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reply posted on 6-5-2009 @ 10:52 PM by chapter29
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he or she should be forced to attend any college just to further his or her knowledge.




"Forced"..? Holy ignorance...





And you have a 'writer' tag..?







What about the individual that works with their hands..? Say a Contractor, Mechanic, Crane Operator...


Those require NO higher education and yet reap quite good salaries and still satisfy personal ambitions...


And your garbageman example lacks rationale...


BTW - you should attend college...you may take a class that prevents this mentality...






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reply posted on 6-5-2009 @ 10:52 PM by baseball101
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i completely agree with you, and as you said in your OP i think the main motivator is economic issues ... another is a lack of motivation, some people are happy with what they have and don't want to expand their knowledge, and understanding...

of course some people i'm sure will say that college is just part of the NWO agenda or what not...


reply posted on 6-5-2009 @ 10:57 PM by justsomeboreddude
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I am pretty sure everyone who wants to go to college can go to college already, unless they didnt learn enough to get accepted. So its just up to free choice. Free choice is good.

I really dont think we should be paying for some illiterate to go to college.


reply posted on 6-5-2009 @ 10:58 PM by baseball101
Originally posted by chapter29
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What about the individual that works with their hands..? Say a Contractor, Mechanic, Crane Operator...

Those require NO higher education and yet reap quite good salaries...


ah yes good examples, but the one's that don't require college are also the one's that are more likely to lay off lots of workers ... i'm not saying that everyone worries about job security in the fields that require only a high school education, nor do i think that college grad's don't have to worry about their job security ... i'm just saying that if you compare the number of layoffs between high school and college grads the numbers prove the point.

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reply posted on 6-5-2009 @ 11:03 PM by justsomeboreddude
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lost my mind... sorry.

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reply posted on 6-5-2009 @ 11:09 PM by djon01
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I sure hope you didn't become a single parent because of that rumor!
that would be like paying your mortgage thinking you'd be forced to pay it!


reply posted on 6-5-2009 @ 11:20 PM by deadline527
I'm sorry, but I do not have to spend thousands upon thousands of dollars a year to further my education.

I have taught myself programming in C, Perl, and PHP through my own studies. I am can read and write in Sanskrit, Arabic, Urdu, and Bengali through my own studies. I am knowledgeable of most major cultures and religion. My knowledge of theoretical physics surpasses that of even some college students. The practice of astral projection and lucid dreaming were both learned through reading books and experience. I have learned to think outside the box, instead of following the mundane stay between the lines thinking that the education system has become. Be it studying cryptology, or deep sea organisms - from the ancient sport of falconry to teaching myself guitar, it has all been self taught.

Do you see a pattern?

This was all knowledge I attained myself. Knowledge does not cost money. While I agree that some people lack the motivation to study by themselves, or stay at something when there is no penalty to stop, on the other hand there are other people who are always striving to learn more because they want to. Not because they are forced to.

I am also a believer that the twelve grades not including K is more then enough time for a student to figure out what kind of interests they have. Most people by the age of eighteen have a solid idea of what direction they are going in life. Many of the directions do not require college.

While I myself obtained a degree in network engineering, I do not see how it should be required of everybody. Somebody also could have studied every book my courses required and come out with the same information. For much less of a price. Yes, a teacher is there to help, but not everybody requires a hand helping them along the whole way.

And lastly, I strongly think that people who cannot afford college should have more options to help them achieve their goals. Not everybody can afford it, and even myself had trouble paying while working a full time job.

All citizens should have the option, but by no means should it be forced.


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reply posted on 6-5-2009 @ 11:21 PM by crmanager
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SO...by your thinking people should spend $40,000 "Looking at courses." WHo will pay? You? The government? Everyone should get a shot at Harvard?

What about idiots? They deserve to waste money in school?

Not everyone deserves the same results, only the opportunity.


reply posted on 7-5-2009 @ 12:07 AM by TheLoony
After watching this video:

Indoctrinate U

I have little trust or faith in any of our nations schools, from pre-school to college. I do think I get a better education from ATS than I would get in college. From Wiki:



Examples of "intellectual thuggery" in the film are nothing more than "the tip of a disgusting iceberg", laments Walter E. Williams, noting that "Several university officials refused to be interviewed for the documentary. They wanted to keep their campus policies under wraps, not only from reporters but parents as well."


Make what you will of the movie but there's some pretty awful stuff in there.


reply posted on 7-5-2009 @ 12:57 AM by Mr Headshot
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You are so right.

I don't get great grades in college right now, I don't enjoy being there. I'm only there for the sake of a future. I'm bad at most technical work so that sort of thing is out.

I'm only good at writing, music, and cooking. I needed a job so I quit being a music major. I discovered how horrible I am at traditional school work (high school was always easy enough to sleep through) and started taking english classes.
I'm not bad at school work because I'm unintelligent, I'm bad at school work because my brain wont work that way. I have to be doing something, and not thinking in theoretical terms; thus writing.

School really isn't for everyone, and if everyone DID attend college, OP, do you have any idea how useless any degree would be? A degree would become a high school diploma all over again.
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