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Canada - Time to get out of NATO?

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posted on May, 14 2009 @ 10:05 PM

Originally posted by Ellirium113
Do not forget Canada is STILL a BRITISH COLONY and we will do whatever the British royals decide, like it or not.

Very close to the truth.

Close to the truth is not the truth.

Nevertheless....we need to stay in NATO.

Canada has never been an entity unto itself.

posted on May, 15 2009 @ 01:37 AM
The real question is:

Canada - time to melt away?

posted on May, 15 2009 @ 12:50 PM
Irina Kadzhaev, political scientist:

Under the new realities, Georgia’s war against South Ossetia may easily turn into NATO’s war against Russia. This would be a third world war.

posted on May, 26 2009 @ 09:35 AM

by NATO Secretary General Jaap de Hoop Scheffer to the Inter-allied Confederation of Reserve Officers at NATO HQ

Today, I don’t believe it is in any Ally’s interest, neither militarily nor economically, to keep armed forces solely for the territorial defence role. So it will be necessary to get the right balance between the two requirements and develop the forces and capabilities that have the flexibility and adaptability to operate across the full spectrum of military operations, from crisis management and peacekeeping through to war fighting.

Finally, training and capacity building are two fields where NATO expertise is actively, and increasingly, being requested. We have been supporting the African Union for several years by providing specific training for their staff officers, and we have gained considerable experience in Iraq, where we have been training and educating their national security forces. In light of these successes, and looking to the current needs in Afghanistan, NATO Heads of State and Government agreed last month to establish a NATO Training Mission in that country. We are now busy here implementing that Summit decision. So whether it be in Afghanistan, or elsewhere, I predict that training and education will become an ever more important field of activity for NATO armed forces, including for you, the reservists.

Do they talk about peace sometimes?

posted on May, 26 2009 @ 09:45 AM
Secretary General visits Norway and addresses NATO parliamentarians

“I see three major challenges for our Alliance – challenges that to a considerable extent will define NATO’s future; and challenges that also demonstrate the crucial role of our parliaments. If I were asked to label these challenges, I would call them the solidarity challenge, the challenge of institutional cooperation, and the resource challenge”.

posted on May, 26 2009 @ 09:51 AM
I reccomend this read:

by NATO Secretary General Jaap de Hoop Scheffer at the meeting of the NATO Parliamentary Assembly, Oslo, 26 May 2009

NATO’s developing relationship with Russia is the final major issue that must be addressed in a new Strategic Concept. Clearly, effective cooperation between NATO and Russia is essential for addressing many of the common challenges we face – from stabilising Afghanistan to countering terrorism and WMD proliferation. But Russia currently appears to perceive that the West, and notably NATO, does not take fully into account its security concerns. This is a perception that needs to be tackled – both by NATO and by Russia. As NATO Allies, we should use the work on a new Strategic Concept to foster a clear consensus on how we want to engage with Russia, and how we can give further substance to our relationship.

posted on Jun, 2 2009 @ 08:32 AM
NATO arrived in Quebec
(Traduction from Google Translation)

Original in french here:

(Quebec) Quebec is on a war footing with the visit this week of a general forty countries of the Treaty Organization (NATO). An opportunity to take stock and to express the role that each state has to perform in the future.

General Andrew Leslie, commander of land forces of Canada, was honored yesterday for the choice of Quebec City as host of this annual meeting. "NATO shows its responsibility and its admiration for the soldiers from Quebec who have participated and still participating in the mission in Afghanistan, and he has shown leadership," he said.

If Afghanistan is a must for this conference, it will not be at the heart of the discussions. In this 60th anniversary of the founding of the organization, which groups 28 countries, it's time to take stock for the leaders of armies. They will discuss the perception of the role that everybody expects to play in the future and their concerns.

For Rémi Landry, military analyst at the University of Montreal, they may seek to look at the organizational structure of the armed forces in a context where the nature of war is changing. "It is now of inter-state conflicts and it requires resources and different strategies," he says. It is also the fact that some countries do not always seem to want to invest as much as in some other conflicts. This is the case of Germany in Afghanistan, which put off to commit its troops in combat zones.

High Security

It was the battle yesterday afternoon at the Chateau Laurier hotel where the leaders of armies are housed and held their discussions behind closed doors. While the Quebec Police restricted traffic on the street outside the hotel, a team of explosives experts from the Sûreté du Québec was conducting checks on the inside. A dog was also on site.

The majority of participants arrived yesterday evening at the Jean Lesage Airport to board a military plane. National Defense will obviously assist in the logistics of the meeting, which ends Thursday. Moreover, many unmarked vehicles belonging to National Defense, were stationed outside the hotel. During the week, he will get used to seeing police escorts accompany the generals in their movements.

This meeting comes exactly two months after the NATO Summit held in Strasbourg, France 3 and 4 April and attended by Heads of State.

One of the main topics on the agenda was to Afghanistan in the context where the President of the United States, Barack Obama, decided to send 17 000 soldiers and 4,000 additional instructors. The total number of U.S. troops is increased to 68 000.

In November 2006, Quebec hosted the 52nd session of the Parliament Assembly of NATO, which included some 300 elected officials in Europe and North America. The topic of the day was ... Afghanistan. At that time, the Vice-Chairman of the Assembly, Senator Pierre Claude Nolin, said it had increased from 15 to 20% the quota of 18 000 soldiers while deployed in the country, specifying that the war effort will not have to come from Canada.

See this thread for more specific information about Quebec city and it's role.

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