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Are Aliens Demons?

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posted on May, 6 2009 @ 07:13 PM
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I highly recommend you watch these, even if you don't believe in god

the user who made the videos made some good points... all I can say now is im scared

Part1
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posted on May, 6 2009 @ 07:22 PM
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I tend to lean the opposite way that any school of thought may preach. Christianity teaches aliens are demons. Islam teaches aliens are god's servant's. Who is right? Who is wrong? I guess it depends which belief system you subscribe to. I tend to think though that if aliens are here to control us why haven't they done so yet? And if they don't show up until the end of destruction...then I'm going to have to believe they are here to help us.



posted on May, 6 2009 @ 07:40 PM
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Christianity teaches aliens are demons? I'm Catholic and I've never heard such a thing. Actually, the belief or disbelief of aliens is up to the individual, with no official Church teaching.

As far as if angels are demons, no I do not believe so. If one is religious, God created angels and therefore they exist. Now, I do not if a demon could impresonate an angel as in take its form or a form that we would believe to be an angel. Perhaps that is possible.



posted on May, 6 2009 @ 07:57 PM
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There are angels and there are demons. We know that God created the angels. There are no female angels, they only appear to us as males. The angels that rebelled against God fell to earth as fallen angels with their leader.

Demons are the creation of the fallen ones. Perhaps they are the disembodied spirits of the nephelim? Do they exist in the material realm, or only as spirits? The bible is actually very vague on the specifics of demons. We know that they possessed people, manifesting in them varying degrees of affliction, both mental and physical. Sometimes, many demons would inhabit the same body, 100s or even thousands of them. The bible calls them "unclean spirits." Theres a very interesting part in the new testemant where Jesus confronts a wild man hanging around a graveyard whos infested with a multitude of demons. Jesus asks the man his name, to which he chillingly replies "I am Legion, for we are MANY." Jesus later expells them from the man, and they immediately possess a nearby herd of pigs, who instantly charge over a cliff into the ocean and drown...

Anyways, next time I see a demon, I'll be sure to ask him "Hey demon, what gives?"(
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posted on May, 6 2009 @ 08:04 PM
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sorry my bad , i was meant to say are Aliens Demons



posted on May, 6 2009 @ 08:45 PM
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Demons?

Red-skinned dudes with horns and tail who want to hurt you?



Another reason why I support the NWO and de-population.



posted on May, 6 2009 @ 08:56 PM
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sorry if this hurts your feelings, but I think that the expressions displayed thus far in this thread perfectly sum up the lowbrow, dimwitted, broad stroking, literalist base-minded primitive type thinking of the common christian church follower.

"aliens are or aren't demons"...

I mean seriously.. how retarded can you get? how low on the food chain of thought can you plummet without falling off?

"aliens are or aren't demons"....

ok lets start from the bottom and work our way up ok kiddies?

okay!


if the universe has intelligent life other than our own, then you're going to consider said "other intelligent life" with a broad stroke of the brush.. as "all ademons or all not demons"?

what are you thinking ? what is this?
it's like your emotional and rational levels of thinking STOPPED growing in 5th grade or something!


if the universe is TEEMING with other intelligent life, some far in advance compared to our own culture, then there are hundreds of thousands if not millions of other intelligent species out there...

and you're going to broadly stereotype "all that is not of earthly intelligence" into a little pigeon hole that you can call "demons" or " not demons"??

why don't you abstract a bit and give us some more in depth analysis of WHICH EXACT INDIVIDUALS out of WHICH exact SPECIES you think are the "demons"...

I'm sure if "aliens" came to earth and broadly summed up the ENTIRE human race as "demons" they'd be ignorant in doing so, because there are many many fine human beings here, actually in my opinion there are far more fine human beings than corrupt human beings.
and for aliens to merely judge all of us as one psychological type.. would be ignorant..

just about as ignorant as a typical statement such as "are aliens demons??"


whos a demon? WHAT RACE? WHICH INDIVIDUALS out of that race?
humans can't be demons?

I'm privileged to share the planet with people as open minded and broad thinking as you all.



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posted on May, 6 2009 @ 09:05 PM
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well actually if you wanna be a jerk about it like that, when I first started replying to the thread it was titled "ARE ANGELS DEMONS?"

After my post I realized it had been changed to "ARE ALIENS DEMONS?"

Very, very, very different question!!

But after that flub-up by the OP, and your rant on how dumb we primitive christians must be, anything I say now must be considered irrelevant



posted on May, 6 2009 @ 09:40 PM
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posted on May, 6 2009 @ 09:47 PM
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REMOVED POINTLESS COMMENTS



I don't even consider myself to be a christian, I was simply recanting my knowledge and understanding of what's written in the book, the bible. Whiether or not anyone believes in it is irrelevant to me.


