Now the war in iraq and afganistan is going badly for the americans and british the bikering starts. The problem in Iraq was the Americans where gun
ho, shooting at anything that moved, while the british tried to win the people over with the so called hearts and minds.However this was undermind by
two factors, the ameircans and the british government in london. The ameircans wanted the british to adopt a shot first policy and ask questions
latter. This the british refused but the americans over rulled them any, so what did the british, packed their bags and left. The americans say ha
your running you cannot fight. I hate all this sico fantatic musing of max hastings about ameirica. Does he not know that the US in decline that is
why its having its stupid little wars. Thats what empires do and he know this fulll well. The second problem is the british gov did not provide the
kit the army need, to the brits was defeated, is a gross insult and a poor ally.
While I totally disagree with the british army being defeated in Iraq, there is not evidence to believe this. I do believe the british are seriously
over stretched in Afganistan. There are just not enough men there, and they are dispursed over a wider area. I am reading 3rd Para by patrick bishop
He desribes the command structure as a mess where, its over loaded to the point of
stupid with some many officers about the co of 3rd para its an nightmare and confusing. The british wanted to win people over, sound policy in my
view, by giving security, making sure the people feel safe, build infratsturers, like schools and hosptials etc. However this was repeatedly undermind
by the americans and the afganistani goverment who wanted a presence in sagin and now zad. The aims of the the command was so confusing yoiu did not
know which way is loose you get the american general screaming at the british do this do that, the british say we cannot, then the americans say your
not fighing hard enough, the british say we are have fought off 3 times our number. etc and the problems go on . The british are hemmed up in their
commpounds, partly because they have not strategy, to do anything about it because everything they try in under mind not by the taliban, the british
defeat them easily enough, but they just keep coming back, and this in the end is undermining their resolve. It is clear the british do want to fight
this war, the army is under resourced, they feel over worked and tired, when you have 100 men fightin off 100s of taliban, for 11 hours a day for
months on end with a on few day break you can see the in the end, they are going to start to break. its appears in the book that 3rd par is fough to
exhustian, its hard not enough amo or men. In the book the men where told not to use too much ammo as there are going over there quota and resupplly
was difficult. there is not enough helicopters not enough food etc, its a shambles. To tell you the truth the british in helmand are doing a fantastic
job there with the resources they have. The uk is not giving them right kit or enough men .
I do get in the impression in the end the british just do not believe in the war and do wish to be there and they are so fed up of the lack of
strategy they are just plodding along and when the taliban shows up and its gets a bit too hot they call in an air strike. I feel they are just fed
up and want out of the dam country they see no point in being there.
In hastings article he quotes the ameircan general as saying that the brits look down on the afgan soliders, because of our so call imperial attidue.
Well its true the british soldiers do look down on themm, for a few simple reason, some are taliban spies, and they do not want to fight and some of
them bugger little boys. How can you say to the locals hey we are here for you but are siding with the most hated memberts of society, its does no
bold well. The briitsh do respect their taliban and its fighting abilty, now where have i read or seen on tv dispells this image.
Its seems to me the britis have come to realise this war is unwindable not because of the lack of will to fight, but because of the lack of reason to
fight, they see it has an ameircan war and nothing else. In the books it talks bout the 3rd para, did saved an american convoy and how they did not
respect these particulas soliders while they had great praised for the danish. what do you think?
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