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posted on Apr, 26 2004 @ 07:22 PM
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So, DC are you going to post one or some of the topics so we can have it, examine the evidence, do our sleuthing and come to a conclusion about the validity of this beige disk?

I stand ever curious, wanting to know more. rad




posted on Apr, 26 2004 @ 07:29 PM
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all right for those of you who were breaking the cahones about vampire killer 2000 its a group of policemen who are dedicated to stopping a one world government .... i went to there website and it seems legit and it seems they feel theres a threat and are taking a plan of action against the NWO



posted on Apr, 26 2004 @ 07:36 PM
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Thanks for the info on vamp2000. See that's good info to know. I've got a question...sort of related to all this...what's with the Nesara documents. I was at that site yesterday and did some searching here on ats for info regarding it. Is it the opinion of this group that Nesara is basically a hoax?

Sorry if this is posted in the wrong place.



posted on Apr, 26 2004 @ 07:44 PM
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We all know how easy it is to get swept up, but let's be careful before we jump to conclusions.

Yes sir, that's what I'm counting on. And thank you, you are helping nicely in the jumping to conlcusions part. Next...



I haven't jumped to any conclusions. You said at the top of the thread that the document was called CIA text or somesuch. That is what I am referring to, not to believe it at face value.

Spiderj



posted on Apr, 26 2004 @ 08:03 PM
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Originally posted by Chronic7
Can you please post the section on the floppy called
"Saviors of the Earth?"
Ok, these are the exerpts from the source "Saviors of the Earth"...

SOURCE#23: EVM Book: Saviors of the Earth? (1994), by Michael S. Coffman. Available From: Environmental Perspectives, Inc., 1229 Broadway, Suite 313, Bangor, ME 04401. Phone: 1-207-945-9878. Cost abt $20. (Lack of disk space limited quotes.)

(SAVIORS) "The 'New York Times Magazine' says, 'The major environmental groups have become industries unto themselves, with well-paid professional staffs wielding extraordinary influence on Capitol Hill and in federal agencies.'" (pg 108) (These groups are well funded Committee of 300 organizations.)

"Now eco-leaders [such as some of those at the top of the Sierra Club, Earth First!, Greenpeace, National Audubon Society, and Wilderness Society] are taking direct aim at individual freedoms - those supposedly guaranteed by the United States Constitution. Step by step, law by law, regulation by regulation, these freedoms [property rights] are being stripped away." (pg 166) (Most of the people who support these groups are genuinely interested in preserving the environment. However, these and other environmental groups are often significantly controlled by the shadow government and, consequently, you would be a fool to donate one penny to them. Most of their leaders are total new age, spotted owl, kangaroo rat, mother earth worshipping nut-cases as well!)

"...a pattern has emerged revealing the strategy of environmental leaders... First these leaders create the perception of an environmental holocaust by manufacturing plausible horror scenarios based to a small degree in truth [i.e. global warming, de-forestation, species extinction]. Once the 'catastrophe' is raised to the level of hysteria, environmental leaders use the sense of urgency to demand that legislation be passed NOW, before it is too late [- and to hell with the constitution, national sovereignty and property rights; the undermining of which is often the real purpose behind the legislation in the first place]..." (pg 168)That's not really much. I guess if you're interested you can buy the book. I wonder if this fruitcake is getting kickbacks from these publishers...

DC



posted on Apr, 26 2004 @ 08:19 PM
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Originally posted by DontTreadOnMe
Damn, DC, this is way better than the post on senses


How about 2 and 5 to start...
Hey! That senses thread had real intents and purposes. It proved my theory, more or less...

Ok, section 2, "None Dare Call it Conspiracy"
SOURCE#2: Book: None Dare Call It Conspiracy (1972), by Gary Allen. Available From: The internet at amazon.com. Cost Abt $18.

"...the first job of any conspiracy...is to convince everyone else that no conspiracy exists." (pg 14)

"Karl Marx was hired by a mysterious group who called themselves the League of Just Men to write the 'Communist Manifesto'... All Karl Marx really did was to update and codify the very same revolutionary plans and principles set down seventy years earlier by Adam Weishaupt, the founder of the [Satanic] Order of Illuminati in Bavaria." (pgs 25-26)

"In 1784 an 'Act of God' placed the Bavarian government in possession of evidence which proved the existence of the continuing Luciferian conspiracy. Adam Weishaupt, a Jesuit trained professor of canon law, defected from Christianity, and embraced the Luciferian ideology while teaching at Ingoldstadt University. In 1770 the money lenders (who had recently organized the House of Rothschilds) retained him to revise and modernize the age-old 'protocols' designed to give the Synagogue of Satan ultimate world domination so they could loose the Luciferian ideology upon what remained of the Human race, after the social cataclysm, by use of Satanic despotism. Weishaupt completed his task May 1st, 1776."