REMOVED POINTLESS COMMENTS




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posted on May, 6 2009 @ 10:40 PM
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I saw the documentary... Regardless of all the scoffers, unbelievers and blasphemers here... I believe it 100%. The bible predicts that all the unbelievers would ridicule our creator and Yeshua in the end of this age, So some of them are here spouting off. But their souls will burn forever... So Let them laugh!!! Believers will have the LAST LAUGH..so just let them keep on laughing and laughing and laughing and laughing!

Matthew 7:6, we are not to “cast our pearls before swine.” One of the implications of this is that we are not to waste our efforts with people who are interested in nothing but rejecting and blaspheming God. How do we recognize “swine”???????





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posted on May, 6 2009 @ 11:09 PM
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Originally posted by ExPostFacto
I tend to lean the opposite way that any school of thought may preach. Christianity teaches aliens are demons. Islam teaches aliens are god's servant's. Who is right? Who is wrong? I guess it depends which belief system you subscribe to. I tend to think though that if aliens are here to control us why haven't they done so yet? And if they don't show up until the end of destruction...then I'm going to have to believe they are here to help us.


Obviously they haven't done anything like try to enslave us because they are in check. Some did try, but it ended badly for them when the God put an end to it.

So, they are fallen angels, but at times through the millenniums, they have "left their first estate" and tried to enslave humans and also tamper with the pure DNA. See giants in the Bible.

I believe that temple way up in the mountains, that has the sun gate, was one of those attempts. One indicator that this theory could be true, is that the temple which is now about 10,000 feet up in a mountain, had huge docks for ships to dock in. Why would it need docks way up there? Unless the water level was that high, but the fact that the huge blocks and even the gate of the sun was thrown around and broken, seems to point to some kind of sudden upheaval, like a very violent earthquake.

I believe God caused the land to thrust upward in such a violent manner that it totally obliterated that great temple and city.
You don't mess with the living God and expect to get away with it.



posted on May, 6 2009 @ 11:47 PM
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I think your on to something..Great synopsis.



posted on May, 7 2009 @ 01:12 AM
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Originally posted by Wideawake08
reply to post by dino1989
 

I saw the documentary... Regardless of all the scoffers, unbelievers and blasphemers here... I believe it 100%. The bible predicts that all the unbelievers would ridicule our creator and Yeshua in the end of this age, So some of them are here spouting off. But their souls will burn forever... So Let them laugh!!! Believers will have the LAST LAUGH..so just let them keep on laughing and laughing and laughing and laughing!

Matthew 7:6, we are not to “cast our pearls before swine.” One of the implications of this is that we are not to waste our efforts with people who are interested in nothing but rejecting and blaspheming God. How do we recognize “swine”???????
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I experience a deep connection with 'The All' , or 'God' if you will..

I also experience something comparable to 24-7 seizure causing brain aneurism caused by humanity's collective conscious being infected by the incorrect and misconceived notion of what 'God' IS.
Whether it's radical Christian, Islam, Judaism, Hindi, any and all extremism, doesn't have to be violent-radicalism, could just be info-based radicalism spewing forth 'brimstone awaits if you don't view it our way' type regurgitation.

Could you, for a moment, possibly imagine that your 'christ' will come in such a form.. like a thief in the night, that you would not even recognize it?
That you would not be as wise to see it for what it is? That you'd judge it as something marginal and not according to your 'perceived notion' of what Christ actually IS, causing YOU to be the 'non believer' ?
that you dreamed it up to be something centralized and glorious in it's initial stages of manifestation? that it would be something outside of us, to save us from ourselves without us actually CHANGING?

I BESEECH YOU! 'Christ' will be alien to you, and anything you have so confidently prepared in your mind as the spectacle of what it will appear as will act only as a wall blinding you from it's true form.

What if i told you that this 'christening' is...
...is happening to people NOW.
That they're suffering unimaginably... silently.. in homes that may be a few houses away from you...

yet you are completely unaware...

and preach happily on the internets...
...that just because you believe in a character in a story, in the most literal sense, without intellectually seeking the absolute of the meaning of the scripture, just because you believed that a symbolic archetype composite character in a book would save you, that you are of the 'type' to be 'saved' and that anyone who does not blindly believe in a story (not the deep absolute knowledge contained therein) .. will burn in pain for eternity...

you're in for a sad awakening.
I suggest you get right with things, in the truest sense, and that sense maintains using your intellect, and the willingness to allow for a revisionist view on your dearly held faith, a revisionist view that comes full circle to what Christ ACTUALLY taught, before people began writing about what he taught in their opinion.

A revisionist view that brings the base truths of Egyptian, Greek, Hindi, Kabballa mythological and mystic symbolism into a central understanding, a common truth, the truest light of spiritual intellectual knowledge.. that of the path of the "Monad"..MONO=ONE "the ALL" and the path of human behavioral and physiological evolution.

but wait.. If I follow that correct path... that may mean I have to BURRRRN IN FIIIRRREEE!

oh well..
at least I'll be a Phoenix when I burn.



