Strange Creature Caught in Mexico, page 1

Hey everyone,

Just thought I'd post an interesting page I found, detailing the capture of a strange animal found in a steel trap in Mexico. A photo is included.

shadowboxent.brinkster.net...

Sometime around May 11, 2007, a wealthy Mexican rancher named Marao Lopez found this creature, less than one foot tall, in a steel trap. The property was in Metepec, a suburb of Toluca, the state capital of Mexico State in Mexico. There was no vast wilderness or jungle nearby, making the find even stranger. The creature was alive, shrieking and scared. A small group of men took it back to the ranch. They marveled over it and took many photographs. The creature was found around 5pm in the evening, and (for reasons not yet made clear) the ranchers decided to kill and preserve it the morning of the third day, approx. 36 hours later. They dunked it in water for a few minutes, but it emerged alive, still screaming. They dunked it a second time--longer, but it again regained consciousness. They dunked it a third time, for many hours, and it finally drowned. It's ability to survive so long underwater has made many feel it was amphibious.

At that time, two of the experts speculated this could be a "skinned monkey." However, they conceded that it bore characteristics that did not match a monkey. It's number of teeth, type of teeth, and number of bones in the spine did not match a primate. The teeth also did not have roots (like some reptiles and fish), and the ankle section looked entirely human. Around mid-April, 2009, Jaime took the specimen to Dr. Jesus Higuera, head of the Imaging Department at the Mexican Institute of Nutrition. There, the mummified creature was scanned with the best 3-D computer tomography on the continent, for a thorough look inside the body. Jaime says Dr. Higuera "was absolutely amazed." Compared to the skull, he said the back of the brain was larger, and more sophisticated, than any other creature known. There was no explanation for the specimen, and the scientist concluded it was definitely not a primate, and probably a new species. Jaime says Higuera's staff feels this is in fact an adult, as opposed to an infant, as originally presumed due to its stature. Jaime said it was most likely a "very smart creature."

Whether this is a hoax or something else, I find it to be very interesting. Yet I also think it's quite sad. The amount of pain this creature was going through must have been phenomenal, and it must have been scared out of its mind. The drowning of the animal also seems very cruel to me.

What are your thoughts? Real? Hoax?

reply to post by paperplanes

---

I agree that what happens in traps is disgusting... I mean, animals have been known to suffer in them for DAYS before finally being relieved of their suffering. Some have chewed limbs off.

But at the same time, I don't think it is a fair way to judge people who use them. Just like guns, they have been American culture for generations. Just like chopping down forests, people make a living in all different ways that some may not agree to. Hell, traps have been known to be used for feeding families.....


Anyway, just my opinion. Not arguing.

Originally posted by LostNemesis
reply to post by paperplanes

---

....
But at the same time, I don't think it is a fair way to judge people who use them. Just like guns, they have been American culture for generations. Just like chopping down forests, people make a living in all different ways that some may not agree to. Hell, traps have been known to be used for feeding families....

Thank you. Also a note to people who will go out and use a steel trap: Check your traps every day.

Thanks SnazzMeister, interesting. But the Story has too many weak points. Here’s another one: “…The creature was alive, shrieking and scared. A small group of men took it back to the ranch. They marveled over it and took many photographs” (from shadowboxent.brinkster.net...). Forget it, in reality they CERTAINLY would have shot some VIDEO footage, especially before killing it. But there isn’t even video footage of the dead creature, hence the story's obviously made up.

Btw, I don’t think it’s a serious “hoax”, but rather more another attempt to discredit/ridicule the UFO truthers community by producing “extra stupid” evidence.

[edit on 4-5-2009 by WonderfulWorld]

Originally posted by LostNemesis
reply to post by paperplanes

---

I don't think it is a fair way to judge people who use them. Just like guns, they have been American culture for generations. Just like chopping down forests, people make a living in all different ways that some may not agree to. Hell, traps have been known to be used for feeding families.....

People who use them for any length of time soon come to realise the damage they produce--users can't cry ignorant here. Even the milder variation that has been produced ("padded" traps) can cause damage to animals. I don't care if it's a racoon or my beloved dog--no animal deserves that. When you see mangled pets come through a veterinary clinic, or worse, lying dead in their owner's arms, you quickly understand that this is entirely indefensible. The conibear traps are arguably the worst, but the simple steel leg traps are bad enough as it is. I grew up in an area where wildlife trapping, hunting, and fishing are deeply rooted in the culture. I've known many men who used traps until their own animals, and in one case their own child, were damaged or killed by the traps. It sometimes takes something so personally traumatic to show you the light, but you're being disingenious if you claim to not know the harm you're causing--this is precisely why it is a valuable mark of character. The difference between a wild animal and your own pet is only your personal attachment to it. They both deserve more respect than a steel trap offers.

reply to post by paperplanes

---

This really is not a thread for discussing whether the traps are bad or not.. Still though, I believe in responsibility. The freedom to own and use whatever we want, as long as we understand the consequences and use them responsibly.

What does it say to me, when someone has their own pets or kids caught in steel traps? Irresponsibility. Either they used their traps in a place where pets and kids frequent..... Or they do not supervise their kids and pets, when they can potentially get hurt. In the case of kids, it can be considered neglect. As a parent and pet owner, I know where mine are at all times.

Responsibility should come with any tool. You talk about mangled and severely injured kids and pets. That same argument probably HAS been used for guns... but these things are nothing more than a tool, used by people. Responsible, or irresponsible use, determines outcome.

As said in a post above, check the traps frequently to make sure animals do not suffer for any extended period.

--- I still see any kind of hunting to be FAR more humane than our factory farming industry.

And it sounds like the consensus is that the creature in the OP is either someone's art project, or created specifically for the use of this hoax.

Strange creatures from Marianas Trench
  Posted 4 days ago with 26 member flags

\'Woolly mammoth\' caught on camera in Siberia
  Posted 2 days ago with 18 member flags

icelandic lake monster spotted! (VIDEO)
  Posted 4 days ago with 16 member flags

The Bridgewater Triangle
  Posted 17 days ago with 10 member flags

Scientists to Add Spider Genes to Human Genome to Create ‘Bulletproof Skin’
  Posted 8 days ago with 7 member flags

Bigfoot Attack...or is the Lizard Man in Georgia?
  Posted 9 days ago with 5 member flags

\'mutant spider fears at nuclear wastelab\'
  Posted 4 days ago with 4 member flags

Shape-Shifting Dinosaurs by Jack Horner (TED Talk)
  Posted 0 days ago with 4 member flags

Newest topics, updated in real-time:

Newest topics getting flags, in real-time:

Newest topics getting replies, in real-time: