1. There were two many witnesses.
2. There were two many victims and people destroyed in one way or another.
3. The ships log (calendar) when received by the Greek Navy was missing all activity around 28 October 1943 as if nothing happened.
4. Nicola Tesla one of the leading scientist of the Philadelphia Experiment strongly objected people being on the craft since he new the consequences to livestock, as witnesses have reported.

The Philadelphia experiment was the forth in a row of experiments and the results were not anticipated. The Philadelphia Experiment was the first one to have the power generators on board, meaning within the field surrounding the Eldridge, rather than from an external source as previously practised.

Whatever happened to the boat and whether it has been used as scrap or shipped back to the US is something you might help me research/discover.

What i know is that along with Eldridge Greece got another ship named HS Aetos (HS Eagle in Greek). Some argue that the actual Philadelphia Experiment took place on HS Aetos. HS Aetos is refurbished today and back in the US where it serves as a naval museum after Greek politicians both in Greece and the US took action in saving it. I think at present its tied on the shores of a river of a major US city but i cannot recall the name. I will ad to this thread as i get more material but your help will be necessary and greatly appreciated.

[edit on 9/5/2009 by GEORGETHEGREEK]




posted on May, 9 2009 @ 06:20 PM
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There have been Greek witnesses serving on the HS Aetos reporting strange phenomena on the ships radar. As they recall they called at the captain who was mesmerised to be able to see nothing but wastness beyond the radar. The phenomenon subsided in a matter of about 45 minutes.



posted on May, 9 2009 @ 06:25 PM
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Originally posted by GEORGETHEGREEK The "Philadelphia Experiment" was an alleged naval military experiment at the Philadelphia Naval Shipyard in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, sometime around 28 October 1943, in which the USS Eldridge was to be rendered invisible (i.e. a cloaking device) to human observers for a brief period. It is also referred to as Project Rainbow.


I appreciate this story coming up again as it sucked me in way back when and has never entirely let me go. Mind you, this whole Montauk thing just messed it up...I've wondered if it is the flack generated to keep us from the real story...which is the basic one as told.

You got anything new, George, bring it on! Never heard the Greek connection before.



posted on May, 9 2009 @ 06:26 PM
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Not sure what I think about the so-called Philadelphia Experiment, or about Al Bilek for that matter.

Personally I tend to think it's either fantasy or some CIA-sponsored disinfo story, as ultimately time is relative -- you can't travel from a fixed point in time (1943) to another fixed point in time (1983) because there are only relative points in time, I think.

Anyway, here's an article that might be of interest: Philadelphia Experiment




posted on May, 9 2009 @ 06:41 PM
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hello and i'm glad you started a thread on this. i just seen "another" documentory on what happened concerning this project. i was thinking about it again, today after reading a similar thread. it seems this is still being experimented with. i also believe this happened, in almost every incident there is a colored mist, radio activity and sickness.



posted on May, 9 2009 @ 06:46 PM
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Nice avatar !

OK. What was mentioned by some credible physics scientist in Greece tonight is that the CERN project is part of the effort to overcome the Philadelphia Experiments ill effects. Well i guess it is in any case.
Science advances -> Military goes more sophisticated.
As if we humans needed the militia... Education and love would more than suffice.



posted on May, 9 2009 @ 07:37 PM
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I was a film believer of The Philidelphia Experiment for sometime. I'd have to say though, after quite a bit of extensive research, I'm very much in dout at the moment. Here is a great video on the subject. Most of you have probably already seen this, but if not- here is the "true" story of the philidelphia experiment. quicksilverscreen.com...
Honestly I'm not really sure what I believe anymore concerning this matter.



posted on May, 10 2009 @ 03:16 PM
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Originally posted by GEORGETHEGREEK

What i know is that along with Eldridge Greece got another ship named HS Aetos (HS Eagle in Greek). Some argue that the actual Philadelphia Experiment took place on HS Aetos. HS Aetos is refurbished today and back in the US where it serves as a naval museum after Greek politicians both in Greece and the US took action in saving it. I think at present its tied on the shores of a river of a major US city but i cannot recall the name.


Think this may be the Aetos you're speaking of. If so, unlikely it could be location of original experiment due to dates referenced.