"The plan required the destruction of ALL existing governments and religions..."

"...In 1776 Weishaupt organized the Illuminati to put the plot into execution. The word Illuminati is derived from Lucifer, and means 'holders of the light.' Using the lie that his objective was to bring about a One World government to enable men with proven mental ability to govern the world, he recruited about two thousand followers. These included the most intelligent men in the fields of Arts and Letters; Education; the sciences, finance and industry. He then established Lodges of the Grand Orient to be their secret headquarters."

"Weishaupt's revised plan required his Illuminati to do the following things to help them accomplish their purpose, (1) Use monetary and sex bribery to obtain control of people already occupying positions in high places in the various levels of ALL governments and other fields of human endeavor."

"...(4) The Illuminati were to obtain control of the Press and all other agencies which distribute information to the public. News and information was to be slanted so that the [human cattle] would come to believe that a One World Government is the ONLY solution to our many and varied problems."

"...A German author named Zwack put Weishaupt's revised version of the age-old conspiracy into book form and named it 'Einige Original-Scripten.' In 1784 a copy of this document was sent to the Iluminists Weishaupt had delegated to foment the French revolution. The courier was struck dead by lightning as he rode through Ratisbon on his way from Frankfurt to Paris. The police found the subversive documents on his body and turned them over to the proper government authorities."

"After careful study of the plot the Bavarian government ordered the police to raid Weishaupt's newly organized lodges of the Grand Orient and the homes of some of his most influential associates... Additional evidence thus obtained convinced the authorities the documents were a genuine copy of a conspiracy by which the Synagogue of Satan, who controlled the Illuminati AT THE TOP, planned to use wars and revolutions to bring about the establishment of one kind or another of a One World Government, the powers of which they intended to usurp as soon as it was established."

"In 1785, the Bavarian government outlawed the Illuminati and closed the Lodges of the Grand Orient. In 1786, they published the details of the conspiracy."

"[These details included...] ...[Weishaupt's agent] admonished his listeners with these words 'The power of our resources [i.e. the conspiracy and its assets] must remain invisible until the very moment when it has gained such strength that no cunning or force can undermine it.' He warned them that any deviation from the line of the strategical plan he was making known to them would risk bringing to naught 'THE LABOURS OF CENTURIES.'"

"...The infiltration into continental Freemasonry was next discussed extensively. The speaker stated that their purpose would be to take advantage of the facilities and secrecy Freemasonry had to offer. He pointed out that they could organize their own Grand Orient Lodges within Blue Freemasonry in order to carry on their subversive activities and hide the true nature of their work under the cloak of philanthropy."

"...Diplomacy was next discussed. After all wars secret diplomacy must be insisted upon 'in order that our agentur, masquerading as 'political,' 'financial,' and 'economic' advisers, can carry out our mandates without fear of exposing who are 'The Secret Power' behind national and international affairs.' The speaker then told those present that by secret diplomacy they must obtain such control 'that the nations cannot come to even an inconsiderable private agreement without our secret agents having a hand in it.'... Ultimate World Government [is] the goal." (Quoted from the book, 'Pawns in the Game,' by William Guy Carr, a retired commander in the Canadian Naval Force.)

"The drive to establish SOCIALISM, not Communism, is at the core of everything the Communists and the Insiders do." "Communism [or Socialism] is, by definition, total government." (pg 26, 29)

"Lenin later said that the establishment of a central bank (the 5th plank of the Communist Manifesto) was 90% of communizing a country." (pg 41) "Thomas Jefferson wrote to John Adams: "...I sincerely believe, with you, that banking establishments are more dangerous than standing armies..."" (pg 42)

"Rockefeller agent Frank Vanderlip admitted many years later... '...I do not feel it is any exaggeration to speak of our secret expedition to Jekyl Island as the occasion of the actual conception of what eventually became the Federal Reserve System.'" (This system is America's PRIVATELY owned [I bet you didn't know that] central bank. An excellent book on this is 'The Creature from Jekyl Island.') (pg 46)

"After the vote (on the Federal Reserve Act that set up the Federal Reserve System in 1913), Congressman Charles A. Lindbergh Sr., father of the famous aviator, told Congress: 'This act establishes the most gigantic trust on earth...When the President signs this act the invisible government by the money power, proven to exist by the Money Trust investigation, will be legalized...the new law will create inflation whenever the trusts want inflation...'" (pg 50) "From now on depressions will be scientifically created." (pg 53)

