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Topic started on 8-5-2009 @ 11:16 AM by burntheships
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EU wants 'Internet G12' to Govern Cyberspace
euobserver.com
 The European Commission wants the US to dissolve all government links with the body that 'governs' the internet, replacing it with an
international forum for discussing internet governance and online security.
The rules and decisions on key internet governance issues, such as the creation of top level domains (such .com and .eu) and managing the internet
address system that ensures computers can connect to each other, are currently made by the Internet Corporation for Assigned Names Numbers.
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reply posted on 8-5-2009 @ 11:16 AM by burntheships
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Here we go! The internet G12! Everything in the news lately has been pointing at this, an internet entirely governed and censored by TPTB!
EU information society commissioner Viviane Reding has suggested a new model for overseeing the internet from October 2009, that is when the Commerce
Department agreement runs out.
She is calling on Obama to to fully privatise ICANN and set up an independent judicial body, which she describes as a "G12 for internet
governance," ...a "multilateral forum for governments to discuss general internet governance policy and security issues."
euobserver.com
Hummm this sounds strangly like the G20 Economic Summit wording and point 19!
It is coming folks, I tell you it is afoot!
Senators John Rockefeller (D-W. Va.) and Olympia Snowe (R-Maine) think so. On Wednesday they introduced a bill to establish the Office of the
National Cybersecurity Advisor—an arm of the executive branch that would have vast power to monitor and control Internet traffic to protect against
threats to critical cyber infrastructure. That broad power is rattling some civil libertarians.
The Cybersecurity Act of 2009 View a PDF of Bill gives the president the ability to "declare a
cybersecurity emergency" and shut down or limit Internet traffic in any "critical" information network "in the interest of national security."
The bill does not define a critical information network or a cybersecurity emergency. That definition would be left to the president.
The bill does not only add to the power of the president. It also grants the Secretary of Commerce "access to all relevant data concerning
[critical] networks without regard to any provision of law, regulation, rule, or policy restricting such access." This means he or she can monitor or
access any data on private or public networks without regard to privacy laws.
www.informationliberation.com...
The alternative to mainstream media, which is the Internet, is by definition untrustworthy because it doesn't have gatekeepers. It lends
itself not to imagined corruption, but to real corruption. Ironically, the continual distrust of our supposedly unreliable mainstream media has given
us a new media that is, by its very definition, unreliable.
www.wfs.org...
The future of the internet, according to author and “web critic” Andrew Keen, will be monitored by “gatekeepers” to verify the accuracy
of information posted on the web. The “Outlook 2009″ report from the November-December issue of The Futurist reports that,
“Internet entrepreneur Andrew Keen believes that the anonymity of today’s internet 2.0 will give way to a more open internet 3.0 in which third
party gatekeepers monitor the information posted on Web sites to verify its accuracy.”
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(visit the link for the full news article)
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reply posted on 8-5-2009 @ 11:19 AM by binkatonka
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what exactly does this mean ?
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reply posted on 8-5-2009 @ 11:28 AM by burntheships
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It boils down to this: the future of the internet, will be monitored by “gatekeepers” to verify the accuracy of information posted on the web.
End of free speech, the end of uncensored posts, the end of blogs....etc. Everything will be controlled by the Goverments.
www.wfs.org...
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reply posted on 8-5-2009 @ 11:33 AM by andy1033
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They cannot stop emails can they.
Its going to be interesting what they can actually do. We seen from the recent thing in mexico, even the bbc where duped by people that pretended to
be from mexico, and they put info on there site.
So will the bbc be censored, who knows. So they should remember even the bbc is putting out false info on things like the swine flu. So how do they
control everything?
What in the real world can they really do, can any technical person clarify for us.
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reply posted on 8-5-2009 @ 11:36 AM by Foppezao
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has it actually come into you that this ment for traffic logistic s and against cyberwarfare hackers, crackers&whizzkids? free speech is still one if
not the most important right in this part of the world ..and the European Parliament is also a guard on that(voting next month)
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reply posted on 8-5-2009 @ 11:44 AM by burntheships
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Edit to add: Yes, they can censor and even block e-mails. AOL has been caught doing it already. Proof I
suspect AT&T (Proof) (More
Proof) has done it also, based on personal experience. So the answer unfortunately is yes!
There are ways to restrict the access to the internet, and anything beyond that. I am sure that they will suck the IP providers into this...as we have
already seen most of the big ones experimenting with "metered" usage.
This might explain what they are planning to do:Article published by the Futurist
In his new book, The Cult of the Amateur, (Currency, 2007) blogger and Internet entrepreneur Andrew Keen explores today's new participatory Internet.
He argues that too much amateur, user-generated, free content is threatening not only mainstream media—newspapers, magazines, and record and movie
companies—but our very culture. We asked Keen what today's Internet trends mean for the future of our increasingly Web-driven society.
Question
THE FUTURIST: Summarize the basic premise of your book for us; what do you see as the great danger in the way the Internet is allowing millions of
content creators to undermine established media?
Answer
The relationship between the rise of new media and the crisis of old media is causally complex. It would be a dramatic oversimplification to
argue that the only reason mainstream media is in crisis is because of the Internet. They are intimately bound up with one another and are cause and
effect, in some respects. But people stopped trusting and reading newspapers before the invention of the Internet. People, particularly in the U.S.,
have problems with all sorts of authority, with or without the Internet. It's a reaction against cultural authority.
