Alex Jones explodes at Noam Chomsky, revealing his insanity!

"Say hello to Rockefeller for me!".

I listened and I'm still not sure where AJ discredited himself. Sounds more like Chomsky discredited himself.

Thanks for posting that, I'd never heard that interview before.

Peace

Originally posted by WWu777

Originally posted by Common Good
I dont see what the big deal here is OP.
He just callin it as he sees it.
"Sounds to me like youhave some hateful grudge against the Soggy Bottom Brothers"

W: So you think AJ is justified in calling Chomsky a "NWO shill" just because Chomsky disagrees that guns are on the rise in the UK? Isn't that overstepping big time? That's clearly a sign of paranoid delusion.

Chomsky is far more credible, intellectual and level headed than AJ, and has a far better reputation too.

what is this? your current version of M.U.S.C.L.E men rubber toy figurine brawling match for this stage of your life?

why don't you set up a Bookie to start taking bets?

ooh ooh it's no longer the left-right paradigm it's the soothsayer-vs-soothsayer deathmatch! we've evolved to the truest form of infighting!

praise be.

they're both HUMAN. they both have 'things' to say, they both 'report' on current and past events.
it's their opinions they're squabbling about.
'credibility' isn't something you just negate or bless upon someone.
being a 'nutjob' isn't something anyone with a brain broadly strokes over someone's complete life work.

if your aim is to discredit and spread popular distrust in someone, then why don't you be a man and say that's what you're doing?

My personal opinion on Jones, after listening to him for a few years, is that while he digs up all sorts of interesting infomation, that I fact check myself, he ties it together to be a very negative picture, with no real all-encompassing end-plan except for mass genocide and spiritual death.
While those factors may come into play at specific points, I fail to blindly believe that the end result in the efforts of the ruling elite is such. There's far more esoteric and spiritually evolutionary processes at work on the highest end of global management.
And I completely disagree with the one-sided christian mentality he works with, which, in the end all be all of his mentality's format, is the basis of his opinions of what he observs occuring on the world stage.

Chomsky rattles around the liberal mindset so clingingly... juggling over-intellectualized analysis of the common view of history without including the underpinnings of real agenda and aim, from a left-right paradigm that, while I get a lot of insight from the way he puts forth his positions, I shew them almost immediately, as being either completely uninformed of what's actually occuring underneath what he's commenting on, OR he's purposefully avoiding specific aspects of ongoings, because he's either been told to do so, or is part of the orchestration of leading underlings of like minded thought.

Though I can see an ultimate need for his shepherding the leftist flock without alarming them to the real nature of their leaders, because that wouldn't really be shepherding now would it?

Some people need to be pacified in a manner through how they've seen the world the majority of their life, and he gives them this.
Just as limbaugh does to the dittoheads.
Chomsky's ditto-heads are just ditto-heads that think they're not ditto-heads. Just as many Jones listeners are ditto heads without even realizing it... Jones creates such a fearful furvor, and taps into that primal survival instinct, that people have a hard time not accumulating all his reports into one whirlwind of impending hopelessness. Top that off with stubborn immoveable christian views.. and you're dittoed to the max.

Noam supplies them with mountains of verbage to quench the good-natured aspects of liberalism, and feeds the socialist direction that the country's taking. This is necessary on many fronts, as many anti-socialist people may not see the complete importance of in today's state of the union, primarily the health care sector.
and that's not JUST my opinion. Just look at how morgellons sufferers have gone from practicing professionals to destitute and homeless, family-less.. overnight.. BEFORE the economic crisis hit.. all because the supposedly 'best medical system in the world' couldn't help them, even thought hey took all their money.
that's a tangent though. just wait a few more months.. you'll see that topic bloom into what i'm talking about.
morgellons will DRIVE the socialization of medicine.

either way, I can see a definite need for both's positions in the current state of the world.
If Chomsky wasn't there to be that left wing magnate, that many flock to for their need for understanding or agreement, then someone else virtually identical would fill his vacancy, as would someone to Jones' gap he'd leave if e wasn't there.

They both represent certain 'shades' of awareness, and are central in the daily national discussionary process. they both coagulate certain demographics into a more orderly discourse.

I don't ascribe ultimately to either's rantings.... but to say "who's better, who's worse" or "who's a nutjob" or "who's a shill" is retarded.
They're both human. they're not above any of us, and they both are gonna do and act out their very nature in whatever circumstance they find themselves.


so... OP.. why don't you save it for the comment section of Fox News website articles, and give our intelligence some respect.
This isn't your pre-pubescent action-figure wrestling ring action battle.

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[edit on 7-5-2009 by prevenge]

could someone show me an industrialized country that does not have socialism in the mix? it's a balance and it has been hundreds, if not thousands of years in the making. all types of societies have been tried, from dictatorships to communism and they have all failed. the mix of capitalism and socialism as is industrialized first-world countries tend to be, is the best...SO FAR...that man has been able to live and prosper under.