You know.. I would really love to develop a larger buffer of patience, so that I can post my views on this topic in a more gentle and inoffensive way.
But the truth is, it's gone on for so long, so backwardly, so wrongly, that it's at least an opportunity for me to vent my frustration in the matter.

and thanks for that opportunity.


If an Angel or a Demon is a personality that is more powerful than mortal men, and

an Angel denoting a personality that is more integrated into 'the All', and one with God, therefor understanding that the general overarching desire is to love and be loved, and having the overall viewpoint directing his/her/it's actions based on that truth.

and a Demon, is a personality that is the LEAST integrated into 'the All' and oneness with god, completely cut-off from that experiential perception, and can only come to the overarching conclusion that a being in his/her/it's said circumstances, does only look out for it'self and only desires for it's own pleasure, "it" being the individual consciousness contained within it's container of a body, cut off from the experience of other being's suffering,
Remember that 'infernal' comes from 'inferior'.

Then I have to come to the conclusion that, according to the above, that Angels are more evolved alien (non-homo sapien) intelligences, than Demons, because they are closer to the absolute truth.
And that Demons are less evolved, less informed, because they are somehow not in constant awareness of that absolute truth, and not in constant acutely sensitive feedback as to the experience of their effect on other individuals (other parts) of 'the ALL' that their actions have impact on.

If you're making the supposition that certain types of alien intelligences are Demons, and some are Angels, then you'd have to argue that it's dependent upon the sensory features of the biology that they inhabit.

If you are ihabiting a body that only allows you the sensory input of say.. the five human sense, at the level we experience them... then you have to make the EFFORT to IMAGINE how other people feel about what you do, or what you do to them directly or indirectly.

If you are inhabiting a body that allows you to DIRECTLY SENSE the exact experience, thoughts or emotions of other individuals,and YOU feel it every time THEY feel it, then I think you'd adjust your actions immediately and cause only pleasure and happiness amongst your fellow beings, since now what they feel, is what everyone feels.


So you could call humans that don't care to imagine the suffering of others, "DEMONS"... those who so not do anything to correct that suffering inequity in the culture, as people undeserving of a 'holy body' a body designed to be in union with God, would be allowed to inhabit.

Being "DEMONIC" equates being "DE-MONIC"..."DE-MONADIC" ..."UN-MONAD-ED"
being DE-TATCHED from the "MONAD" the "ONE" ..."THE ALL"

It's all about the biological technology we are allowed to 'wear'... this biological 'suit' .. being the christ/krishna/buddha body that the kundalini/barracka/holy spirit inhabits at Golgotha (the place of the skull) .

to inhabit a body that senses ALL TRUTH without filter...
to inhabit a body that is capable of absolute power...
to correct inequity, to aid in a complete planetary revolution towards enlightenment for all and the extermination of corruption, in order to join our peers outside of our temporarily quarantined system of planets.

I don't think demons are 'out there'... I think by the looks of it..
WE'RE the freaking DEMONS...
we just need to think purely, act accordingly, and evolve.
And I'm not just being hypothetical here.. I mean actually trigger the physiological 'switch' within us that turns on that evolutionary metamorphosis..

the prime truth that Jesus' sermons were about.. the prime truth that Krishna spoke of, that Buddha spoke of.. the prime truth that Hermes and his caduceus stands for.

this enlightenment is a spiritual emergence... that causes a biological change.
but modern interpretations of most scriptures completely overlook this artistically placed deeply important information.
the most important information to humanity.


I know how comfortable and cozy it is to point your finger at something other than yourself as 'demon!'...
but the truth is a bit more of a cold reality, that we very well are closer to any definition of 'demon'.. in our thoughts and actions.

to evolve into 'Angels' would be ideal.
and it is possible.

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posted on May, 7 2009 @ 01:31 AM
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The evidence favors the hypothesis that aliens are in fact a demonic manifestation. Look at the extensive UFO work by Jacques Vallee. Even he had to conclude that the UFO phenomenon resembles classic demonology more than it does an advanced civilization. Moreover most UFO abductees and UFO followers have had some kind of involvement with the occult. I myself knew a woman who was involved in a UFO cult and she was heavily demonized and involved in the occult as well (prior to her mysterious and violent death.)

