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Secret U.S.-Israel nuclear accord in jeopardy

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posted on May, 6 2009 @ 11:56 AM
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Secret U.S.-Israel nuclear accord in jeopardy


www.washingtontimes.com

President Obama's efforts to curb the spread of nuclear weapons threaten to expose and derail a 40-year-old secret U.S. agreement to shield Israel's nuclear weapons from international scrutiny, former and current U.S. and Israeli officials and nuclear specialists say.

The issue will likely come to a head when Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu meets with Mr. Obama on May 18 in Washington. Mr. Netanyahu is expected to seek assurances from Mr. Obama that he will uphold the U.S. commitment and will not trade Israeli nuclear concessions for Iranian ones
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posted on May, 6 2009 @ 11:56 AM
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This is one to watch closely to see if the obamassiah is in fact a closet muslim waiting for the chance to kill all of Israel. Israel has had nuclear weapons for decades for self defense from radical arab nations. If barry decides to "out" this not-so-secret agreement then it will be an open invitation for Iran...

www.washingtontimes.com
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posted on May, 6 2009 @ 12:01 PM
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Originally posted by heliosprime


This is one to watch closely to see if the obamassiah is in fact a closet muslim waiting for the chance to kill all of Israel. Israel has had nuclear weapons for decades for self defense from radical arab nations. If barry decides to "out" this not-so-secret agreement then it will be an open invitation for Iran...

www.washingtontimes.com
(visit the link for the full news article)


I don't think it has anything to do with loyalty to either side but what better way to kick off WW3 with nuclear weapons being used as a possibility?

Very nice catch though.

[edit on 6-5-2009 by Anonymous Avatar]



posted on May, 6 2009 @ 12:13 PM
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Originally posted by heliosprime

Israel has had nuclear weapons for decades for self defense from radical arab nations.


Playing devil's advocate for a change here...

It could be argued that for decades Israel had a very clear ability to defend itself WITHOUT nuclear weapons when in fact none of Israel's enemies had such weapons.

Also, nuclear weapons can be used to embolden a nation when their sworn enemies have none, and that such a threat or perceived threat can in fact be seen as provocation, inspiration indeed motive for an opposing nation or enemy to obtain an equal nuclear arsenal.

In fact Israel's nuclear arsenal may ultimately be the reason for Iran's nuclear ambitions.

If the region had remained free of nukes to begin with and Israel had maintained its conventional defence capabilities we'd be much closer now to PEACE in that region.

You can't have such awesome destructive capabilities without motivating your enemies to do the same, then bitch when they do.

/advocacy



posted on May, 6 2009 @ 12:26 PM
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It is interesting that for forty years Israel had nukes and did not use them. Even in the 6 day War when all seem loss they never used them?

On the other hand a nation who sponsors organizations like Hamas and Hezbollah, routinely cause for the destruction of Israel, and in fact is seeking to develop Nukes for said purpose seems a bit scarier to me.



posted on May, 6 2009 @ 12:28 PM
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Several consecutive US administrations have been breaking US law for many, many years in delivering US aid money to Israel.

www.reuters.com...


The Foreign Assistance Act of 1961 as amended by the Symington Amendment of 1976 and the Glenn Amendment of 1977 prohibit US military assistance to countries that acquire or transfer nuclear reprocessing technology outside of international nonproliferation regimes. Israel, unlike Iran, is not a signatory to the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty. If Congress wishes to provide US taxpayer funded foreign aid to Israel in compliance with US law, it
may do so only under a special waiver from the office of the President as in the case for Pakistan.

Upholding the Symington Amendment could be an early litmus test as Congress and Executive branch strive to restore public confidence in the aftermath of the US invasion of Iraq and global financial crisis. According to IRmep director of research Grant F. Smith, "Governance depends on rule of law-- it is imperiled if government openly flouts important laws. It is no longer acceptable for Congress or the President to invoke 'strategic ambiguity,' a practice whereby US government officials publicly pretend to the American people that Israel possesses no nuclear weapons."


So in effect, US politicians have, since 1977, been knowingly breaking the law in supplying any funding to Israel. Tens of $Billions of taxpayers money has been illegally sent to Israel in direct violation of the law, yet nobody has batted an eyelid. What sort of message does that send? How can the US accuse anyone of breaking laws, especially international ones, when they do not even abide by their own domestic laws?

I think the American taxpayers should be asking for an explanation, criminal proceedings against current and former administrations..... and a very big refund!



posted on May, 6 2009 @ 12:37 PM
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Too bad the country didn't have the choice to elect a war hero who would have attacked Iran to defend Israel. Oh wait... we did.



posted on May, 6 2009 @ 01:13 PM
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Oh yes it will be an open invitation, because uhm.. because Israel is gonna hand over its current nuclear arsenal. Yeah right.


Even if Israel wouldn't have nuclear weapons and Iran would, they could be sure that in case of a nuclear attack on Israel, the US would retaliate with nuclear weapons as they simply cannot let a country nuke others in the region.

And one last thing... cut the ignorant crap about Obama willing to destroy Israel.



posted on May, 6 2009 @ 01:40 PM
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Say what? You actually, really, honestly believe that for some unknown/inane resaon the United States of America has some moral obligation to attack a country in defense of Israel?? WTF man?

