Alex and others are quiet, quiet sure that the Council on Foreign Relations are TOTAL NWO - i'm not so sure myself, i think this is another great example of something which might hold differing views (to the highly rightwing conservative alex jones) being wildly demonized.

They're a [mostly] left wing think tank, a body of people who believe that only by understanding something can you act sensibly to find a solution. I have watched many hours of lectures from the CoFR and mostly they talk about how to make the world better for all it's inhabitants, the importance of diversity and freedom that sort of stuff.

I've head the conspiracy theories written and pushed by people with a book to sell, none of them offer conclusive or convincing proof and most of them offer nothing in this way at all apart from guess work, paranoia and various forms of misuse of occam's razor. However when i follow up any of the leads they offer, some document to read or something invariably they turn out to be a fairly standard absolutely non conspiratorial diatribe on 'the global situation' or 'the human experience' in which the author or authors brings up a question like 'so does the population need to be lower?' or something the tin-merchants can take out of context to sell their book, then the authors discus the subject and put forward the evidence so they can debate the contributing factors. This is just science, when you're planning your picnic would u rather i didn't look out the window than tell you the weather is bad?

However, most (not all) of the documents i've read come to the over whelming conclusion that in fact the earth still has a little spare capacity if we were to live in a more pragmatic way, certainly though we should curb our breeding (ever hear the word exponential?) certainly in light of the advances in medicine allowing us to live longer. It is without a doubt that we need to consider these factors, we need to do something now so that we don't have worse problems in the future - the people at CoFR are mostly suggesting solutions such as planned parent hood (giving people more choice not less), better management of resources and education about the issues...

That's not to say many people don't just think of the easy answer -too many of something? get rid of some. Instead of worrying that these few nutters will manage to convince the 'elite' to dispose of most of us why not come up with a more pragmatic solution? or a valid counter argument? Personally i go for the 'science will save us' argument every time, if we had a higher % of educated people they would work sensibly to produce ways and means of living using less resources and to use those we have better... plus new tech would advance giving new access to other resources (hello space)

While alex is doing his job as a journalist in bringing our attention to interesting things, i think maybe we are doing a disservice to alex by not using the information he has worked so hard to uncover. Each time alex presents us with a piece of shocking news, we shouldn't nod and smile say 'see... proves I WAS RIGHT' then forget about it and in the same way just telling other people isn't enough if all they're going to then do is tell #other# people - soon the whole world will know but nothing will have changed.

The eugenic guy who got a round of applause for demanding 80% of the world needs to die? Did anyone stop shaking their head and mumbling about the NWO long enough to find out about him? to look into his reasoning? to refute and debunk his logic? -if he truly believes that and is willing to stand by it then he should be a forgotten joke right now, his faulty logic and failed reasoning should have been totally debunked and disproven point by point so entirely that he can't even use his accreditation to get a job pushing prostate pills on AM radio! haha unless he was right of course........

So can anyone show me something that proves CoFR want to kill 80% of the population? or that anyone in a respectable position does? (apart from inbred members of european royal families of course we know they do, they're all mental -which is why we need to depose them and get ourselves some elected officials but that's another thread...)

If anyone can then we need to come up with sensible retorts, not just label them NWO and fear them. lol

Yes. These people are absolutely nutty. How do you know they wouldn't do massive forced steralization on anyone they didn't like? These eugenicists only want to create a perfect world in their vision. They want a world without ailments. And that would mean to get rid of anyone else that isn't perfect. It would pervert humanity. It would also require killing off (either violently or not) these other people less desirable than others. These people are mad.

Yes, Alex is wrong to fear them.
He fears everything.

This world needs to do selective breeding to rid itself of at least some of the 4000+ heritable defects.

If you object to this, I'd say that you have never known anyone with bad inherited defects. Do you have a defect that you want your children to have?

For what reason would we want to continue on the present path when we can apply some simple knowlege and improve the species.

Stronger, healthier more beautiful people are what the world needs.

If alex jones really feared them would he bring kids into the world. No one has evr asked him that.