9/11 FLIR Infrared Camera proves NIST and 9/11 Commission Lies, page 2

reply to post by viperdave

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Everybody forgot about the election of 2000? Since when?

In addition, I do not accept this "camera" shot as proof. No chain of custody....no confirmation of any kind that it is an actual shot taken that day and not a photo shop job done with an internet photo at a later date.

[edit on 9-5-2009 by Swampfox46_1999]

reply to post by viperdave

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from the first moment the pics of the beams cut on an angle were shown i said the exact same thing. when first cut the building would have fell only quarter inch straight down into the angular receiver that was created when thermite cord cut the beams on the box core and special if not most all the rest of the verticle beams,leaving only enough to stop the building from shifting.

Originally posted by pteridine
reply to post by TrueAmerican

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The IR camera is measuring skin temperature, not fire temperature in the building.

Hmmm skin temp at 220 degrees ? Doubt it.

reply to post by LucidDreamer85

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Why would you doubt a skin temp of 220, assuming that the camera was properly operated?

reply to post by spy66

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Yes, these systems would match the destruction theory i described above your post; such a theory would finally be less paranoiac and quite possible than any other around, while keeping the terrorist attack itself a fact of its own, but not exactly related to the collapse.

My first reaction when i saw the towers coming down each the same way, in the same timing, was that terrorists couldn't have expected such a perfect result. Too much random parameters here : airplanes angles and height, different fuel amounts dispersed differently, fires acting out of control, random damages etc.

Both collapses were too identical and perfect to allow so much different factors; thus, a self-destruct system should be the cause, but mainly for planned insurances reasons, and nothing else. Greed. Not really a conspiracy but a shame nonetheless.

Does this hold water ?

reply to post by allclear

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i find it normal that mods are specially watching for trolls in the threads discussing the the biggest controversy of modern times ... so i wouldn't argue that, i simply discuss the topic.
if you have no intention of acting jerk, you shouldn't be afraid by the forum's rules, are you ?

reply to post by LoneGunMan

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Thanks for replies folks. So Lone, is the above poster correct in saying that the FLIR measures skin temperature, and not the fire temperature? That doesn't seem right to me. The camera shots are of the opening where the fire was raging. I just want to clear that up please.

FYI, the "forum under scrutiny warning" is simply due to all the heated arguments and personal attacks that occur in this forum. It is not a place for the thin-skinned. It has nothing to do with the government watching the thread or anything like that.

It should be noted that in the video the narrator points out that these FLIR images were given to the 911 Commission, and like so much other important evidence, were omitted from the final report. Since they cherry picked what was to be in the report, it is not a bad idea to look close and hard at what was omitted from the report. This includes Norman Minetta's testimony of the Cheney stand down order, the issue of WTC7, and the hundreds of reports of secondary explosions from firefighters themselves.

Think about it. If you committed a crime and had the chance to triage the information included in a report about the crime, you would omit anything that led in the direction of conviction.

For many other omissions see this or get the book (David Ray Griffin):

reply to post by tezzajw

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I totally agree. He won't accept these shots as genuine, but we are supposed to blindly accept FDR data from Flight 93 and 77, for example. Ahh, no. It becomes amusing to watch, really- all the attempted damage control occurring here and everywhere. 911 was too ambitious a plan. It was doomed to discovery from the start. Too many holes. Too many sharp eyes out there.

The success it has achieved for the perpetrators is temporary. And the people taking payment from the government to intentionally achieve damage control through more lies and denials ought to be skinned alive right along with the rest of them. They have no shame, and no doubt a lot of sleepless nights.

Edit to add:

Originally posted by X_Brap_X
to suggest 9/11 was an inside job is incredibly insulting to most people including myself.

Yeah well to suggest 9/11 was anything other than an inside job just shows your ignorance of all the available information on the subject. It's ok, you'll get it one day, if you care to look that is.

[edit on Sat May 9th 2009 by TrueAmerican]

reply to post by X_Brap_X

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to suggest 9/11 was an inside job is incredibly insulting to most people including myself.

Obviously, you have not research 911, one only needs to do a little research to see the American people were lied to in every single event that happened that day. You don’t have to take my word for it or anyone else’s in that matter, however, I think you would take the word of scientists that have proven what we were told was indeed lies. Good luck on your research.

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