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reply posted on 8-5-2009 @ 12:19 PM by burntheships
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I have heard many reports from users here on ATS that the E.U. already censors the internet. While we may not know exactly how...it is pretty simply
done.
For example, in this case it is done on the servers. If it can be done here in the U.S. it can be done anywhere!
My Space Censors Prision Planet
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reply posted on 8-5-2009 @ 12:22 PM by Helig
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It would be far easier to just not let people on the internet than it would be to verify the information posted. Think of the number of posts made to
ATS on a daily basis:
New posts: Past 24 hours: 4,980
New posts: Past 7 days: 32,901
New posts: Past 30 days: 141,329
Just shy of five thousand posts in 24 hours, now apply that to the many communities out there, then add in blogs, facebook, myspace, orkut, twitter,
flickr, etc. Then you have youtube's comments, and other such side tracks of information. There is simply not enough money floating around to staff
an organization to be 'gatekeepers' to verify information posted on the internet. Chances are this is nothing more than twisted quotes taken way
out of context, I mean how much faith can you put in the information spouted on Infowars of all places?
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reply posted on 8-5-2009 @ 12:36 PM by spystalker
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this is interesting. controlling .com domains would be a difficult time for us. what if they block for instance ATS domain website from people like
us?
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reply posted on 8-5-2009 @ 12:37 PM by burntheships
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This article is actually in the
euobserver.com... PP just did a write up on it. The actual ICANN agreement will expire this October 2009. There will be some new
contract...and the E.U. and President Obama have both set the stage for a takeover. Preident Obama already has this in the works.
Senators John Rockefeller (D-W. Va.) and Olympia Snowe (R-Maine) think so. On Wednesday they introduced a bill to establish the Office of the
National Cybersecurity Advisor.....
The Cybersecurity Act of 2009 (PDF) gives the president the ability to "declare a cybersecurity emergency" and shut down or limit Internet traffic
in any "critical" information network "in the interest of national security." The bill does not define a critical information network or a
cybersecurity emergency. That definition would be left to the president.
The bill does not only add to the power of the president. It also grants the Secretary of Commerce "access to all relevant data concerning
[critical] networks without regard to any provision of law, regulation, rule, or policy restricting such access." This means he or she can monitor or
access any data on private or public networks without regard to privacy laws.
www.informationliberation.com...
ATS is a perfect example of "user generated content" and exactly the kind of content that would be first on the list.
Let's not be naive about this. I am wondering if the bailouts woke anyone. up. Does anyone really think the Govemment will let you know ahead of time
that they are planning to censor the internet? Hummmm........
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reply posted on 8-5-2009 @ 01:12 PM by wonderworld
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I can see this coming, especially since the next G20 summit is in September 2009 and they want to impliment this in October of 2009.
It sounds like another Obama treaty is coming. First one on gun control with Mexico now this.
We are entering a new era!
I dont like feeling helpless. It's not my nature but these things seem beyond our control.
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reply posted on 8-5-2009 @ 01:19 PM by FrankWhite222
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Any measures to do this could easily be defeated.
The internet savvy people in China have been getting around this for a long time.
The easiest way is to use a proxy somewhere in the world that does not block content. Here is a funny one, not sure where it is located though
boratproxy
If you want to get more techical, you can open an SSH session to a remote server in say Uganda and then tunnel all browser traffic throught the
encrypted tunnel.
Very similar to a VPN.
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reply posted on 8-5-2009 @ 01:28 PM by binkatonka
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if they want to control .coms can the domians just transfer to dot something else ?
or does it not work like that ?
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reply posted on 8-5-2009 @ 01:33 PM by burntheships
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It seems near certain now. I know there are ways around some of this...but it is looking like "they" may even attempt to make it an act of terrorism
to have your own servers to circumvent the "GovernNet"
As with the Patriot Act that opened this can of worms up, the threat of inprisionment does wonders for squelching the voices of the people!
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reply posted on 8-5-2009 @ 01:35 PM by autsse
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This will not happen. The internet was developed here, sorry chaps. The EU(etc) has been wanting us to give up control for some time, this is not
new. Everytime we tell them to shove off. I expect nothing but more of the same.
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reply posted on 8-5-2009 @ 01:50 PM by DGFenrir
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National security. Been hearing these two words a lot lately.
All they do is national security this and national security that..
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reply posted on 8-5-2009 @ 01:54 PM by googolplex
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Yes i agree the internet was invented in the US if the EU wants to control something let them start there own system.
The internet is about the only freedom left if they do take control the end is near, for freedom of anyhow.
It would seem almost impossible to set up something like internet free world, like radio free europe back in WWII.
I heard Rockefella? wants to get rid of internet, maybe be better to get rid of Rockefella donw load him to other side of moon and erase all files,
destroy link.
To me the internet is greatest thing to happen for the people of late, now they want to control it, and the EU in gereral didn't like the Nazis, they
are the Nazis. Control freaks, why fix something that I can't see is broken.
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reply posted on 8-5-2009 @ 02:46 PM by burntheships
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Scanning the headlines with the search term being:
EU wants 'Internet G12' to govern cyberspace
No less than the first three pages on google are compised of this headline only.
www.google.com...
This is indeed an outrageous move on the part of the E.U. Only thing is I have a well founded suspicion that President Obama might cooperate.
Jimmy Carter gave away the Panama Canal, I can see Obama handing over the internet!
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reply posted on 8-5-2009 @ 04:30 PM by burntheships
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