Howdy N

Hans: Very poor response for someone who thinks your translations of Sumerian reflect advance technology – you claim to know mythology yet don’t know the importance of blood sacrifices in many cultures, and probably in the early Sumerian culture – which is reflected in their myths of creation. You also don’t understand why clay is mentioned. It is in the creation myth because many found the making of pottery from clay a “magical” event. Many cultures worked that “magic” into their myths. Take ‘dirt” mix it with water, work it and heat it up and you transform the dirt into something extraordinary, you create something. Again a common theme in myths. Why didn't you know the death of the god took that into account?

The experiment shows that a person making up a explanation of where people came from, without relying on science, will come out with Gods who often have been Anthropomorphized with human qualities. Just like most human cultures. You fail È completamente non!

He says that when the sumerians talk about 'iron birds' or 'heavenly chambers' they tal about rocketships etc...

Hans: Well you see that is where you spin off into another world. Those words don’t mean that, if they did where is the evidence of them? Where are the fuel production plants? The mines, the technology? Nothing.

Ever heard of the Cargo Cult?

Hans: Certainly but I understand what they are and what they mean. Are you saying the Sumerians were a cargo culture? They weren’t, oh and guess what, millions of pieces of evidence of those cargo cult “gods” existence, evidence for Annunki, ZERO

Hans: Because you are ignorant of the changes and improvements in the knowledge of the Sumerian knowledge isn’t my fault. It’s yours, go do some research. Stop using outdated materials you contention that a translation from 100 year ago is valid, is an exhibit of incredible hebetude

Hans: You didn’t you explain why there are no sites or artifacts that are associated with the Annunaki? Please explain the total lack of artifacts for creatures that Sitchins claims lived on earth for 450,000 years and left no trace. I'll just keep asking that question because N that is the central question. However you don't seem to understand that.

here you make a big errors...

Hans: No bambino you have

Pyramids spread worldwide from 10.000 b.C. on, in Bosnia, Japan, Cuba, Sumer, Egypts, Italy.

Hans: Excuse me N, are you actually this ignorant of modern archaeology research? I hate to be mean but none, of those sites are from 10,000 BC and there are no pyramids in Cuba or Bosnia and the others are well dated- and not a single artifact from the Annunaki - but thousands of artifacts of the local human culture...how odd, LOL

Zigguratt in Sumer, India, Central and southern america, Italy, all with the same motives recurring in different places and times..

Hans: Nope, different times of constructions, different religions, some for burials, some for ceremony. None of which can be associated to Sitchin’s fake Annunaki. Show us your proof.

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Presence of sumerians and africans in mesoamerica around 5000 years ago...

Hans: Nope wrong again, why are you thowing out fringe theory that even if true would have nothing to do with the Annunaki?

Where are the artifact of the Annunaki – all you’ve done is throw out decades old repeatedly debunked fringe theory. You didn’t provide a single piece of hard evidence for Annunaki.

-Where are the habitations?
-Where are their waste pits?
-Did they eat anything?
-Where is their technology? No screws, no plastic, no ceramic, no refined metals, no glass, nothing – odd isn’t it?

-Every other culture leaves material but not the Annunaki? Why is that?

........some Ning morology about pyramids........

Wow, a picture of a pyramid on map, yep that sure is hard evidence for the Annunaki – there is certainly no other possible solution, “sarcasmo”


Hans: So any hard evidence of nearly a half million years of Annunaki presence? All you gave was a bunch of long discredited fringe theory.
Where is the hard evidence? Civilizations leave hard evidence – where is it N?

Finally you have again failed to acknowledge your error of thinking that Sitchin came up with the idea that Neptune was blue. As I said before, a true scholar would acknowledge the error. As I stated before N I wanted to determine if you were a scholar as you claimed or just a self-serving crackpot. So which is it? Was your claim wrong or not?

You also don’t understand why clay is mentioned. It is in the creation myth because many found the making of pottery from clay a “magical” event.

Dolne Vestonice, near the town of Mikulov in the Czech republic, has a fine example of a 26000 year old factory. Built upon a Mammoth graveyard, the inhabitants used Mammoth bones as fuel for their kilns; due to the bones having a caloric value higher than coke.
more than 10000 pieces of fired clay have been found.
the high amount of waste found around the site, would indicate that the clay figurines, where purposely manufactured with air intact, to facilitate explosion during the firing process.
This, among other findings, indicates it purpose was probably one of religious importance.
Another example that comes to mind for me is the ledgend of The Golim.
No, not the Lord Of The Rings Tolkien version, but, the original Jewish Folklore tale.

Originally posted by KRISKALI777

Sitchin mentions that Annunaki came to mine gold for their home planets atmosphere

OK, let's stop a moment. These guys have advanced space travel and genetic modification technology but they come to Earth to mine gold.

Gold is a naturally existing element throughout the universe.

People used it as a form of ornamentation and later currency.

Not explained is why an advanced intelligence would go to such great lengths but choose the most primitive and inefficient method possible of obtaining it.

It is like saying they would come to earth and want to transport themselves with air balloons and horse driven chariots. And they'd genetically modify the small horses over millenia to become large enough to pull the chariots.

This is all embarrassing nonsense.

Masters from another planet creating slaves to mine gold is the stuff of bad fairy tales.

Jack and the Beanstalk is more logical and technologically sound.

Before Sitchin decided to jump in on the von Daniken publishing gold mine of mixing science fiction with archeology, no one had ever found a trace of any of this or his non-existent planet.

Tell me this, why didn't they use their advanced technology to create storms and then look for the pot of gold at the end of the rainbow?


Mike



[edit on 17-5-2009 by mmiichael]

Originally posted by ningishzidda74

provide me a link to someone who said Neptune would be blue before Sitchin did... otherwise you are just craps.

Please provide us with links where anyone had said Neptune was not and could not be blue. What colour did people pre-Sitchin claim it to be?

I think you meant "shooting craps" not calling people "craps", but I'll reserve the word as a description of Sitchin's data.

Mike

Originally posted by ugie1028
hate to burst your nibiru bubble, but it passed in 2003!

Discussed and demonstrated elsewhere online, this is the product of lens flare involving reflections on the inside of the camera.

Nassim Haramein is interesting as a self-promoting New Age phenomenon with his cosmological Unified Theory of Everything.

He avoids questions like how is it possible for this kind of object to remain hidden without tens of thousands of professional and amateurs not having seen it. Or explaining undetected gravitational pull on the orbits of other planets in the solar system.

Meet the Sitchin of the 21st Century.

The truth is boring. Just tell a fun science fiction story and they'll buy it. Actual proof, facts, evidence? Who cares?


Mike