HS Aetos

May as well put a link to the USS Eldridge, too. Just a bit of interest.

USS Eldridge

It is good to hear the Greek connection - I, too, was unaware of it.



posted on May, 10 2009 @ 03:39 PM
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Thanks for the update. Another point that I always find interesting in the documentaries that I've seen about the USS Eldridge is that the sailors always removed their watches and stored them together when the degaussing was operational. The Mysteries documentary did show clips of the ship in Greece.



posted on May, 10 2009 @ 03:42 PM
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nice set of wheels

there was a thread yesterday, an op was talking about having a high security clearance and how the military was still experimenting with making things invisable, well, he got debunked. some were pretty rough on him wanting proof, his military ID, DD14??, pictures etc..., the OP wasn't going to give that stuff out, actually i can't blame him.
i could imagine what my hubby would do if i put his military ID or even his job number on a site and then talk about his job
i am laughing at the thought of it, only because i never seen him exploding mad



posted on Dec, 1 2010 @ 03:09 PM
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Tim Ventura here, from www.americanantigravity.com... - I've added a number of links to new information on the Philadelphia Experiment & Nazi-Bell stories to the Wikipedia Entry under the "Alternative Theories" section. In short, a lot of new information is coming out about this story, including:

- Einstein's documented involvement, from his FBI file that places him in 1943 at the Philadelphia Navy Yard working on "a device to explode a torpedo under a ship"

- A detailed technical summary of how the Philadelphia Experiment might be recreated, published by James Corum: www.americanantigravity.com...

- The revelation that "Rhinehart" was in fact that name of a real scientist working at the Philadelphia Navy in '43, who specialized in Naval Degaussing Equipment (ie: big electromagnetic coils)

- Firm connections to the Nazi-Bell Project through Einstein's 1928 revision of the Unified Field Theory, which both the Allies & Axis had copies of (through Walther Gerlach, Nazi oversight for the Bell Project, who had helped Einstein vet the theory in the 20's).

- Engineering-level knowledge of Unified Field-Theory effects, as described by GE scientist Gabriel Kron, which could have easily been couple with Einstein's unfinished UFT.

- Knowledge of gas-plasma absorption of radar, which was later developed further by Northrup for inclusion in the B-2 bomber (NOTE: that this would almost have to be required for the B2, because even if the aircraft itself absorbed radar, the moving air around it would still reflect signals & show up on doppler radar. Radar-absorption of gas plasmas was also further researched during the space-program, as it is the reason that contact is temporarily lost with space capsules upon re-entry.)

A good resource to start with is "Einstein's Antigravity", atL
www.americanantigravity.com...

Thanks!

Tim Ventura
www.americanantigravity.com...



posted on Dec, 1 2010 @ 03:27 PM
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Originally posted by timventura
Knowledge of gas-plasma absorption of radar, which was later developed further by Northrup for inclusion in the B-2 bomber (NOTE: that this would almost have to be required for the B2, because even if the aircraft itself absorbed radar, the moving air around it would still reflect signals & show up on doppler radar. Radar-absorption of gas plasmas was also further researched during the space-program, as it is the reason that contact is temporarily lost with space capsules upon re-entry.)






Agreed.
The Russians have tested a plasma device aboard their Su-27 back in early 2000.
The original American patent was obtained by GE, back in 1956.

SnF for the OP.
Star 2U



posted on Oct, 29 2011 @ 09:16 AM
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Do all of you believe that this is fake. I am sorry to remind you about some thing, The gov lies. for about the censes count. to the ufo's. and to everythng else, like the planet headed towards earth. i mean they are lies.
and for this story about this ship. they want you to believe that it is fake. they hore people to post thing on the www. to get you to think its all a hoax.



posted on Oct, 28 2012 @ 06:17 PM
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the actual arial pictures of USS eldridge disappearing is in the movie "the orion conspiracy" at
6min 12seconds into the movie,

www.theorionconspiracy.com...



posted on Mar, 12 2013 @ 04:00 AM
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Hi,

My 1st post...

I came across this website/webpage by accident, yesterday via a YouTube search, no less. So, of course, me being a fan of the Jesse Ventura "Conspiracy Theory" TV show here in the USA, I did a search here for the "Philadelphia Experiment" . This thread is a bit dated; the other one I read here was dated 2006. But the subject is timeless.

