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posted on May, 6 2009 @ 08:44 PM
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Proposed Congressional Legislation would demand up to 2 years in prison for those whose electronic speech is meant to "coerce, intimidate , harass , or cause substantial emotional distress to a person".



The measure H R 1966 , is labeled the Megan Meier Cyberbullying Prevention Act.
It is designed to target the behavior that led to last years suicide of the 13 year old Meier.


I can see the meaning behind this Act. But the scope of it seems much to broad , and I can see abuses or Stretches of the Act . It can cover a spectrum that can even
see Critizism as an abuse , if the receiver has thin skin and feels attacked.www.wired.com...

[edit on 6-5-2009 by Seany]




posted on May, 6 2009 @ 08:57 PM
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I read the bill in its entirety, and what is interesting, is that this bill could be used against telemarketers who repeatedly attempt to sell to someone. Maybe some good could come from this bill!

In fact, this bill could be applied to spam, because the terms used are subject to interpretation.

This is a typical knee-jerk reaction bill, to a very tragic event that took place. This sort of action allows congressional reps to pretend to care what happens to citizens, as they craft bills to steal what freedom and money that haven't already taken from us.

thomas.loc.gov...:H.R.1966:

Whoever transmits in interstate or foreign commerce any communication, with the intent to coerce, intimidate, harass, or cause substantial emotional distress to a person, using electronic means to support severe, repeated, and hostile behavior, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than two years, or both.



posted on May, 6 2009 @ 09:00 PM
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After I hit the Submit button , I too was wondering something.

I wonder If someone in a site such as ATS could claim "undo duress".

There are certainly "heated discussions " and at times you see people posting,

Stop The Bulllying



posted on May, 6 2009 @ 09:03 PM
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I have read this as well.
Can we interpret this to include phone and credit card companies that outsource labor forces to call upon us daily?
There is quite a bit of coercion involved here.
And will this be enforced???

Peace...



posted on May, 6 2009 @ 09:07 PM
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You can receive 15 years imprisonment for felony check fraud in some states, yet rarely anyone receives it.

Same premise here.



posted on May, 6 2009 @ 09:08 PM
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Finally a law that targets bill collectors. They would definitely fall under those guide lines.



posted on May, 6 2009 @ 09:15 PM
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no.
collection law and regulations are well established and this would not....
oh heck...look...the 8th amendment, "cruel and unusual punishment" basically deals with the death penalty.....Can't you think of a zillion other cruel and unusual punishments that could qualify? Don't you think there is a reason there aren't a zillion cases dealing with the 8th amendment?
...."demand up to two years" that seems a bit "spun" it could mean 1 day.
Prosecutors know, understand, what this bill or potential statute means.
collection people are not going down under this.
But my friend is right....this is a typical "knee jerk" reaction and is politicaly motivated (nothing new) gee, voters, I care.
This is a superfulous (damn if I could only spell) bill. We have many laws that would cover this area already.



posted on May, 6 2009 @ 09:24 PM
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Furthermore, the bill has been referred to committee, where it will most probably die. My comments about the telemarketers was a tongue-in-cheek remark, more to reveal the horrendous wording of this knee-jerk bill. Congressional reps aren't really noted for their intelligence.



posted on May, 6 2009 @ 09:30 PM
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Sounds like another law with vaguely defined terms and guidelines to incarcerate people on as little evidence as possible. Wonder if this post is breaking any rules?


TA



posted on May, 6 2009 @ 09:31 PM
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While Im ok with your post

Your Avatar is intimiating me

Your on report



posted on May, 6 2009 @ 09:38 PM
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so vage this is wide open for abuse by the powers that be

how long until its illegal to disagree with another person...hmm not to long by the looks of things i`m thinking



posted on May, 6 2009 @ 10:01 PM
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I thought blogging was just a computer thing, like on Facebook or MSN
those types of forums ? I am not a twitter or texter , so not "up to speed " on
what "blogging " is exactly



posted on May, 7 2009 @ 06:14 AM
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Originally posted by Seany

I thought blogging was just a computer thing, like on Facebook or MSN
those types of forums ? I am not a twitter or texter , so not "up to speed " on
what "blogging " is exactly


seeing as this is soething we all are involved with, I want to see some other comments on this



posted on May, 7 2009 @ 06:18 AM
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Just another example of a *do-gooder* act.