Originally posted by jimmyx
could someone show me an industrialized country that does not have socialism in the mix? it's a balance and it has been hundreds, if not thousands of years in the making. all types of societies have been tried, from dictatorships to communism and they have all failed. the mix of capitalism and socialism as is industrialized first-world countries tend to be, is the best...SO FAR...that man has been able to live and prosper under.

I wasn't putting down socialism in different forms, I was pointing out the necessity for it in certain circumstances.

just to be sure that's clear.

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Originally posted by Common Good
reply to post by WWu777

 

he is? Did you listen to the same video I did?
That dude didnt even know wtf he was talking about, he was just pulling answers out of his ass knowing damn well he didnt research any of it. Come on.

as far as "name calling"...WHO CARES.
If I call someone a name does that dis-credit me?
only if I was wrong about everything I said prior to that.
The name calling wasnt the point of the conversation, and if that is what stuck out to you the most in that conversation, Im sorry for ya.
Just because someone is rude and can be obnoxious from time to time, does not mean what they are saying is not true.
When it comes to information, you need to get over the personality trait or you will never learn anything in this world.

W: Stop trying to defend the indefensible. Any sane person could tell that not only was AJ rude, but WRONG as well. Plus he was uncivil and pompous for saying that his brain was twice the size of Chomsky's. A sane person doesn't talk like that. That's the way a spoiled brat child acts who needs to be disciplined by his parents.

In this case, AJ is both insane, rude, pompous, and WRONG at the same time. Look at all the comments on youtube. They are attacking AJ for acting that way.

Why is Jones making pulling those "facts" about gundeaths out of his ass? A quick google says he is full of #: en.wikipedia.org...

The US is by far the country with the most gunrelated deaths. Alex Jones just proved his last shred of sanity is gone.

Originally posted by sueloujo
I dont think this revealed anything really. Alex Jones is Alex Jones. He is a well informed and well read individual and the way he puts his knowledge over is sometimes over the top but you take what you want from it. If you dont like his delivery there are plenty of others to listen to. As far as the video was concerned he was only stating the truth in his time worn way.

W: What truth? That Chomsky is a NWO shill? LOL

Chomsky has FAR FARRRRRRRRR more respect among intellectuals than AJ does. And is far more credible too. And is far more SANE as well. What was AJ right about?

And do you consider how he treated Chomsky at the end as sane and civil and rational?

Originally posted by Dr Love
"Say hello to Rockefeller for me!".

I listened and I'm still not sure where AJ discredited himself. Sounds more like Chomsky discredited himself.

Thanks for posting that, I'd never heard that interview before.

Peace

W: How do? Are you claiming that AJ was right in saying that Chomsky was a NWO shill? LOL

Originally posted by WWu777
Alex Jones just proved his last shred of sanity is gone.

I dislike your framing of this question. Chomsky is also aligned with particular powers. I am guessing Chomsky will have little to say about the Dimona Nuclear plant and I am certain he would chicken out if Alex challenged him to spend a few hours discussing that subject, of Israel and nukes.

In my estimation, the issue with Alex is that Chomsky wants to disarm Americans. He is a social anarchist by his own admission, and yet any anarchist who is against gun ownership is rightfully called out as a hypocrite. I agree with Alex more than Chomsky, tho the latter is more cultured and internationally poised for greatness due to his pedigree.

As a fan of guns, I can see that here Alex is simply a gun lover and Chomsky ain't. That's what this boils down to. Alex sees himself as just one guy who'll be grabbing his rifle when the SHTF and I for one am glad he's around, and he makes me have hope for Texas, even though its a hotbed of Noahide Law shenanigans which Chomsky knows but won't discuss. Didn't Texas appeal to the world court or was that a hoax? Anyway, Chomsky's people have been hard at work, Deep in the heaaaaart, of Texas!

Anyway, here's a great video (thanks to the poster who linked to the Rothchild versus Alex clip which led me to this one).

stopped listening after i watch this

hes full of #

Good on you AJ keep it up.Dont let anyone Brow beat you into anything.I would trust AJ before Chomsky.Real facts is what this Guys all about.IMHO

Wow look at the disinfo agents waying in here,they dont like AJ do they,thats what makes me like him more because he gets under their skin.Waiting to be attacked.

[edit on 7/5/09 by Moreonethananyone]

reply to post by Moreonethananyone


diss info agent? I use to listen to AJ all the time hes is the lying # shrill

watch the vid i posted hes full of BS and up his own ######

i use to like the guy now i know hes full of ### he makes me sick

Poor guy, I cant see anyone yelling and chompsk

Yelling? Screaming? AJ got a little sarcastic with the man. He was slightly rude. OP has seriously overblown the magnititude of the way Chomsky was treated. Thicken yer skin up.