Look at the testimony of the so called alien visitations. They are obsessed with Jesus! They go out of their way to deny the gospel or claim that they really invented Jesus. They purposely try to mislead folks away from orthodox christianity. It is pure demonic behavior. The earth is behind enemy lines, which is why these spirit creatures and thier UFO puppets are fighting against the creator and are trying to destroy your soul. I'd stay away if I were you.



posted on May, 7 2009 @ 02:07 AM
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As you babel on this post for 3 days about what your opinion is....It is just THAT your delusional OPINION. I give absolutely "NO" credence to it because, GUESS WHAT??? I would rather listen to what our creator said in letters left by the apostles who left instructions and accounting of those times to mankind...Not mans twisted version of it, or the evil acts man perpetrates on humanity in the name of holy books...or people that are blasphemous against Yeshua and the creator of all.
REPOST...
Everyone knows, even the unbelievers that something is really really wrong in this world. You sense it, you see it, you hear it, you feel it. The difference is the Christians know exactly what it is. The unbelievers give us opinions, excuses, theories, and worst of all are blasphemous against THEIR creator...As they post about their beliefs in aliens, demons and everything else under the sun.
How do you suppose their theories came into existence?
I guess aliens were created through evolution too. Maybe there is a sea in the universe with alien fish that lived for millions of years and they evolved to become so technologically advance they can stream across the universe to planet earth.
Maybe demons just magically appeared out of a concoction of primordial electronical impulses and decided to invade earth.
Maybe Isis was hatched by a dinosaur in the constellation of Pleiades's and telepathically spoke to the Egyptians.
The bible and other apocryphal books speak of the most supernatural events ever recorded in human history, spirits, angels, giants, miracles.
Believe in demonic possession? Well Jesus was possessed with the holy spirit. The spirit of your creator.
But you equate Christianity to Church ladies, Jesus pins and pedophiles dressed up as priests. The bible tells you exactly whats going on...You people sound more and more ridiculous by the day. Your creator left you a letter why don't you read it? For the ignorant..that letter would be the "Bible".
The problem with unbelievers is you don't understand it or you never read it.

"For SOME ignorance is BLISS"


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posted on May, 7 2009 @ 02:11 AM
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Ok – this opens the door to what is one of the most important issues and discussions regarding ufology , paranormal and science investigation and exploration. I strongly believe that from many directions there is acute confusion and deliberate “muddling up” to hide or distort the truth.
This is not a trivial issue – but core to the whole understanding of what is going on – and the reality of severe dangers and destructiveness of some things.

I could write a book on this, and well qualified to do so. I do not say that arrogantly but rather I know full well, that the more I know and understand and have experienced, that more one realises that what we think we know and understand is just a small “model” of the reality – and those “models” work to describe and understand certain things – sometimes... Just as any engineering and science - no matter how much of a genuine expert one is, no matter how advanced the maths to model it – reality is full of shocks and surprises.

To keep this post simple, I will list a few points of what i believe to be case – but i know this post will create more questions and demands for “justification” for such claims – but one cannot write many years of experience and training in one post....

A) Whether we like it or not, I have good reason to believe that there is a creator God – unfortunately just about all of the world religions have been manipulated by people for selfish ends– and so much “organised” religion holds people captive and oppressed instead of setting them free. “If Christ set you free, you will be free indeed” what happened to that ? We are not meant to live in fear and oppression..... We are not meant to be “up in arms” against each other..... we are not meant to be nasty and destructive to each other... and those who lead, should be there to wisely guide and serve those they lead – not to “lord it over” .... need i say more....

B) Our understanding of scientific fact barely scratches the surface. We have more “advanced” technology in some ways– but the attitudes have become worse and more arrogant than Victorian – How many times do we see something unusual observed and any investigating scientists are rubbished because “it cannot be true” ? It happens all the time – and I know that many discoveries, and things that shake some of our “traditional” scientific models have been suppressed. It is worse than an oppressive religion! And this science vs God debate is artificially created – there is no conflict, only wonder.... Seriously I feel cheated that our science has been held back deliberately since WWII It is well know that Newtons laws of motion (taught as fact in schools and colleges) only works “roughly right” for most engineering, but once one goes into electronics and atomics – one must use a much more sophisticated model. In a similar way a lot of our “Models” are just a “roughly right” way of describing a small part of the story for some applications.... not absolute truth !

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posted on May, 7 2009 @ 02:13 AM
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Originally posted by SevenThunders
The evidence favors the hypothesis that aliens are in fact a demonic manifestation. Look at the extensive UFO work by Jacques Vallee. Even he had to conclude that the UFO phenomenon resembles classic demonology more than it does an advanced civilization. Moreover most UFO abductees and UFO followers have had some kind of involvement with the occult. I myself knew a woman who was involved in a UFO cult and she was heavily demonized and involved in the occult as well (prior to her mysterious and violent death.)

Look at the testimony of the so called alien visitations. They are obsessed with Jesus! They go out of their way to deny the gospel or claim that they really invented Jesus. They purposely try to mislead folks away from orthodox christianity. It is pure demonic behavior. The earth is behind enemy lines, which is why these spirit creatures and thier UFO puppets are fighting against the creator and are trying to destroy your soul. I'd stay away if I were you.

WELL SAID!! I agree



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