The NBA Fix, page 1


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Topic started on 8-5-2009 @ 11:51 PM by NovusOrdoMundi
I knew going in to the Los Angeles-Houston series what was going to happen. Actually, I knew going in to the playoffs what was going to happen. Anyone who pays attention would too.

Coming in to the 2009 playoffs, one need only look at the top Eastern Conference team and the top Western Conference team, then recognize who both teams' star player is, to figure out who would be playing in the finals.

That's because the NBA is a business first and a basketball league second. Just imagine the money a Kobe vs LeBron NBA Finals would generate. How could you possibly pass that up if you're the NBA?

The fix has been on in the NBA for a while. That's why I can't take it seriously. And that's why I'm not upset about what is going on in the Los Angeles-Houston series despite my obvious hometown emotional investment in the series. I'm just not surprised by what is happening.

Game 1 Houston shocked Los Angeles and probably the NBA as well. That explains why Joey Crawford was given Game 2. Game 2 was garbage and I won't even bother going in to it.

Here in Game 3, the officiating was alright for the most part, but then Artest gets ejected for a regular foul that you see every game. How is that a Flagrant 2 and what Sasha Vujacic did to Von Wafer is only a foul? The fix is on. That's obvious no matter what happens with the review of Artest's foul on Pau Gasol. But if his Flagrant 2 isn't reversed, it'll be blatantly obvious.

Why doesn't the NBA just take a look at the teams over the summer, decide which two they want to play in the finals that particular year, then just play a seven game series and save us a lot of time and drama? Don't even play the regular season or the playoffs. Just go straight to the finals.

I expect to get a flood of Laker fans here. I don't expect much agreement from them about the fix. Why go against the flow when it favors you, right? But hopefully there can also be some intelligent discussion of the fix being on.

[edit on 5/9/09 by NovusOrdoMundi]


reply posted on 25-5-2009 @ 09:17 PM by JacKatMtn
reply to post by djvexd



The calls..... are the key..

But WHO is behind them?

MJ got the extra step when he was MONEY....

traveling? Not MJ... same with King James...

Though he might get 2 extra steps now and then

It's not the same NBA I loved way back when...


reply posted on 25-5-2009 @ 09:30 PM by JacKatMtn
reply to post by chissler



Psst... you have to watch the WHOLE season...

Preferential treatment of the NBA stars, is not a media creation..

WHO created it? WHO stands to GAIN from it?

It is old news, and it might have been going on when I was an NBA fan for all I know..

It just is a little TOO obvious for me at the moment, so I may hold a grudge


Disclaimer: I have NO dog in this hunt

Just observing

Carry on, and Good luck to those with a dog in the hunt


reply posted on 27-5-2009 @ 07:35 AM by Karlhungis
reply to post by chissler



Lebron took about 5 steps on that travel call. The ref's had no choice but to call it. The guy travels all the time but it needs to be VERY blatant before the officials will call it.

I agree with the OP. The fix is in in the NBA. It isn't just preferential treatment for the superstars, it is manipulation trying to get a desired outcome. The people behind it can't be very happy with Orlando. Call all the fouls you want, but they keep hitting the 3's. If they go cold from behind the arc, the desired outcome happens and we get to see Lebron and Kobe.

I very well could be overly paranoid, but I think objectively looking at the game without any real ties to any team involved and you can see it happen. When they let one team maul the other without calling fouls and turn around and call every ticky-tack foul on the other, they are steering the outcome.

Let's not forget that it wasn't very long ago that a ref in the NBA was arrested for fixing games. I seriously doubt that he was alone.


How can you NOT call that?


[edit on 27-5-2009 by Karlhungis]


reply posted on 30-5-2009 @ 05:39 AM by NovusOrdoMundi
reply to post by chissler



The NHL, in my opinion, has the best officiating in sports. MLB has iffy strike zones sometimes, but it's hard to really fix a baseball game. The NFL used to have good officiating but it is starting to look like it is heading down the path of the NBA.

So when I accuse the NBA of being fixed, this isn't something I see in every sport. In the NBA, it's like they don't even try to hide the fact that their officiating is intentionally terrible. At times it's so blatant that you can't help but laugh, even if it's against your own team.

Now, the NBA can't completely fix a game. I realize that. Things happen; the teams they favor can go on cold streaks. The teams they don't can go on hot streaks. All the touch fouls in the world can't undo that, and in the end, the favored team has to do something with the opportunities given to them. But simply because the scoreboard may not reflect the fix doesn't mean the fix wasn't on. A perfect example of that is Orlando is up 3-2 over Cleveland.

On another note...

Denver sucks.

Isn't it funny how the Jazz are allegedly so great...then they get knocked out in 5?

And the Nuggets are some force to be reckoned with in the West...then they get knocked out in 6?

But the Rockets - a team without Yao Ming, Dikembe Mutombo, and Tracy McGrady - beat a Trail Blazers team everyone expected to easily advance to the second round and took a supposedly 'loaded' Lakers team to 7 games, and they're labeled as 'weak' and an 'average' team by NBA "experts"?

The Rockets were the most undermanned team in the Western Conference playoffs this year, and they gave the Western Conference champs the most trouble. How can anyone honestly say they aren't that good of a team?

This is why I can't stand listening to these so-called "experts" on ESPN. They jump on bandwagons and don't look at the facts.
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