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posted on May, 7 2009 @ 05:57 PM
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Originally posted by blupblup

Why did you say "skeptics" when you really meant "atheists"

Are you really a troll?


Why are you so focused on semantics???


Troll? No I'm too fat...




posted on May, 7 2009 @ 05:59 PM
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No, you are not troll, you have been here long enough to prove that troll you are not.




posted on May, 7 2009 @ 05:59 PM
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Originally posted by OldThinker
I have 40 threads started...you?


I have started about 7....

And TBH i don't bother anymore.

People only seem interested in hoaxes and argumentative crap similar to those you put out.

Oh and I'm better than you... na na na na na na.....


Great mentality you have there








99percent of them are positive....I'm not the initiator of arguing....not me.


I used to quite like your threads... i think i was naive though..... i see the game you play... you like to be the victim... the "i only started this lovely holy thread"....butter wouldn't melt crap.

You like to cause trouble and divisions.
It's right there in line 1 of your OP.




What do you think I'm doing young man?


As above...

I think you're making ignorant threads, with the sole purpose of segregating the religious and non-religious in to groups so you can bash them and feel superior and feel good about yourself.


Pathetic



posted on May, 7 2009 @ 05:59 PM
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Originally posted by Deaf Alien


Remember separation of state and religion?


nah....didn't see that in the constitution, you?

Just checked the decl of independence...not there either...


help me out here



posted on May, 7 2009 @ 06:00 PM
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Originally posted by OldThinker
Why are you so focused on semantics???

Troll? No I'm too fat...


OK....so how come you muslims like to start these threads huh?

I think you may be a troll ya know...


(well if skeptics are atheists then christians are muslims right?)

[edit on 7/5/09 by blupblup]



posted on May, 7 2009 @ 06:00 PM
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Originally posted by marg6043
reply to post by OldThinker
 


No, you are not troll, you have been here long enough to prove that troll you are not.




thx hon'''

You doing alright?

OT


Trolls hide right? this internet-thang is worldwide right?



posted on May, 7 2009 @ 06:02 PM
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Yes I been doing fine, been on the market thread a lot, that is why I post what I did, indeed Obama is going to need a lot of prayer.



posted on May, 7 2009 @ 06:04 PM
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Originally posted by blupblup


Oh and I'm better than you... na na na na na na.....


Great mentality you have there

[


Better...no.

Wiser...yes!

Give it some time....you will see...maybe a few decades...life will teach you what you refuse to learn from (humble) OT....that's me....

OT



posted on May, 7 2009 @ 06:05 PM
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Originally posted by marg6043
reply to post by OldThinker
 


Yes I been doing fine, been on the market thread a lot, that is why I post what I did, indeed Obama is going to need a lot of prayer.


I HEAR YOU!!!!!

I just sent him a note thanking him for the proclamation....He is doing a great job



posted on May, 7 2009 @ 06:06 PM
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Originally posted by OldThinker

Originally posted by Deaf Alien


Remember separation of state and religion?


nah....didn't see that in the constitution, you?

Just checked the decl of independence...not there either...


help me out here


Um


The separation of church and state is a legal and political principle derived from the First Amendment to the United States Constitution, which reads, "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof . . ." The phrase "separation of church and state" is generally traced to an 1802 letter by Thomas Jefferson to the Danbury Baptists, where Jefferson spoke of the combined effect of the Establishment Clause and the Free Exercise Clause of the First Amendment. It has since been quoted in several opinions handed down by the United States Supreme Court.[


en.wikipedia.org...



posted on May, 7 2009 @ 06:07 PM
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Originally posted by OldThinker
Better...no.

Wiser...yes!

Give it some time....you will see...maybe a few decades...life will teach you what you refuse to learn from (humble) OT....that's me....
OT





Wow....hows your ego there bud?
It must need massaging right?

Wiser....


All your "wisdom" comes from one book mate..... that's not wise.... that is the polar opposite


but yeah.... i bow down to you oh mighty OT, please teach me your wisdom...

Oh, and I'm not a kid BTW.



posted on May, 7 2009 @ 06:07 PM
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Originally posted by blupblup

Originally posted by OldThinker
Why are you so focused on semantics???

Troll? No I'm too fat...


OK....so how come you muslims like to start these threads huh?

I think you may be a troll ya know...


(well if skeptics are atheists then christians are muslims right?)

[edit on 7/5/09 by blupblup]



Seriously, how do you get stars the second you post?

OT (needing stars
:lol



posted on May, 7 2009 @ 06:08 PM
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Originally posted by blupblup


(well if skeptics are atheists then christians are muslims right?)




what!!!!!!!!!!


Explain.....

OK

OT (me)



posted on May, 7 2009 @ 06:10 PM
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Originally posted by Deaf Alien

Originally posted by OldThinker

Originally posted by Deaf Alien


Remember separation of state and religion?


nah....didn't see that in the constitution, you?