"For those who knew the score, a comment by Paul Warburg (Federal Reserve Board member) had provided the warning to sell. That signal came on March 9, 1929, when the 'Financial Chronical' quoted Warburg as giving this sound advice: 'If orgies of unrestricted speculation are permitted to spread too far... the ultimate collapse is certain...to bring about a general depression involving the whole country.'" "To think that the scientifically engineered Crash of '29 was an accident or the result of stupidity defies all logic." Congressman Louis McFadden, Chairman of the House Banking and Currency Committee, commented: "It [the 1929 collapse/depression] was not accidental. It was a carefully contrived occurrence... The international bankers sought to bring about a condition of despair here so that they might emerge as the rulers of us all." (pg 55) "irrational exuberance has unduly inflated asset values, which then become subject to unexpected and prolonged contractions, as they have in Japan over the past decade." (Alan Greenspan, Federal Reserve chairman, in December, 1996. Japan's stock market has lost 75% of its value over the past decade.)

"If you have inside knowledge as to which way the Federal Reserve policy is going to go, you can make a ton of money." (pg 56)

"The establishment of the Federal Reserve System provided the 'conspiracy' with an instrument whereby the international bankers could run the national debt up to the sky, thereby collecting enormous amounts of interest and also gaining control over the borrower." "Two months prior to the passage of the Federal Reserve Act [in 1913], the conspirators had created the mechanism to collect the funds to pay the interest on the national debt. That mechanism was the progressive income tax, the 2nd plank of Karl Marx' Communist Manifesto." (pg 58) "...in the world of super-politics the real rulers are not always the ones the public sees." (pg 65)

"..Lenin and Trotsky...came to power [in Russia]...because very powerful men in Europe and the United States SENT THEM IN." (Gary Allen, the author, goes into extensive detail - too much to give here - listing names, dates, events, etc. about how this occurred, proving to any studious researcher that Communist Russia, along with Communism itself, was created by the Insiders.) (pg 68) "In one country after another Communism has been imposed on the local population from the top down. The most prominent forces for the imposition of that tyranny came from the United States and Great Britain." If you understand that "Communism is an arm of a bigger conspiracy to control the world by power-mad billionaires...it all becomes perfectly logical." (pg 76) (Consider our current most favored nation trading status for Red China, a PROVEN enemy to the United States.) "...obviously these men have no fear of international Communism. It is only logical to assume that if they financed it and do not fear it, it must be because they control it." (pg 73)

"The financing for Adolph Hitler's rise to power was handled through the Warburg-controlled Mendelsohn Bank of Amsterdam and later by the J. Henry Schroeder Bank with branches in Frankfurt, London and New York." (pg 85) (Gary Allen, the author, gives extensive detail supporting the fact that the Insiders built up Adolph Hitler for their purposes - too many details to list here.)

"Although there are philosophical differences between the grass roots Democrats and the grass roots Republicans, yet as you move up the party ladders these differences become less and less distinguishable until finally the ladders disappear behind the Establishment's managed news curtain and come together at the apex under the control of the Council on Foreign Relations (CFR)." (pg 89) (CFR members have dominated the leadership positions of BOTH major political parties in the Senate, Congress, and Executive branches of government since as far back as FDR's days.)

"It should not be surprising to learn that there is on the international level an organizational equivalent of the Council on Foreign Relations. This group calls itself the Bilderbergers...the strange name of this group is taken from the site of the first meeting in May, 1954 - the Hotel de Bilderberg - in Oostebeek, Holland." "...every single one of those named as past and present members of the Bilderberger Steering Committee is or was a member of the Council on Foreign Relations." (pg 94) "When Prince Bernhard (the creator of the Bilderbergers) arrived at Boston's Logan Airport [for a 1971 meeting], he did admit to reporters that the subject of the conference would be the 'change in the world-role of the United States.' Isn't it nice to have changes in America's role in the world decided upon by Bernhard, Rothschild and Rockefeller?" (pg 97) (Bill Clinton or his designate routinely attends these meetings, all of which greatly restrict the press, as have many other previous Presidents or their designates.)

"But the Rockefellers apparently were not alone in financing the Communist arm of the Insiders' conspiracy. According to Professor Sutton '...there is a report in the State Department files that names Kuhn, Loeb & Co. (the long-established and important financial house in New York) as the financier of the first [Russian] Five Year Plan.'" "Professor Sutton proves conclusively in his three volume history of Soviet technological development that the Soviet Union was almost literally manufactured by the U.S.A." (pg 101)

"...revenue sharing with the states (a Nixon program), [which was] touted as a step in the decentralization of power from the federal government...As soon as the states and local governments get hooked on the federal funds, the controls will be put on just as they were in education and agriculture. Every field the government attempts to take over it first subsidizes." (pg 117) (Consider this fact when viewing Clinton's 100,000 new police officers, and now his 100,000 new teachers, both of which are being paid for by federal grants, i.e. "revenue sharing." How absolutely stupid are we anyway?)

