Woman is denied from using rainwater off her own roof!, page 2
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reply posted on 9-5-2009 @ 08:38 PM by questioningall
reply to post by dodadoom



That is one of the most outrageous things and I can not believe it is in the United States. I knew down in S.A. a country (forgot which one) had sold their water rights and people are not allowed to collect water in any way. Including when it rains, by scooping it off the ground. But in Colorado?

People in that area - need to stand up regarding this issue - that is crazy!



reply posted on 9-5-2009 @ 08:46 PM by xoxo stacie
reply to post by dodadoom



We had a similar case here in Northern California, but after much anger expressed by her community over the "ticket" and refusal to allow her to continue her educational organic garden they backed off.
She and her husband are teacher's and turned their whole plot and home into a self sustaining green home. They allow anyone who would like to learn various forms of green living and gardening to come on in any day of the week. Most of the children in the area thought they where weird till they took the time to stop in now they themselves are growing gardens in the same manner! It is really cool to see someone teaching children something that has been lost to time and over growth in cities.
They grow some of THE best herb's etc. and some of the finer restaurants in the area pay well to get them. The last I heard they where doing fine and where using the money earned to make booklets for kids and their parents.


reply posted on 9-5-2009 @ 09:01 PM by tothetenthpower
reply to post by incoserv



It's not so much about stupidity then it is about blind obedience and greed by friend.

Humans by nature are inquisitive, intelligent creatures. Were just easily led, gullible and a little conceded.

~Keeper



reply posted on 9-5-2009 @ 09:05 PM by ZindoDoone
reply to post by tothetenthpower



Not me!!!! I'm a mean nasty curmudgeon who thinks for himself. Even if I have to argue with myself I never let myself lead me into trouble!! Ya, sure I do!! Five out of six voices in my head tell me I"m right!!

Zindo


reply posted on 9-5-2009 @ 09:10 PM by AlienChaser
reply to post by ZindoDoone


"Greenploitation" = the exploiting of ignorance to make billions! Yup sounds about right!!


Monthly Statement
Solar use..........$158.84
Sunny days Tax.....$ 67.98
Rainwater used.....$104.45
Raindrop tax.......$ 86.93
Air used...........$102.45
breathing tax......$ 56.02

Greenploitation, yes I think that's it, Greenploitation!

the sad thing is that you are right, there is no technology that will lower the cost to the consumer. They are turning the act of living into a taxable event. It is clear that the government believes that everything, including nature and the cosmos, belongs to them and exists only so that they can either sell it back to the living or tax us for it's use. Everything exists to generate a revenue stream (< ha) for them. Money money money money money. The root of all evil. Truly!


reply posted on 9-5-2009 @ 09:23 PM by AlienChaser
reply to post by woogleuk


Over here in the UK we are charged for the water that lands on our roofs and goes down the drain (a lot of residential people dont know this as it only appears on business bills, although joe public still gets charged), however, if we collect it, like people do in their gardens in them big blue drums, you can be fined for stealing off the water company.


So, let me get this straight.

If it rains you will be charged, no matter what?
Either through rain tax or fined for stealing, hmmm

SOunds like something the American government will think is a great idea. I can see our reps now, huddled in the entryway to congress. The corporate vultures drooling at the widows of their highrise penthouses. All their eyes focused on the same thing. Rainclouds.


reply posted on 9-5-2009 @ 09:30 PM by ZindoDoone
reply to post by AlienChaser



Read about Carol Browner, Amigo. Her ideas will scare the living crap out of you. This woman is another megalomaniac in her zeal to control everything in nature for the "Good of the Children". Like children are the real reason when she is heavily invested with GE who controls like 80% of the Green tech and options on much of the rest of the Green tech inventions in the world.

Zindo

[edit on 5/9/2009 by ZindoDoone]


reply posted on 9-5-2009 @ 09:37 PM by muzik
Originally posted by dodadoom
Incredible! Is this what its coming too? Poor lady, she just was
doing the right thing! Who do they think they are and who do they think
owns the rain and where do they think it comes from?
God in heaven! Oh,..the arrogance!
They have no right! (Unless they pay for the roof!)
All she wants is the rain water that lands on her roof. She lives with her husband and two children in a solar-powered home in rural San Miguel County. Committed to promoting sustainability, Kris Holstrom grows organic produce year-round, most of which is sold to local restaurants and farmers markets. On a mesa at 9,000 feet elevation, however, water other than precipitation is hard to come by. So Kris did what thousands of farmers before her have done: She applied for a water right. Except instead of seeking to divert water from a stream, she sought to collect rain that fell upon the roof of her house and greenhouse. To her surprise, the state engineer opposed her application, arguing that other water users already had locked up the right to use the rain. The Colorado Water Court agreed, and Kris was denied the right to store a few barrels of rainwater. If she persisted with rain harvesting, she would be subject to fines of up to $500 per day.
www.wildlifemanagementpro.com...
Gets crazier every day! No, being crazy may take a permit somewhere in the future!
What, taxing mud puddles? Is that what we've become now? Are we that desperate?
www.ens-newswire.com...
In Colorado, water rights laws severely restrict rainwater harvesting -- a property owner who captures rainwater is effectively stealing it from those who have rights to take water from the watershed.[20]
en.wikipedia.org...


LOL who owns the rainwater then?
"a property owner who captures rainwater is effectively stealing it from those who have rights to take water from the watershed"
This is idiotic...


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