I read the little paperback book concerning this subject by the author mentioned above. Seems to me the USA government wanted to discredit the people involved and the incident. The paranormal / UFO section in my public library is right next to the computer section. I am always intrigued by the paranormal and the declassified military / CIA subjects. I noticed the book and read it.

I have also read the Tesla biography by the lady author. Tesla's biography did not mention the "Philadelphia Experiment" or I do not remember it being mentioned. Tesla was a weird, strange guy. In my high school in the 1960's, the only thing mentioned about Tesla was the Tesla Coil. No mention of him establishing the AC electricity 60 Hz standard or building the Niagara Falls electrical generating plant. We were taught Marconi invented the radio; but the Supreme Court in 1943 said Tesla invented the radio solo!

The purpose of the "Philadelphia Experiment" was to degauss the entire ship making the hull anti-magnetic so magnetic mines would not be attracted to its hull. The ship had a big degaussing coil that it was to have passed through or the ship moved laterally the length of the ship through the coil. Raytheon Corporation ran the tests.

I looked into the subject and it is an interesting subject, but I got thinking this was probably make believe.

Then, a few years later I met a retired employee engineer that worked for Raytheon. He told me about his career with Raytheon refitting decommissioned USA Navy decommissioned ships sold to 3rd world countries or second class countries and refitting them with SONAR or RADAR equipment. About an hour into the conversation I remembered having read that Raytheon had something to do with the "Philadelphia Experiment". So I asked him, "Fred, do you know anything about the "Philadelphia Experiment" ? I mean---Wow! He got nasty at me even asking him that and reacted as is typical of the top secret stuff employees are not allowed to even acknowledge anything about top secret subject. I was USA Navy, I know the drill. And our conversation and "friendship" ended abruptly.

Well, after meeting Fred, I am a firm believer that the "Philadelphia Experiment" got into unknown scientific territory. The TV shows, "Time Tunnel" and the later, "Star Gate" are similarly themed. The subject is Top Secret---period. Probably some think tank type people have played with the technology at the engineering universities by military/government entities, but they would be sworn to secrecy or else dead or similar.

I have noticed to this website, material has vanished and links go nowhere, me researching this subject on your pages.

I know a guy that has a civilian, military job with access to not talked about stuff and he is not allowed to ever talk about his job. If people start asking questions, he reports them to the appropriate authorities and let them decide why the inquiring people need to know.

German WWII "Zero Point" experimental technology is a case in point. Undoubtedly after the war that subject was brought over to the USA. The Area-51 subject of nighttime observations of aircraft moving up and down and left and right very quickly and silently makes me believe the "UFO" stuff, at least in this case, is Zero Point technology and they are still working out the bugs.

Anyway, my two cents...

Fred is not his real name. I deliberately left Fred somewhat obscure as he is retired from Raytheon, if he is even still alive, and I do not want to jeopardize his well earned retirement. He did not tell me anything. But his reaction said it all.

Cheers



posted on Mar, 12 2013 @ 04:09 AM
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"The Philadelphia Experiment??? - GREEK!!"


Seriously, fun read... though my first reaction to the claim that it was not the same ship as traditionally believed is sceptical.... but it's a subject that always interests me!



posted on Mar, 12 2013 @ 06:19 AM
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Originally posted by elfie
Thanks for the update. Another point that I always find interesting in the documentaries that I've seen about the USS Eldridge is that the sailors always removed their watches and stored them together when the degaussing was operational. The Mysteries documentary did show clips of the ship in Greece.


It shouldn't come as a shock that crew watches were stored in protective containers during degaussing. Magnetic fields could (in fact, still can) damage a mechanical watch, and degaussing was nothing more than running a powerful magnetic field through the hull. Storing watches in shielded storage wasn't part of a conspiracy to keep the crew from timing something, or to keep them from documenting some sort of 'time slip'. It was a simple case of not wanting the crew to have to replace their watches.



posted on Mar, 12 2013 @ 06:56 AM
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Originally posted by GEORGETHEGREEK
Philadelphia Experiment



I consider the Philadelphia Experiment to be true and not a hoax for at least four reasons:

1. There were two many witnesses.
2. There were two many victims and people destroyed in one way or another.
3. The ships log (calendar) when received by the Greek Navy was missing all activity around 28 October 1943 as if nothing happened.
4. Nicola Tesla one of the leading scientist of the Philadelphia Experiment strongly objected people being on the craft since he new the consequences to livestock, as witnesses have reported.


