not claiming that this thing is real, but you couldnt get people to open there mind on anything in this forum, unless this thing jumped into bed with them and they screamed for mommy what a bunch of closed minded people

this 'creature' has no blood to drip from where the trap caught 'it' , nor any food or water near the trap to catch it? not a crumb? or a splash of water in sight?

fake.

The skull looks red raw,or sunburnt,
in contrast to the rest of the body, though the ears are not visible.
There seems to be digits missing on the left foot,
and something like a blood trail to the right of that foot,
perhaps the foot was also caught in the trap at some stage.
The trap and the creature are sitting on
what looks like a hole in the ground,
maybe a water-hole?
BTW,and I make no apology for being"off topic"that kind of trap
is disgusting and inhumane...look again at the picture,
and ask yourself,why are we so advanced?

So somebody skinned a Lemur or a small Primate and posed it in a trap. Whats the point and who would fall for that? Sad really if they skinned it just to pull a hoax. I hope they at least ate it afterward or found it already dead.

This fellow seems quite upset about what they did to one of his family.

I hear they are forming an Army to get even.

Sorry, I could not control myself.

I honestly don't know what to think at all. This story will never see the light of day if there really is a body, DNA, and it's origins are unknown to Earth.

Besides, they can say all they want how much evidence they have but the fact is that no one will be satisfied if it is proven to be "alien" since they will not have seen the evidence first hand.

I can't stop thinking about what this poor creature went through (if it is real). How horrible. Screaming in pain and drowned for no reason? What a great way to show the nature of how humans treat things unknown to them.

I would have to say...it's a dog with mange...seems to be the final decision on EVERY thing crypto around these here parts.

why are we still discussing this. THis is from a hoaxer. Joshua P. Warren has been stated many many times as a hoaxer. and on top of that this is not a thread of poor use of steel traps. stay on topic.

As a taxidermist who has been practicing taxidermy for over 20 years I can clearly state that it is simply a skinned monkey of some sort. Basically it looks like it was skinned for a taxidermy mount and someone looking at the carcass came up with an idea...

I've seen tons of animals with and without skin, with and without trap injuries, in all sorts conditions from fresh to fully rotted. The missing/abbreviated fingers/toes would result from the skinning process - often the last joints must be removed from the rest of the carcass and then carefully separated from the hide to avoid damaging the hide. This is especially true of small animals.

Based on the out-sized cranium, it is likely a juvenile animal. In animals that are not fully grown, especially mammals, the cranium is always proportionately much larger than in an adult. Large head, small facial features, small mouths and teeth and large eyes - you see this in puppies, kittens and pretty much any young of any animal.

Speaking of teeth - the idea that this is a juvenile specimen is reinforced by what they said about the rootless reptile-like teeth. In juvenile mammals, even those with all their adult teeth already come in, it will be a while until the roots become solid. Until then, they are hollow and open-rooted - just like an alligator's! Also, during the process of the permanent teeth coming in, some of the deciduous teeth take longer than others to be pushed up and fall out. I have a bobcat skull with 4 upper canines - when it died the milk teeth had not yet been pushed out completely by the permanent teeth. It is indeed bizarre looking, and it does have more teeth than an adult bobcat would, naturally.

As a long-time taxidermist, that's my opinion on this one.

Um....anyone got a link to the picture??

I followed the link and the only pic I saw was a scary guy.....

No picture materialized. Link may be bad.