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Originally posted by BingeBob
reply to post by Miraj
Then an M1 carbine...HA "Let me just run out to the local gun shop and pick up an M1 in great condition"
Springfield M14...Yeah nice to have but how many people do you know that will have a sufficiently upgraded M14 that wants to get it dirty...and look at ammo availability...(i know all ammo is tough to get but you can still score AK ammo if you know where to look)
Originally posted by ProjectJimmy
reply to post by BingeBob
Who was forcibly taken in Katrina? The only people who's guns were taken away was those that went to the FEMA shelters, and that was a matter of needing their help, so taking their terms. That's the point of survivalism, being able to take care of yourself and others in a crisis, especially to the point where you do not have to accept other's terms in order to do so.
If you wanted to stick out Katrina, you could, up to the point you called it quits and needed help. A survivalist could hopefully make it through something like that and not need to be rescued or put in a shelter, hence you wouldn't need your gun on any other people aside from looters perhaps.
I fear this attitude of wanting revolution, or war, or conflict, that seems to be cropping up more lately. People it seems have started to glorify battle, and really prepare like they want it. War is ugly, nasty and will scar everyone. Armed conflict is never a desirable solution, and is instead an option of last resort. Even in cases where it is absolutely needed, and there have been many of those cases, it's very important to remember what happens in war: Human beings, that love and think and feel the same as you, suffer and die horribly.
There is also the issue that no matter how many weapons, how much ammo and how good the armor, that the people that go against the government will die. Look at Waco, Ruby Ridge, gang warfare and the gangsters of prohibition to show it. In the end I believe that we need to figure out ways to avoid these conflicts, conduct change without blood, because in the end the odds are that it will be the militia that does not survive.
Originally posted by ProjectJimmy
reply to post by Miraj
Absolutely nothing wrong with that in my book. I'd be right there with you!
Originally posted by ProjectJimmy
reply to post by BingeBob
That entry was incredibly dishonest, it skirted many of the principal facts on the ground, and spoke in very vague overall terms. "...we will take all weapons." was in the context of the Superdome site, not the city overall. Disarming any American city is insane and probably completely impossible. There were many many problems during Katrina, but it was absolutely nothing that could not be withstood through careful planning and preparedness on the part of the individual. The video in that post was produced by the National Rifle Association, and is quite alarmist. Honestly though having the NRA do a video about the evil of government gun control is like having Hitler do a movie about Jews, it's not exactly a fair thing.
This is fear mongering, pure and simple. If one wonders why there is this growing anti-government fear out there it's because of stuff like this. As I said before, armed resistance is futile, disturbing and morally disgusting. If you want change, demand it with peaceful means. We've seen how to do this already, the Civil Rights Movement, India's independence, and the end of Apartheid were all brilliantly done largely peaceful movements. By picking up a gun with other options left, you are just asking for them to be used against you.