I'll admit to being a skeptic about the Philadelphia Experiment for a variety of reasons. I would like some clarification on the points you mentioned above, if you don't mind.
1) Too many witnesses? The accounts I can find seem to all have factual errors, or are, at best, second-hand accounts. Could you provide a link or links to some of the body of witnesses?

2) Similar to "1", above. Every account I've seen that mentions casualties seems to be second hand. Can you provide a source?

3) Missing entries from the ship's log? Oddly enough, the USS Eldridge's TROM (Tabular Record Of Movement...it's a log of every time the ship is moved, whether it's an around-the-world cruise, a combat deployment, or a simple move from one pier to another) is available if you're willing to fill out the paperwork, and willing to read through it, and it doesn't have any gaps during the period specified. It seems odd that the log wouldn't be updated, but the TROM would be. Can you cite a source for this?

4) Nikola Tesla would've had a hard time expressing any objections to a test done in October of 1943 unless there was a Ouija board handy....he'd moved on to the Great Laboratory in the Sky in January. Is there some supporting documentation for his objections?




Whatever happened to the boat and whether it has been used as scrap or shipped back to the US is something you might help me research/discover.


My pleasure. Per the Dictionary of American Naval Fighting Ships, and corroborated by what I can find from the United States Naval Institute (hereafter, DANFS and USNI to save my fingers
), The USS Eldridge (DE173) was laid down on 22 Feb, 1943, launched on 25 July, 1943, decommissioned on 17 June 1946, struck from the rolls on 26 March, 1951, and purchased by the Royal Hellenic Navy on 15 January, 1951. She remained in Greek service as Leon until decommissioned on 15 November 1992, and sold to V&J Scrap Metal Trading on 11 November, 1999.

There were three other Cannon-class ships sold to Greece:
Eagle (ex USS Slater, DE-766) was returned to the US and currently a memorial ship in Albany NY.
Hawk (ex USS Ebert, DE-768) was returned to the US and expended as a target in July of 2002
Panther / Panthir (ex USS Garfield Thomas, DE-193) was struck from the rolls in 1992 and may be laid up in Souda Bay, Crete.

Based on that info, the Eldridge doesn't seem to have been an unlucky ship, or one the Hellenic Navy was in any real hurry to dispose of. She seems to have had a career very similar to her sister ships, which, while not a conclusive proof that there was nothing special for good or ill about her, is at least an indicator that such might be the case.



posted on Mar, 16 2013 @ 01:19 PM
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Similar claims have been made about the Croquanna experiments in the 40s. Something I am TOTALLY well-versed in. There have always be very thick coincidences between Croquanna and Philly Ex that my friends have toiled over, but we always seem to let them slip away or move on to something more fun to research. I think the Wikipedia page for Montauk even mentions Croquanna.

Honestly, I'd leave Philly Ex to fiction. There's not enough to put a thorough assumption or conclusion together about the subject.

Same with Croquanna. I know someone did a short doco a few years back, but apparently that was HEAVILY fiction-laden.


EDIT: LINK
edit on 16-3-2013 by Croquanna402 because: LINKAGE



posted on Mar, 16 2013 @ 06:34 PM
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Originally posted by Croquanna402
Similar claims have been made about the Croquanna experiments in the 40s. Something I am TOTALLY well-versed in. There have always be very thick coincidences between Croquanna and Philly Ex that my friends have toiled over, but we always seem to let them slip away or move on to something more fun to research. I think the Wikipedia page for Montauk even mentions Croquanna.

Honestly, I'd leave Philly Ex to fiction. There's not enough to put a thorough assumption or conclusion together about the subject.

Same with Croquanna. I know someone did a short doco a few years back, but apparently that was HEAVILY fiction-laden.
Too bad...I've been working my way through the thread. Where is the film available?

Philly Ex? Not convinced it's all Bravo Sierra, though.



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