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reply posted on 8-5-2009 @ 12:01 PM by nunya13
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Thank you for these pics. They are very, very touching.
I don't think anyone would argue that the majority of our troops are sadistic jerks. I believe the majority of them are decent, compassionate human
beings and don't go looking to hurt anyone.
However, with that being said, the problem is the troops that join the military purely because they are sadistic jerks and give the troops who are
there for good reasons a horrible name.
It's just like all the posts talking about policeman. They aren't all bad but the fact is that the ones that are give all the rest of them a bad
name.
I personally believe the main problem lies in those good service people--whether they be in government, the military, or our peace keeping
forces--aren't willing to stand up against the ones giving them all a bad name.
If more of them were willing to "rat" them out, those bad apples wouldn't stand a chance or even bother. Part of the problem is that these people
feel they have a certain loyalty owed to their colleagues and that "ratting" them out is "bad form".
I think quite the opposite. You aren't loyal to anyone person in your brotherhood/sisterhood, if you will. You have a responsibility to be loyal to
the brotherhood/sisterhood itself and if you aren't willing to defend the integrity of said brotherhood/sisterhood then you are no better than the
people desecrating that integrity.
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reply posted on 8-5-2009 @ 12:12 PM by SilentRunning
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From our "Stupid-Jokes-Dept.", another proof of a misleading thread.
Huge, useless "interesting/uninteresting" discussion ensues.
I wanted to reply with a two-liner, but i have more.
I feel pwn3d exactly the same way when i look misleading YouTube videos, this is dishonest and should be sanctioned by a warning from the mod : more
and more threads here start the same and this practice should cease, whatever the OP's celebrity.
As a mod I would either order the title to be changed or simply close the thread, as it does not deserve any *Above Top Secret* interest at all.
Sorry to be so negative but I am looking for *really* interesting stuff here, not "look what i've done mom" subjects, and this one is a pollution.
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reply posted on 8-5-2009 @ 12:13 PM by poedxsoldiervet
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Originally posted by star in a jar
Originally posted by poedxsoldiervet
reply to post by king9072
You say the wars overseas are illegal prove it? Here is my proof that the war was justiifed by the senate.
www.senate.gov...
You're not serious, are you?
The US government invaded Iraq on false pretenses and fabricated intelligence.
They went there for the money and oil and to appease the Israeli right wing lobby and the Military-Industrial Complex.
Wow, guess there's still people in America who think the criminals that make up the US congress is good and holy and can do no wrong
There was no False pretense for going there. King George had the receipts for the WMDs left over from the Regan Era. As well as the Gas Attacks on
US forces during operation Desert Shield.
Do you have proof of that the war was for OIL and the Military Industrial Complex? Anybody can spout off lies and rumors, your know better the Geroge
Bush. At least he had some proof of evidence.
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reply posted on 8-5-2009 @ 12:15 PM by poedxsoldiervet
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You know you didn’t have to read it all the way through. I believe the OP did a wonderful Job illustrating to the Die America Crowd and America
Fail crowd here on ATS. So its a good thing your not a MOD.
Wonderful Job Op.
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reply posted on 8-5-2009 @ 12:21 PM by ReagrahamLincool
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Originally posted by MajesticJax
Thought I would share these disgusting examples of our Troops and their abusive tactics:
Oh, so very "witty" of you.
Before anyone replies that these are obscure and rare examples, U2U me, I've got about 500 more I've collected.
500!, nice I guess those smiling US troop pics excuse the troops who do this.
and this
and this
and this
and this
I could literally keep going all day and into tomorrow however the mere thought that my tax dollars are paying for this sickens me so much.
Before you say, "don't blame the troops" remember that OUR TROOPS load the bombs, fly the bombs, and drop the bombs. MAN HAS FREE WILL. Disobey a
direct order and goto prison forever, so be it. THOU SHALT NOT KILL.
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reply posted on 8-5-2009 @ 12:25 PM by 420prajna
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Ok, who gave the Iraqis the weapons of mass destruction during the Reagan era? We did ! Also, the UN weapons inspector, Hans Blix, I believe his name
is, confirmed, after an exhaustive investigation, confirmed there were no weapons! Also, the reason there was a conflict between the CIA and the Bush
admin is because the admin bullied them into writing a false report about yellow cake...Powell resigned in shame because he realized he had provided
false information to the UN.
There were wmd in Iraq previously, but that wasn't the reason that we invaded, it was supposed to be because there were WMD at the time of the
invasion, which there werent.