Just checked the decl of independence...not there either...


help me out here


Um


The separation of church and state is a legal and political principle derived from the First Amendment to the United States Constitution, which reads, "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof . . ." The phrase "separation of church and state" is generally traced to an 1802 letter by Thomas Jefferson to the Danbury Baptists, where Jefferson spoke of the combined effect of the Establishment Clause and the Free Exercise Clause of the First Amendment. It has since been quoted in several opinions handed down by the United States Supreme Court.[


en.wikipedia.org...



aaaahhhhhh....

oookkkkkkkk?

relevance?

You are elevating that document to the Const and Dec of Indep.?????


Come on now....have you seen?

Patrick Henry:
"Orator of the Revolution."
• This is all the inheritance I can give my dear family. The religion of Christ can give them one which will make them rich indeed.”
—The Last Will and Testament of Patrick Henry

“It cannot be emphasized too clearly and too often that this nation was founded, not by religionists, but by Christians; not on religion, but on the gospel of Jesus Christ. For this very reason, peoples of other faiths have been afforded asylum, prosperity, and freedom of worship here.” [May 1765 Speech to the House of Burgesses]

“The Bible is worth all other books which have ever been printed.”

John Jay:
“ Providence has given to our people the choice of their rulers, and it is the duty, as well as the privilege and interest of our Christian nation to select and prefer Christians for their rulers.” Source: October 12, 1816. The Correspondence and Public Papers of John Jay, Henry P. Johnston, ed., (New York: Burt Franklin, 1970), Vol. IV, p. 393.

“Whether our religion permits Christians to vote for infidel rulers is a question which merits more consideration than it seems yet to have generally received either from the clergy or the laity. It appears to me that what the prophet said to Jehoshaphat about his attachment to Ahab ["Shouldest thou help the ungodly and love them that hate the Lord?" 2 Chronicles 19:2] affords a salutary lesson.” [The Correspondence and Public Papers of John Jay, 1794-1826, Henry P. Johnston, editor (New York: G.P. Putnam's Sons, 1893), Vol. IV, p.365]

Thomas Jefferson:
“ The doctrines of Jesus are simple, and tend to all the happiness of man.”

“Of all the systems of morality, ancient or modern which have come under my observation, none appears to me so pure as that of Jesus.”

"I am a real Christian, that is to say, a disciple of the doctrines of Jesus."

“God who gave us life gave us liberty. And can the liberties of a nation be thought secure when we have removed their only firm basis, a conviction in the minds of the people that these liberties are a gift from God? That they are not to be violated but with His wrath? Indeed I tremble for my country when I reflect that God is just, and that His justice cannot sleep forever.” (excerpts are inscribed on the walls of the Jefferson Memorial in the nations capital) [Source: Merrill . D. Peterson, ed., Jefferson Writings, (New York: Literary Classics of the United States, Inc., 1984), Vol. IV, p. 289. From Jefferson’s Notes on the State of Virginia, Query XVIII, 1781.]

Samuel Johnston:
• “It is apprehended that Jews, Mahometans (Muslims), pagans, etc., may be elected to high offices under the government of the United States. Those who are Mahometans, or any others who are not professors of the Christian religion, can never be elected to the office of President or other high office, [unless] first the people of America lay aside the Christian religion altogether, it may happen. Should this unfortunately take place, the people will choose such men as think as they do themselves.
[Elliot’s Debates, Vol. IV, pp 198-199, Governor Samuel Johnston, July 30, 1788 at the North Carolina Ratifying Convention]

James Madison
“ We’ve staked our future on our ability to follow the Ten Commandments with all of our heart.”

“We have staked the whole future of American civilization, not upon the power of government, far from it. We’ve staked the future of all our political institutions upon our capacity…to sustain ourselves according to the Ten Commandments of God.” [1778 to the General Assembly of the State of Virginia]

• I have sometimes thought there could not be a stronger testimony in favor of religion or against temporal enjoyments, even the most rational and manly, than for men who occupy the most honorable and gainful departments and [who] are rising in reputation and wealth, publicly to declare the unsatisfactoriness [of temportal enjoyments] by becoming fervent advocates in the cause of Christ; and I wish you may give in your evidence in this way.
Letter by Madison to William Bradford (September 25, 1773)
• In 1812, President Madison signed a federal bill which economically aided the Bible Society of Philadelphia in its goal of the mass distribution of the Bible.
“ An Act for the relief of the Bible Society of Philadelphia” Approved February 2, 1813 by Congress

“It is the mutual duty of all to practice Christian forbearance, love, and charity toward each other.”

• A watchful eye must be kept on ourselves lest, while we are building ideal monuments of renown and bliss here, we neglect to have our names enrolled in the Annals of Heaven. [Letter by Madison to William Bradford [urging him to make sure of his own salvation] November 9, 1772]

At the Constitutional Convention of 1787, James Madison proposed the plan to divide the central government into three branches. He discovered this model of government from the Perfect Governor, as he read Isaiah 33:22;
“For the LORD is our judge, the LORD is our lawgiver,
the LORD is our king;
He will save us.”
[Baron Charles Montesquieu, wrote in 1748; “Nor is there liberty if the power of judging is not separated from legislative power and from executive power. If it [the power of judging] were joined to legislative power, the power over life and liberty of the citizens would be arbitrary, for the judge would be the legislature if it were joined to the executive power, the judge could have the force of an oppressor. All would be lost if the same … body of principal men … exercised these three powers." Madison claimed Isaiah 33:22 as the source of division of power in government
See also: pp.241-242 in Teaching and Learning America’s Christian History: The Principle approach by Rosalie Slater]

