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Topic started on 5-5-2009 @ 10:16 AM by Stormdancer777

PHANTOM AIR FARCE PICTURES

www.nypost.com...

Here is a new one, not sure it is a political conspiracy

The $328,835 snapshots of an Air Force One backup plane buzzing lower Manhattan last week will not be shown to the public, the White House said yesterday.

"We have no plans to release them," an aide to President Obama told The Post, refusing to comment further.

The sole purpose of the secret photo-op, which sent thousands of New Yorkers running for cover, was to take new publicity shots of the presidential jet over the city.

"The photos . . . are classified -- that's ridiculous," Councilman Peter Vallone Jr., said.

The photos have not technically been "classified," a White House aide said, but they are being kept from public view.

New Yorkers said they could not understand how a president who shares intimate snapshots from the White House could justify classifying these.

"So we're not gonna see the fruits of this cruel joke?" said Frank Antonelli, 39, one of the Wall Street traders spooked by last week's flyover.

"I'm not surprised. Obama . . . wouldn't further all the bad publicity by putting out those pictures."

not sure what it means, New Yorkers said they could not understand how a president who shares intimate snapshots from the White House could justify classifying these.

I am confused, I also thought it was an odd thing to do, that fly over.

What exactly is the Obama admin up to?

Maybe there aren't any photos to show.

Maybe the fly over was some other kind of mission.

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reply posted on 5-5-2009 @ 10:20 AM by ZeroKnowledge

I have a crazy idea. Maybe Obama is not that sure in official 9/11 version and he does not trust all his experts so he asked the pilot to do something he wanted to check for himself.
Just an idea. Otherwise it seems like stupid and inconsiderate move.

reply posted on 5-5-2009 @ 10:24 AM by Stormdancer777

Originally posted by ZeroKnowledge
I have a crazy idea. Maybe Obama is not that sure in official 9/11 version and he does not trust all his experts so he asked the pilot to do something he wanted to check for himself.
Just an idea. Otherwise it seems like stupid and inconsiderate move.

Oh that's an interesting observation, then that would mean he was lying about knowing nothing about the flight,

Notice how he always knows nothing about everything. ;o)

I bet he was on the plane.

and who else was?

George Soros? Arab shieks?

the comments section is interesting.

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reply posted on 5-5-2009 @ 11:32 AM by Stormdancer777

www.cbsnews.com...

If a 747 and supersonic jet fighter buzz the Manhattan skyline as part of an ill-conceived photo-op, but the pictures are never seen, did it really happen?

The White House hopes not.

The photos of Air Force One's low flyover of Manhattan will not be released, CBS News White House correspondent Mark Knoller confirms.

The operation, carried out by the Defense Department and designed to capture one of the president's planes near national landmarks like the Statue of Liberty, sent panicked New Yorkers rushing from their office buildings April 27, fearful of a terrorist attack reminiscent of 9/11.

But now the photo-op will apparently yield no photos. The New York Post first reported the White House's plans to keep the pictures under wraps, citing an unnamed administration official as saying "we have no plans to release them."

The operation, which included an accompanying Air Force jet fighter, cost $328,000.

Mr. Obama was reportedly furious over the incident and ordered an internal review.

Here is another take on the subject, I don't know why I find this fascinating, I just think everyday there is something strange going on.

reply posted on 5-5-2009 @ 11:36 AM by Ihniwid

The OP is right, there is something very odd about the whole issue. Do we know, for sure, it was a presidential 747? The crest and such, are there photos? I have seen snapshots of the actual plane and the fighter jet but nothing close enough to even proove it was the jet they're claiming it was...

reply posted on 5-5-2009 @ 11:39 AM by scobro

Perhaps a UFO showed up in the pictures?

