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posted on May, 7 2009 @ 05:59 PM
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No problem Sha...Let the good times roll...no place like home...




posted on May, 8 2009 @ 11:01 AM
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Originally posted by booky
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Oh no, I am no sheeple. I get an update from my congressman every month and made hundreds of calls to senators and state reps..they all listen..but none act..My goal is to vote all of them out of office..

I was the founder of CBSLA (Citizens for a better State of Louisiana), and you could not get people off the sofa..now they are pissed...and it is growing. Look out.



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[edit on 7-5-2009 by booky]


Good for you, seriously. I tried to find a webpage for your organization but could not find one. Can you provide more information?



posted on May, 8 2009 @ 11:06 AM
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Originally posted by ratcals

Originally posted by fraterormus

Originally posted by BombeniWhy would anyone be motivated to get themselves off welfare with a setup like that?


Yup, it sounds like the same reason behind those who go into the Military or go to College.

Mommy and Daddy provided them with free Room & Board & Car & Insurance & Education & Allowance all of their life. When it came time for them to make it on their own they got scared and chose one of three routes where they could have the same koosh setup...Military or College or Welfare.

And those that never grow up stay in the Military until retirement so that they can be taken care of, or stay in College all of their lives getting multiple degrees, or live off Welfare while they pump out the kids.



Well, Im not entirely sure how you made that association. You group college, military and welfare all in one basket. But I will tell you this for free as I assume you have never served a day in your life. Military is anything but welfare. You have a job and you get paid for it. You are sworn to defend the constitution of the USA against all enemies foreign and domestic. You have to be prepared to give your life to protect the freedoms of narrow minded people such as yourself. While you stand back here in the comfort and safety of your freedom of speech. You know, the exact same freedom of speech the military is out to protect.

Choosing to stay in the military long enough to retire has nothing to do with the security. It has to do with duty and honor to our country. What, if anything, have you done to show your patriotism to this great country? How can you possibly equate that to someone on welfare. One who sits around for years on end on their lazy @ss doing nothing. I’ve never heard of anyone on welfare deploying for six or more months at a time. Living in the most austere conditions. Under constant threat of being attacked by the enemy. Being thousands of miles away from home while their wife gives birth to their child.

As a military veteran of 23 years I take great offense to the assumptions you have made here. First off I had a rather crappy home life when I was growing up. Both my parents worked but they were horrible parents. Secondly being retired from the military doesn’t mean you are “taken care of”. Not sure what you mean by that but if you mean I collect a pittance of a pension every month then I suppose I am taken care of. My retirement doesn’t even come close to covering my mortgage. I still hold a full time job.

I’m not complaining though. I am glad I joined the military. It taught me things you can never understand. Nor will you ever. So you sit back and enjoy your freedoms and complain about the ones being taken away while you do NOTHING to help stop it other than whine like a little sniveling little snot here on this forum.



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What's the matter fraterormus or should I call you Mark- you got nothing to say?



posted on May, 8 2009 @ 11:34 AM
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I don't know what is worse, assisting people that through their own devices they cannot help themselves and then continuing to assist because they refuse to use the help to get out of the situation, or seeing brand new homes that were being torn down because the greedy banks could not sell them instead of possibly donating them or giving them away, the world is messed up on many levels.

If a child is brought into the world because of circumstances or ignorance fo the parents it is not their fault, if there are ways and means to assist a child to have a good family unit and the tools they need to try and move up the ladder, ie college, the military or whatever I am all for it, too many people focus on what they see, they focus on the fortunes or misfortunes of others and tend not to see things which are unseen.

I am against anyone that repeatedly gets themselves into situations to either stay on public assistance or welfare or any other fraudulent activities, however, in some instances people do need help, even people that had a job in this economy have fallen back, had to go to the soup kitchen etc....so please do not think everyone is getting over or getting something for nothing, what you see is all you may know and that is not the right way to form a general opinion on anything.



posted on May, 9 2009 @ 10:53 AM
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My organization does not exist anymore due to lack of interest of people...10 yrs ago..However, looks like people are starting to get enough of this corruption and want a change that you can rely on ..



posted on May, 10 2009 @ 10:00 PM
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Abolish the minimum wage. A lot of things that people complain about are impossible to correct as long as we have a minimum wage.

Jobs being outsourced? The minimum wage artificially places the price of labor above what the market would dictate. This means that companies don't hire you.

Illegal immigrants "taking" jobs? The minimum wage artificially places the price of labor above what the market would dictate. This means that, if you want the job, you have to work illegally (and illegal immigrants just happen to get the most attention).

Welfare annoy you? The minimum wage artificially places the price...broken record, I know. This means that companies will spend money to outsource or automate, because it's cheaper than paying you to fill up a customers soda cup at McDonalds. The contraction of the job market means that we need welfare programs for the millions of people who have no chance of finding a job, due to the impossibility of full-employment.

Of course, nobody wants to get rid of the minimum wage. We want high-paying jobs to magically appear, regardless of what the free-market wants, because we're Americans and we therefore deserve it.

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