The proof that the war was for oil is that most of the people on Bush's cabinent were in the oil industry, inculding Bush himself...also the proof
that there was war profiteering is obvious...Bechtel, Blackwater and Halliburton profits skyrocketed.
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reply posted on 8-5-2009 @ 12:30 PM by Astarfaraway
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Thank you so much for this thread. Thank you so much for these photos.
We, and the rest of the world, SO need to see this now, after the current accusations against our troops in Afghanistan,
read here.
Great job :-)
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reply posted on 8-5-2009 @ 12:41 PM by ReagrahamLincool
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reply posted on 8-5-2009 @ 12:41 PM by jd140
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I see alot of soldier bashing on this thread.
While it kind of irritates me, I really don't care what you think about us. You are the minority and only spout your hatred behind a keyboard.
The anti war crowd deserves alot more respect from you guys. Not because you are trashing the troops, it is because they don't hide behind a keyboard
while they protest them.
Why don't you take a page out of their book and stand outside a military post and picket against the troops? Why don't you stand outside anywhere
and protest?
I'm sure you will get a visit from more then one soldier, marine, AF and Navy personnel. They can tell you why they go and do what they do. Just
give them an oppurtunity.
I dare you guys to grow a pair and protest against troops outside, away from your keyboard. Get your face out there and really stand up for what you
believe.
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reply posted on 8-5-2009 @ 12:43 PM by poedxsoldiervet
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You know a lot of people here and around the world complain about a lot of stuff America does wrong and how bush lied and on and on. But I do not see
or hear a one of you do anything about it but complain. When has this country turned into Frenchmen? Let’s cry about known bad dudes getting
waterboarded and how there Human rights were violated. How about you cry for the 4thousand plus Americans and then thousands of Collation (including
the Free Iraqi Army and Police) Who have died because of these people.
Yes some GIs have done some heinous things and ever damn one of those cowards were sent to prison for very long times. Yes Innocent Iraqi and Afghan
Children have been Killed By American Bombs and American Bullets (this truly sucks I have laid awake for nights thinking about the children killed, I
have seen war and It sucks.) But I can tell you with 100% confidence that the Innocent people who have died was do to two things (excluding the
minuscule deeds of horrible American troops) Enemy forces were hiding in there general area or holding them hostages.
Some of the pictures showed by people in this thread (Minus the OP) how many of these photos of American troops doing these things? You just show
photos not of American boys and girls doing these things it’s easy for car bombs to go off and kill dozens and be made to look like Americas
fault.
Fix the system or shut the hell up.
Wonderful Job OP.
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reply posted on 8-5-2009 @ 12:43 PM by ReagrahamLincool
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reply posted on 8-5-2009 @ 12:47 PM by poedxsoldiervet
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Where did you get those photos from? I wonder who really lives in a cnn distorted veiw and crop'd clips
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reply posted on 8-5-2009 @ 12:50 PM by jd140
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Originally posted by ReagrahamLincool
reply to post by jd140
You are clearly living in a Fox News Fantasy Land full of fake polls, cropped clips and distorted facts.
Thanks for the insult.
Doesn't change anything I said in my post that you ignored.
I'm sure you will keep dodging it with more name calling and acting as if you are more intelligent.
That doesn't bother me either. Dodge all day, the post will still be there.
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reply posted on 8-5-2009 @ 12:54 PM by 420prajna
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I dont think it is soldier bashing per se. One, criticizing the war is not criticizing soldiers. Two, soldiers are just human beings and a human in a
corrupt situation will probably become corrupt himself.
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reply posted on 8-5-2009 @ 12:57 PM by tombangelta
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do you have images of the 1,000,000+ that have died since our occupation.
just wondering.
No amount of hugs and kisses will justify what we have done to that country.
just my opinion.
over and out...................
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reply posted on 8-5-2009 @ 12:59 PM by poedxsoldiervet
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Originally posted by tombangelta
do you have images of the 1,000,000+ that have died since our occupation.
just wondering.
No amount of hugs and kisses will justify what we have done to that country.
just my opinion.
over and out...................
Show me the proof that 1,000,000 have died. From A reputable sources not some far left smear website.
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reply posted on 8-5-2009 @ 01:00 PM by 420prajna
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reply to post by poedxsoldiervet
I dont think it matters if 1,000,000 or 10,000 have died in the occuptation, it's still wrong.
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reply posted on 8-5-2009 @ 01:06 PM by poedxsoldiervet
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Yes it does matter, Lies are lies regardless of how you say them. 1,000,000 sounds horrific compared to 10,000, now doesnt?
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