Something where the parent should have been monitoring their child (the 13 year old that committed suicide) and didn’t, but now to save all the other wee little children out there (who’s parents are not doing their job) - everyone has to pa y the price - and - it results in the biggest atrocity to happen yet in the USA (besides Constitutional free zones) - more freedom of speech being ripped right from our throats!

This is so disgusting I just can’t stand it.

peace



posted on May, 7 2009 @ 10:21 PM
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Originally posted by ProfEmeritus
reply to post by Seany
 



thomas.loc.gov...:H.R.1966:

Whoever transmits in interstate or foreign commerce any communication, with the intent to coerce, intimidate, harass, or cause substantial emotional distress to a person, using electronic means to support severe, repeated, and hostile behavior, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than two years, or both.


Fox News/CNN/NBC intimidate me and cause me substantial emotional stress.
So much so, that I can no longer watch them anymore!



posted on May, 8 2009 @ 12:50 AM
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Wow, I was in hopes to find a lot of comments here this morning.
Hmmm, can I bust you all out for NOT posting?
I’m not a member of any SN - and never plan to be - but I would like to know if this ever could or would apply to ATS.
(ATS isn’t considered a SN is it)?

peace



posted on May, 8 2009 @ 07:19 AM
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Originally posted by silo13
Wow, I was in hopes to find a lot of comments here this morning.
Hmmm, can I bust you all out for NOT posting?
I’m not a member of any SN - and never plan to be - but I would like to know if this ever could or would apply to ATS.
(ATS isn’t considered a SN is it)?

peace

Yes my freind , I would like that answered as well
this is at the heart of ATS , or not



posted on May, 8 2009 @ 01:05 PM
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Originally posted by Seany
reply to post by ProfEmeritus
 


After I hit the Submit button , I too was wondering something.

I wonder If someone in a site such as ATS could claim "undo duress".

There are certainly "heated discussions " and at times you see people posting,

Stop The Bulllying


I agree ... For those that don't have one...

Grow a spine! ONE tragic event doesn't make it OK (or legal, although they are trying) to punish the rest of us. You get one chance at this life. Yes this is as real as it gets.

If you know that other people, real, honest, caring, loving people that care about their fellow human beings regardless of race, religion etc... It's in our best interest to encourage debate and free thinking. AND slap (figuratively) around others when they need it. Not bully others. So, don't get me wrong.

For those that refuse to grow a spine or think for themselves; Eat # and Die. Go away and bury your head. Fear Kills. Ignorance Kills.

If they want to do anything 'legal' do it to the perpetrator.


[edit on 5·8·09 by DrMattMaddix]



posted on May, 8 2009 @ 01:18 PM
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That is very interesting, especially considering that I just heard that facebook is considering banning all "holocaust deniers" as these individuals "perpetuate hate" and may "insight violence".


Brian Cuban, who is of Russian Jewish descent, has written about his fight to have the Holocaust-denial pages removed on his site, The Cuban Revolution.



He said he contacted Facebook after a conversation with a friend who runs the Jewish Internet Defense Force, a group that monitors and tries to eradicate anti-Semitic online content.


www.cnn.com...

[edit on 8-5-2009 by searching4truth]



posted on May, 8 2009 @ 05:25 PM
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Originally posted by silo13
Wow, I was in hopes to find a lot of comments here this morning.
Hmmm, can I bust you all out for NOT posting?
I’m not a member of any SN - and never plan to be - but I would like to know if this ever could or would apply to ATS.
(ATS isn’t considered a SN is it)?

peace


Im surprised for people that enjoy time at the comp, this question wasn't answered , as it may affect this site , or not



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