Truckloads of dead civilians after Afghan battle

Truckloads of dead civilians after Afghan battle

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HERAT, Afghanistan (Reuters) - Villagers brought truckloads of bodies to the capital of a province in Western Afghanistan on Tuesday to prove that scores of civilians had been killed by U.S. air strikes in a battle with the Taliban .

The governor of Farah Province, Rohul Amin, said about 30 bodies had been trucked to his office, most of them women and children. Other officials said the overall civilian death toll may have been much higher, with scores of people feared killed while huddled in houses that were destroyed by U.S. warplanes.

U.S. forces confirmed that a battle had taken place

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im sure its pretty hard to see who's bad and who's good from 30,000 ft.
probably should look at who's guiding these missiles in.
perhaps soldier's. the "airstrike" term always seems to give the issue an overflow, to prevent civil unrest.

"it was an accident...." they'll say, "a terrible, terrible accident".

can you spell VIETNAM!
kill everyone who could be a terrorist, now or in the future'.


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reply to post by spearhead


Its a sad thing indeed when innocent people are killed.

All militaries need to be more cautious about civilian losses.

Its war. Sometimes innocent people die. It sucks, but its part of war. This is especially true when your enemy tries to hide by going into peoples villages and houses.

I'm pretty sure that if North Korea, or Iran, were doing this sort of thing, there would be a lot of Americans calling for war.

Does anyone not agree with this statement?

reply to post by justsomeboreddude


its easy to say its just war. its been going on for far too long. measures should have been developed by now to eliminate this issue.
its more like the people with their fingers on the buttons decide a little collateral damage is acceptable everytime.

for the good of the cause, right?

Lieutenant Colonel Khalil Nehmatullah, commander of an Afghan Army battalion in the province, said: "Unfortunately the Taliban took people into some buildings and forced them to stay in there after the security forces started telling them to evacuate."

Why do we hear this same line every time civilian deaths are actually reported in the media? And why do we believe it?

Maybe it's because we might otherwise feel bad about the fact that they probably spent a couple hundred thousand of our dollars to massacre 150 of the poorest people in the world. Just doesn't seem right does it?

Mainly women and children.
Hot damn, another cold hearted victory for the American Empire!

Question...

Q: If you came home to find your house destroyed, your wife and child in pieces.. what would you do?

A: Join the nearest militia fighting against the one who killed them.

Americans, would have you believe these people are animals. But infact, im sure they would do the same thing.

Your just not allowed to think for yourself.

Thats why they are called Enemy combatants.
Grandma, littly johnny and daughter emily dont bring about as much bravado in the media!


But im sure they did hit some enemy combatants.
they wouldnt strike a town for no apparent reason, and there's a good chance the taliban ARE over inflating numbers.

But surely America must understand, 8 years of war now and your still killing innocent people, which just equates to more angry sons, brothers and dads.

You going to just kill everyone in the country? then declare victory?

reply to post by spearhead


What would you do differently to eliminate the problem. This is how it goes when your enemy runs and intermingles with the civiilian population. They are trying to root out the Taliban the only way they can. Its the Pakistani's doing most of it on the ground.

its quite a complex issue in Afghanistan. they are so torn by war there is no work. so with friends and family getting killed the only option many of the afghan men and children have is turn to fighting.

it's a job that pays. i don't support the taliban and their agenda but its obvious wht the local people go that way.

reply to post by spearhead


Lets just make an excuse for people promoting a religious agenda than enslaves women and takes a country back to the 19th century. If you pick up a gun to fight and it gets you and your family killed whose fault is that?



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well if your prepared to sacrifice so much to change a nation wouldn't that sacrifice entail a certain amount of risk. instead of soldiers just standing back and blowing the crap out everything knowing your killing innocents perhaps they could do what they are paid for and go in and fix the problem face to face. even that means dieing.

Originally posted by justsomeboreddude
Its war. Sometimes innocent people die. It sucks, but its part of war. This is especially true when your enemy tries to hide by going into peoples villages and houses.

Can we quote you when war is on your door step?

hypothetically
How would you feel if China came to town and decided to chase what it calls terrorists in the land of the brave and the home of the free?

reply to post by justsomeboreddude


Let's not forget it was the CIA who promoted this religious fundamentalist agenda in the first place. Everybody knows that by now right? That's public knowledge, not a conspiracy theory.

It's incredibly cruel that we perpetuate this vicious cycle in Afghanistan.

reply to post by spearhead


Its war. The way you do war is you try to kill more of them than they kill of you. You dont put your men on the ground until it becomes necessary. Fortunately our military leaders are smart enough to get the Pakistanis to do the ground work. Even then I am sure we have men on the ground lighting targets and helping advise the Pakistanis. Only a fool would put his men in a city for ground fighting when they dont have to.

reply to post by milesp


I doubt thats true but it doesnt matter. Whether one time friend or foe they are now creating a threat to our national interest and so they must be defeated or else we face the prospect of them getting control of Pakistan and all that means. They were bad enough in the backwater country of Afghanistan it would be 100x worse if they had control of a real country with an army and nuclear weapons.

reply to post by justsomeboreddude

Its war.

this isn't quite the term we should be using. its actually 'occupation' of a country.

reply to post by munkey66


I would expect China to hunt me and my family down if they invaded our country. That is why I see it as necessary to win the wars you are in and in protecting the nation. Do you really think any country wouldnt slaughter us alive if they defeated us? As bad as you think America is to civilians we are actually the nice guys, do you see the Russians, Iranians, etc worrying about collateral damage when they ffight. No you dont.

reply to post by spearhead


You can get into semantics if you like but when your country is bombing there country its war no matter how you say it. I guess the Korean war was really just a police action.

reply to post by justsomeboreddude


pakistan can defend itself and its nukes. the problem there is the general population could change to support the taliban's agenda.

i like your comment here. where is your national interest in Afghanistan?

Whether one time friend or foe they are now creating a threat to our national interest and so they must be defeated

heroin?