Chomsky by the way still holds to official 9-11 theory. which puts him squarely in the NWO camp intellectually, whether he knows it or not.

Wow maybe I need to quit hanging out on ATS so much. I must be loosing my mind. I think Alex Jones is a raving lunatic, but that "rant" he had didnt seem so bad. Maybe its just that I have been watching too much Fox News and MSNBC and they have desensitized me to disrespectful rants.

You posted a thread on a 2 year old video to whine about Alex Jones? Really?

i live in england i have never seen a real gun, of course there are guns theres heroin aswell but because its not easily accessable its not a huge problem. Make heroin easily accessable and i think there would be a larger amount of drug users and social problems would obviously arise. AJ obviously is wrong in his thoughts (my opinion). Aj needs to stop thinking in a straght line and he should start opening his ears and mind.

Also i really dont like the way he rants AFTER he finishes the call.

I don't see the problem here. The guy was saying we're out of the rest of the world. I understand why Alex Jones raged about this...

I also found this from a website about him:

them, Chomsky is the supreme deity, a priestly master whose logic cannot be questioned.

However as one begins to examine the interviews and writings of Chomsky, a different picture emerges. His books, so vociferously lauded in leftist circles, appear to be calculated disinformation designed to distract and confuse honest activists. Since the 1960's, Chomsky has acted as the premier Left gatekeeper, using his elevated status to cover up the major crimes of the global elite.

His formula over the years has stayed consistent: blame "America" and "corporations" while failing to examine the hidden Globalist overclass which pulls the strings, using the U.S. as an engine of creation and destruction. Then after pinning all the worlds ills on American imperialism, Chomsky offers the solution of world government under the United Nations.

In his book "The Conspirator’s Hierarchy," Dr. John Coleman named Chomsky as a deep cover CIA agent working to undermine social protest groups. Certainly Dr. Coleman’s claims appear validated by an honest review of Chomsky’s role as a Left gatekeeper.

Since 9-11, he has steadfastly refused to discuss the evidence of government complicity and prior knowledge. Furthermore he claims that the Council on Foreign Relations (CFR), Bilderberg Committee, and Trilateral Commission are "nothing organizations." When critiquing poverty, he never mentions the Federal Reserve and their role in manipulating the national debt.

Similarly, he claims the CIA was never a rogue organization and is an innocent scapegoat; that JFK was killed by the lone assassin Lee Harvey Oswald; that the obvious vote fraud in 2004 did not occur; and that peak oil is real and good for humanity.

What he does advocate is population control, gun control, support for U.N.E.S.C.O., and the end of national sovereignty in favor of a one-world government under the UN. In other words, the major goals of the New World Order.

educate-yourself.org...

Why is it wrong for AJ to be upset of this?

He also favors taxes-- he argues here that taxes put more money in the hands of the people



It's absolute nonsense.

I think that he too is an NWO shill.

Here-- he says the news media is not liberally slanted:



He says that the media is biased towards the right. It's BS if you ask me. I think that he's got his facts wrong-- it's corporate leftist. The controlling interests want the main stations to be leftist bias. This guy is full of it.

I think that it is clear that the media is corporate-- but it's like fox news-- the right wing is corporate to the right and the left wing news is corporate to the left.

Also-- sos-at.blogspot.com... he is a member of the bilderburg group.

Lots of the intellectual elites are part of the group. I don't think AJ was in his right mind at the time... but I think for the most part he isn't THAT insane.

[edit on 8-5-2009 by Frankidealist35]

I listened to Alex Jones for almost a year. There were many reasons, but A.J. was a contributing factor to my insanity/madness.

I don't care if he means what he says or not, this guy should not have that much influence. Better yet, perhaps he should be tried on charges of fraud. Some of his claims can be backed up, except they're usually taken out of context.

One part truth, two part lies, and one part saliva splattered all over those who will take it.

Not me. Not anymore.

Life's too short to be thinking that the NWO's gonna be taking me off to a FEMA camp, or anything else as absurd and down right oppressive.

If Alex really wants to help people, he should drop the anger, drop the hate, and quit all his whining and insanity. It really doesn't do people any good.

What he professes against, he perpetuates. If anything, he's a hypocritical scam-artist that gets high off his fear mongering control scheme.

This is what I don't get about AJ haters. They say he empowers fear in the minds of other people. I haven't seen him play off any fear except for the fear of the government. Right now he's really angry at the DHS reports. I thought he was crazy before, but, now in my eyes he has a lot more credibility. I research everything he says to know what he says is BS or factual. I honestly don't get how so many people can just dismiss him as a loony. I mean, of course when you're doing this for years sometimes you'd lose it right? And why would you want AJ to be less angry? If AJ wasn't angry then he wouldn't be angry.

He is just what he is.


You know?



[edit on 8-5-2009 by Frankidealist35]