I'm working on a new thread and this popped out...our friend the mini-alien. From this perspective IMO it looks less like an alien than before. The image was titled 'toy' and I don't know if they know something we don't?

I believe this is a hoax. Compare both pictures. They are supposed to be the same "specimen".

This is the "specimen" that was analyzed on Monster Hunters




This is the original "specimen". . . .



When compared we can notice there are huge differences between the two. Curiously, BOTH "specimens" have been "trapped" by a similar trap. . . . . .

[edit on 8/11/2009 by DarkElvis]

Originally posted by DarkElvis
I believe this is a hoax. Compare both pictures. They are supposed to be the same "specimen".

This is the "specimen" that was analyzed on Monster Hunters

This is the original "specimen". . . .

When compared we can notice there are huge differences between the two. Curiously, BOTH "specimens" have been "trapped" by a similar trap. . . . . .

[edit on 8/11/2009 by DarkElvis]

What differences are you noting? I believe the top one was after the creature(or skinned monkey) was dead for awhile. I'm not sure how long, but it looks like it had been dead for quite some time. The body structures appear similar or the same. They could have done a heck of a better job of preserving it though.

Watched the MonsterQuest ep a few days ago on youtube. I don't see why MonsterQuest related this creature to the flying humanoids. It appears to have an earthly origin. Also this creature didn't match the other reports and showed no signs of being able to fly. To me, assuming it isn't just a skinned monkey(have no experience in that area), it appears to be just a very odd new species of primate or something similar. If this isn't a hoax, I can't believe they were stupid enough to kill this poor creature . I hope MonsterQuest wasn't misleading us about the dna and other results. Would be a very interesting new species indeed.

Originally posted by kitfox


What differences are you noting? I believe the top one was after the creature(or skinned monkey) was dead for awhile. I'm not sure how long, but it looks like it had been dead for quite some time. The body structures appear similar or the same. They could have done a heck of a better job of preserving it though.

Watched the MonsterQuest ep a few days ago on youtube. I don't see why MonsterQuest related this creature to the flying humanoids. It appears to have an earthly origin. Also this creature didn't match the other reports and showed no signs of being able to fly. To me, assuming it isn't just a skinned monkey(have no experience in that area), it appears to be just a very odd new species of primate or something similar. If this isn't a hoax, I can't believe they were stupid enough to kill this poor creature . I hope MonsterQuest wasn't misleading us about the dna and other results. Would be a very interesting new species indeed.

Differences? The head position. The second one seems to be looking at the trap, while the second one seems to be looking away from the trap. The body seems to be in a crouching position on the first photo, while the second one is standing. The coloring and the "texture" of the body. The second one has a whitish - pinkish skin tone, while the first one is a light green tone. The first one has a more organic look while the second one looks like a plastic toy. Finally, the body on the first pic seems smaller than the second.

IMO, there are two main things that make me think this is a hoax: First, the differences between the two photos and their characteristics, and, second, since Maussan is involved in this case (not being a credible researcher, IMO) I have my doubts about it being real.

Not saying it isn't a hoax, but couldn't some of those things be caused by death and being moved after death? I've seen dead animal bodies before that were in a mummified/dried state and I can assure you that they look much different from what the creature looked like while alive. What we would need to know is how far apart the pictures were taken. As you can see the mummified form is not on the trap anymore. While the body was still fresh the limbs, etc could have easily changed positions when moved. I think it is the same specimen, but that doesn't mean it isn't a hoax. It could just be a skinned monkey that they set up for the trap pic and then let it bake in the sun for awhile.

since Maussan is involved in this case (not being a credible researcher, IMO) I have my doubts about it being real.

This is the part that interests me. I'll have to look into Maussan. It would be great if the creature was real, but like you I have doubts that it'll be anything other than a hoax. If the researcher has credibility issues that raises questions about the credibility of the DNA tests.

[edit on 12-8-2009 by kitfox]

Originally posted by stellagent
The Alien skeleton specimen that aired on History Channel's Monster Quest 29-7-2009 reminds me of an encounter I had in 1990 next to Curtis Creek, North Carolina. I was collecting fire wood driving along the forest road for a campfire and arrived at a primitive campsite next to the roaring mountain creek 2 miles north of the Curtis Creek campground. Before unloading my gear etc., I took a nap inside my Toyota truck. I awoke hearing something scratching the rear window glass and observed a rather long slender ringed tail with a very pointy end. Having the windows up and doors locked before I took my nap, I tried to see what it was. I strained my neck up over the dashboard looking up towards the front of the cab and observed an unknown life form looking down at me. I smiled at It and said "well hello, what are you?" It smiled at me with small child like teeth and had a heart shape face, huge eyes with the upper brow forming the heart shape face, thin jaw line and tiny nose from the angle I was able to view. It also had a thin neck and a small human like chest with two nipples and tiny ribs. Its shoulders were frail/bony with thin arms and tiny hands holding onto the windshield as It peered down at me. Its skin was ashen pale gray in color and guestimating It to be about 16 inches tall, I only observed from the mid torso to It's head. It makes sense that the feet would also be human like which I found to be interesting from the media. I turned away briefly to retrieve my camera and It disappears that quickly. I unloaded my gear to set up a Daniel Boone lean-to next to Curtis Creek and did not see it again during my brief stay of 2 days. I haven't seen anything like it since, until I observed the Alien skeleton specimen from Mexico on the History Channel. Now I'm convinced that It/They do exist, possibly within the earth's sub-terrain.

lol I live around there, I will tell ya if i see anything =P

I'll believe an alien hybrid pic from Jamie HYNEMAN first. At least that man's got his head bolted down correctly.

I'm not gonna post the pic"for fear of nastyness" ...but from seeing 1st hand many small/baby squirrells skinned, that is what I believe it is, its just, the one everyone is calling the original, is fresher than the MQ one...
And most likely done by the same hoaxer/s

If this hoax had any real legs, we wouldn't be having this discussion on some conspiracy internet site. We would be watching a special on NatGeo or something with REAL specialists and REAL biology folks doing a full review of this thing.

The reason that none of this happened, is because this is TOTAL BUNK. It is about money. They have it setup where they can run around troll sites and conferences where they have a built in and gullible audience, but they can't go for the real cash with a major investigation that would be funded by whatever media takes the case because it is NOT REAL. Forget about them saying they don't have enough money for real examination or any other convenient excuse they might throw at you, if this thing had any validity money would flow into their pockets far more than they do on the gullible UFO nutter circuit.

People, please exercise common sense, reason and logic when viewing tripe like this, it will help you look a little less foolish, and show the idiots that push this junk that not all of us are dough-eyed believers eager to jump on anything they throw at us.

Crap like this is just another black mark on the subject, one we are apparently more than willing to invite and inflict on ourselves. Remove the audience for this crap and maybe we will see less of it.

[edit on 22-9-2009 by IgnoreTheFacts]

IIRC the term they used was "no identiable genetic material." In other words, no DNA. In other words, it was probably some sort of clay.

I didn't get the connection to the flying humanoids, either.