Strange story though!

reply posted on 5-5-2009 @ 11:44 AM by pieman

could it be that it was just plain old incompetence.

some idiot decided that it would be cool to have a photo of airforce one in front of a few touristy landmarks and thought actually taking photo's of the plane was a better idea than photo shop.

then when someone with a bit of sense said "you idiots, what have you done, $328k when the economy is in the toilet, you're fired".

then the guy who was fired said "screw you buddy", and deleted everything, now the photo's are "not being released".

it just goes to show, the government are idiots.

reply posted on 5-5-2009 @ 11:50 AM by habu71

reply to post by pieman

It takes far too many approvals and arrangements for either SAM 28000 or 29000 to fly......

reply posted on 5-5-2009 @ 12:05 PM by pieman

Originally posted by habu71
It takes far too many approvals and arrangements for either SAM 28000 or 29000 to fly......

never, ever underestimate the incompetence of faceless bureaucrats.

na, i just felt like inventing an incompetence theory to balance the conspiracy theories, we should have a section called below reasonable standards.

i'ld start a site but i suspect any server space i could procure would be overwhelmed in mere moments.

reply posted on 5-5-2009 @ 12:16 PM by Ihniwid

Originally posted by habu71
reply to post by pieman

It takes far too many approvals and arrangements for either SAM 28000 or 29000 to fly......

So what do you think it couldve been Habu?

Something is odd about it but I can't really put a finger on what exactly it could be.

reply posted on 5-5-2009 @ 12:26 PM by Britguy

Originally posted by habu71
reply to post by pieman

It takes far too many approvals and arrangements for either SAM 28000 or 29000 to fly......

Yeah, they said that about nuclear tipped cruise missiles too, didn't they!

reply posted on 5-5-2009 @ 12:30 PM by Dorian Soran

What if, and I am just spit balling here, What if it WASN'T a photo op at all.

- Someone took over the REAL AF1 with Obama on it, and our boys finally took it back over - there wouldnt be any photos.

- Our boys were testing a fully remote controlled AF1 with the prez on board and thet got to close to NYC - - there wouldnt be any photos.

The fighters and AF1 were the real deal and there was a secret coup de tat in mid air and the Obama telling us "dont worry I am mad as well" isnt the real Obama - there wouldnt be any photos.

There are no good reasons to have a photo op and NOT have any photos - but there are TONS of reasons not to have photos if this event WASNT'T a photo op.

By the way, do we have access to any type of White House log that will tell us EXACTLY where the POTUS was while this flight was in progress?

Dorian Soran

reply posted on 5-5-2009 @ 04:38 PM by Stormdancer777

reply to post by Dorian Soran

By the way, do we have access to any type of White House log that will tell us EXACTLY where the POTUS was while this flight was in progress?

That would be nice to know. Good question.

reply posted on 5-5-2009 @ 06:28 PM by habu71

Honestly, I do not know....I saw the FAA alert, read the text and the filed routes, the alert won't tell us anything, it would be the USAF mission plan, but we'll never get that.......

I simply sense a coverup of the real purpose.......But, as I have said, it takes high level approval to launch a VC25 from the 89th, even for a training mission.......

As an aside, as I recall, I believe anytime 28000 or 29000 is airborne, some kind of armed fighter escort is required, because of the incredible ELINT capabilities of the aircraft.....

reply posted on 5-5-2009 @ 06:34 PM by RRconservative

So Obama thinks it's OK not to release photograhs that might make him look bad. But he thought it was perfectly OK to release Abu Graib photos, that endangered our troops and made them look bad?

Our taxpayer money paid for these pictures. I've never filed a Freedom of Information Act request before, but this would be a great time to do it.

reply posted on 5-5-2009 @ 06:43 PM by habu71

reply to post by RRconservative

My FOIA request went out in the mail today......Don't expect much, if anything, back............

It is patently ridiculous to not classify the pics, yet refuse to release them....unless they don't exist (my theory, as well as others).......

All hail the king.....NOT!!!!!!

reply posted on 6-5-2009 @ 08:36 AM by Stormdancer777

Originally posted by RRconservative
So Obama thinks it's OK not to release photograhs that might make him look bad. But he thought it was perfectly OK to release Abu Graib photos, that endangered our troops and made them look bad?

Our taxpayer money paid for these pictures. I've never filed a Freedom of Information Act request before, but this would be a great time to do it.

Oh how do you do that?

reply posted on 6-5-2009 @ 08:37 AM by Stormdancer777

Originally posted by habu71
reply to post by RRconservative

My FOIA request went out in the mail today......Don't expect much, if anything, back............

It is patently ridiculous to not classify the pics, yet refuse to release them....unless they don't exist (my theory, as well as others).......

All hail the king.....NOT!!!!!!

I will do it too, someone tell me how.

reply posted on 6-5-2009 @ 08:52 AM by m4ng4n

anytime.tv4.se...

Snippet from swedish news TV4

reply posted on 6-5-2009 @ 09:04 AM by Stormdancer777