James McHenry – Signer of the Constitution
Public utility pleads most forcibly for the general distribution of the Holy Scriptures. The doctrine they preach, the obligations they impose, the punishment they threaten, the rewards they promise, the stamp and image of divinity they bear, which produces a conviction of their truths, can alone secure to society, order and peace, and to our courts of justice and constitutions of government, purity, stability and usefulness. In vain, without the Bible, we increase penal laws and draw entrenchments around our institutions. Bibles are strong entrenchments. Where they abound, men cannot pursue wicked courses, and at the same time enjoy quiet conscience.

Jedediah Morse:
"To the kindly influence of Christianity we owe that degree of civil freedom, and political and social happiness which mankind now enjoys. . . . Whenever the pillars of Christianity shall be overthrown, our present republican forms of government, and all blessings which flow from them, must fall with them."

John Peter Gabriel Muhlenberg
In a sermon delivered to his Virginia congregation on Jan. 21, 1776, he preached from Ecclesiastes 3.
Arriving at verse 8, which declares that there is a time of war and a time of peace, Muhlenberg noted that this surely was not the time of peace; this was the time of war. Concluding with a prayer, and while standing in full view of the congregation, he removed his clerical robes to reveal that beneath them he was wearing the uniform of an officer in the Continental army! He marched to the back of the church; ordered the drum to beat for recruits and over three hundred men joined him, becoming the Eighth Virginia Brigade. John Peter Muhlenberg finished the Revolution as a Major-General, having been at Valley Forge and having participated in the battles of Brandywine, Germantown, Monmouth, Stonypoint, and Yorktown.



posted on May, 7 2009 @ 06:12 PM
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Originally posted by blupblup

Originally posted by OldThinker
Better...no.

Wiser...yes!

Give it some time....you will see...maybe a few decades...life will teach you what you refuse to learn from (humble) OT....that's me....
OT





Wow....hows your ego there bud?
It must need massaging right?

Wiser....


All your "wisdom" comes from one book mate..... that's not wise.... that is the polar opposite


but yeah.... i bow down to you oh mighty OT, please teach me your wisdom...

Oh, and I'm not a kid BTW.



there you go again a STAR...the second you post....

OT perplexed????



posted on May, 7 2009 @ 06:12 PM
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Are you honestly asking that question..?

Why am i bothering.

You wrote

Originally posted by OldThinker
Skeptics, are you upset President Obama believes in prayer?


I replied with

Originally posted by blupblup
What the hell has believing in prayer got to do with Skepticism???


and


Originally posted by blupblup
Shouldn't it be Atheists?
As i said....what the hell has skepticism got to do with god?




You said it was just semantics....

So my tongue-in-cheek reply was to say

Originally posted by blupblup OK....so how come you muslims like to start these threads huh?


Do you see.... it was a cheeky response to your semantics response.

Man..... you can't be serious can you?




[edit on 7/5/09 by blupblup]



posted on May, 7 2009 @ 06:14 PM
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Originally posted by OldThinker

there you go again a STAR...the second you post....
OT perplexed????


Dude.....who cares about stars???

Focus on the topic... actually answer.
Or will it be like last time..... you will leave because you have nothing to say....nothing of value and nothing that isn't divisive.

Man.... you're hilarious.



posted on May, 7 2009 @ 06:18 PM
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Originally posted by blupblup

Originally posted by OldThinker
Better...no.

Wiser...yes!

Give it some time....you will see...maybe a few decades...life will teach you what you refuse to learn from (humble) OT....that's me....
OT





Wow....hows your ego there bud?



Did you ignore my key point? yep....

Hey let's check back in 2020...ok?

You see my bible says....James 1:6-8
" 6 But let him ask in faith, with no doubting, for he who doubts is like a wave of the sea that is driven and tossed by the wind. 7,8 For that person must not suppose that a double-minded man, unstable in all his ways, will receive anything from the Lord."


OT (me) not a double-minded man....I've prayed you come to the Lord Jesus....it will happen...you will see...after it does U2U and I'll show you next steps...


OT waitin....




posted on May, 7 2009 @ 06:20 PM
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Originally posted by blupblup

Originally posted by OldThinker

there you go again a STAR...the second you post....
OT perplexed????


Dude.....who cares about stars???

Focus on the topic... actually answer.
Or will it be like last time..... you will leave because you have nothing to say....nothing of value and nothing that isn't divisive.

Man.... you're hilarious.



you must you got TWO on that post already



posted on May, 7 2009 @ 06:21 PM
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Originally posted by OldThinker
Did you ignore my key point? yep....
Hey let's check back in 2020...ok?



No, I really didn't.

It's just that you quoted one sentence from my reply...my answer was at the bottom

"oh, and I'm not a kid by the way"

So age doesn't come into it.

Ignorance does..... and you are, at the moment, the epitome of ignorance.





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