Here's a thought... why not let other countries take care of their own business for a change? Where's the quid pro quo in this? Why do we always seem to have to pick-up the check?



posted on May, 6 2009 @ 01:52 PM
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Relax. I was being sarcastic.

The people are fed up with kowtowing to Israel and being their attack dog. We elected someone who might change that.



posted on May, 6 2009 @ 02:04 PM
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Oh no, israel won't have the US to back them up, how are they going to bully everyone now!!!!???!!!!

I think Obama trading israels nukes for Irans would be one of the smartest things he could do while in office.

It would calm things down, across the middle east, once everyone knows no one is getting wiped off the map.

Head to head, the IDF and Iranian forces are about even, sure the IDF has a lot of technology advances, but Iran can call upon their literally millions of "minute men".

This would also be the perfect chance for Russia and China to flex newly found muscles which are bigger than the US's.

I can see the Kremlin/Hong Kong telling Obama to stand down, that it's not his fight, and let the middle east take out israel, the pinnacle of western civilization.



posted on May, 7 2009 @ 11:55 AM
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Originally posted by Mdv2

And one last thing... cut the ignorant crap about Obama willing to destroy Israel.


Obama's sole purpose on this planet is to attack Israel. His father sent him to do so.


17And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.


Rev 12:17

The "remnant of her seed" are the lost tribes of Israel who still worship God, and keep the faith of Christ.

Obama's father is "allah" who is satan.........



posted on May, 7 2009 @ 12:04 PM
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the same `allmighty` israel that killed americans because they were in the way?

the same allmighty israel thats being investigate for crimes against humanity?



posted on May, 7 2009 @ 12:07 PM
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Originally posted by Harlequin
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the same `allmighty` israel that killed americans because they were in the way?

the same allmighty israel thats being investigate for crimes against humanity?


errr what part of "make war" didin't you get............satan and his son obama now control human activites on this planet............



posted on May, 7 2009 @ 12:11 PM
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which part of ` israel use america for its own ends and obama wants that to stop` dont you get?

zionist jews hate christians - which finally someone is making a stand for.



posted on May, 7 2009 @ 12:15 PM
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Originally posted by Harlequin
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which part of ` israel use america for its own ends and obama wants that to stop` dont you get?

zionist jews hate christians - which finally someone is making a stand for.


Obama stands of obama. He is the second most vile thing ever to walk this earth after his father satan.

As of this moment Israel is the only real hope for the planet. America has been taken over by the enemy of God.



posted on May, 7 2009 @ 12:16 PM
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Here is my personal idea. Let's disarm Israel and strip it of funding. Let's let it stand on it's own so the Anti-Christ can ascend, descend or catch a bus from wherever and set up shop there.

Let's designate a wide open place that all the Christians who want the Bible to dictate foreign policy can get together to argue with one another while they wait for the trump.

While they are busy waiting and arguing with one another about which riddle of a verse really means this and what riddle of a verse really means that...

The rest of us could finally get some work done and fix the planet using the dose of plain old common sense that has been absent since 1948.

Lets get them all T-Shirts that say Trump or Bust too.

Politics and Religion really don't mix.

Any ideas what Americans can do to get back to the Separation of Church and state that was designed to shield us from all these wacky prejudices and superstitions so we could function as a common sense based state instead of an illogical faith based one?

Christians I was waiting for Led Zepellin to get back together after the O2 Arena benefit Concert.

It hasn't happened!



posted on May, 7 2009 @ 12:18 PM
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Wow, has been forty years since JFK pushed their buttons?

www.jfkmontreal.com...



Therefore, I asked our scientists to review the alternative schedules of visits we and you had proposed. If Israel’s purposes are to be clear beyond reasonable doubt, I believe that the schedule which would best serve our common purposes would be a visit early this summer, another visit in June 1964, and thereafter at intervals of six months. I am sure that such a schedule should not cause you any more difficulty than that which Mr. Ben-Gurion proposed in his May 27 letter. It would be essential, and I understand that Mr. Ben-Gurion’s letter was in accord with this, that our scientist have access to all areas of the Dimona site and to any related part of the complex, such as fuel fabrication facilities or plutonium separation plant, and that sufficient time to be allotted for a thorough examination.

Knowing that you fully appreciate the truly vital significance of this matter to the future well-being of Israel, to the United States, and internationally, I am sure our carefully considered request will have your most sympathetic attention.

Sincerely,

John F. Kennedy

(July 5, 1963)


Three months later, he was dead.


Now as for any animosity between the Catholics/Jesuits and the Jews, I am not sure, but I'll go do some research.



[edit on 7-5-2009 by smallpeeps]



posted on May, 7 2009 @ 12:20 PM
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Originally posted by ProtoplasmicTraveler

Let's designate a wide open place that all the Christians who want the Bible to dictate foreign policy can get together to argue with one another while they wait for the trump.




That place was once called America............now it's obamaland, home of the enslaved.



posted on May, 7 2009 @ 12:20 PM
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do you think the Illuminati/NWO/Bilderbergs/CFR/TC would honestly let Obama destroy Israel? they would sooner kill there poster boy Messiah (Obama) then have anything bad happen to Israel

now as to if they use this as a strategic move? could happen, have Israel fear loosing there Nuclear Weapons, so they just go and attack the whole middle east, kicks of a WWIII Quite nicely...

now i think they would kick off the WWIII with another country attacking the US or another False Terrorist attack Versus having Israel starting it..

but you never know



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