"The Insider's code word for the world superstate is 'new world order,' a phrase often used by Richard Nixon." (pg 121) (This term was reintroduced to the public by President Bush on a number of occasions.)

"...more and more people are beginning to realize that there is a tiny clique of conspirators at the top which controls both the Democrat and Republican Parties. The one thing these conspirators cannot survive is exposure." (pg 129)

"The propaganda war in progress to force registration or confiscation of firearms is the number one priority of all the collectivists - an armed citizenry is the major roadblock to a totalitarian takeover of the United States." (pg 133)

"Remember, the 'Insiders' don't care how much you know about their conspiracy so long as you don't do anything about it." (pg 135)Section 5, "Mind Control in the 21st Century"

(By the way, I just realized that some of the sources' information that are related to some of the other topics are mixed in with them. This is obviously cross-referenced, but not indexed.)SOURCE#5: MCT Booklet: Mind Control in the 21st Century (1996) by Dr. John Coleman. Available From: W.I.R. 2533 North Carson St., Suite J-118, Carson City, NV 89706. Phone: 1-800-942-0821. Cost Abt $20.

"[Russian Professor Vlail Krasnacheev] proved literally hundreds of times that the internal brainwaves (EEG) could be entrained. With various modifications, it was demonstrated that direct transfer of information to the brain could be carried out through radio frequency waves (suitably modulated) at levels that were not lethal. Such 'tailored' electromagnetic signals cannot be stopped, and technically at least, it was possible to direct the mind of the subject to carry out any kind of order, even an order to murder a colleague." (pg 1-2)

"Dr. Sydney Gottlieb, who was one of the CIA's consultants working on the MK Ultra program told the Senate Subcommittee on Health and Scientific Research that the CIA required him to find 'techniques of activation of human organisms by remote control electronic means.' Dr. Gottleib did not spell out the words 'mind control,' but those in the hearing room...were fully aware of what he was talking about." (pg 2)

"In his book, 'Microwave Auditory Effects and Applications,' Dr. James C. Lin... says there is no doubt that 'voices can tell a programmed assassin to kill. Such messages are broadcast directly to the brain via bone induction and cannot be blocked.'" (pg 4)

"Television... Just how much do we know about how it is being used as a mind control weapon against the unsuspecting? Dr. Ernest Hilgard, a well-respected hypnotist said: 'Sitting quietly with no sensory inputs apart from the TV screen is itself capable of getting people to set aside ordinary reality, allowing the substitution of some other reality that the TV set may offer. You can get so imaginatively involved that alternatives temporarily fade away.'" "Our minds become receptacles... and we are then easy subjects for government to program by projecting images it deems desirable, right into our homes." (pg 5-6)

"Others, like Dr. Hal C. Becker, proved in a series of experiments that it is possible to get information to the brain, without the targeted person ever knowing about it. Such 'inner directional conditioning' was perfected by the Tavistock Institute for Human Relations (a 'secret' British Mind Control institute), using a technique known as 'long range penetration.' With these two methods, it is absolutely possible to 'program' an entire nation..." "Using these methods, the population of the United States was inflamed against President Saddam Hussein and the people of Iraq, in an astonishingly short space of time." (pg 6) "The United States is the most television-saturated country in the world, which means that we are also the most easily controlled." (pg 7) "Yet we bristle and wax indignant at the very idea that we are a controlled nation." (pg 8) "We believe what we see on television." (Although we claim we don't, clearly TV advertising wouldn't be a multi-billion dollar business if we didn't.) (pg 7)

"An article with profound implications appeared in the 'Psychology Today' magazine back in 1970. Written by a well-respected psychologist, James V. McConnell, the article shed startling light on what was to come in the field of mind control drugs: 'The day has come when we can combine sensory deprivation with drugs, hypnosis, and astute manipulation of reward and punishment, to gain almost absolute control over an individual's behavior. It should be then possible to achieve a very rapid and highly effective type of positive brainwashing that would allow us to make dramatic changes in a person's behavior and personality... We should reshape society so that we could all be trained from birth to want what society wants us to do. We have the techniques to do it... No one owns his personality... You had no say about what kind of a personality you acquired, and there is no reason to believe you should have the right to refuse to acquire a new personality if your old one is anti-social.' Here is some proof... that mind control has been a serious field of researchers for at least four decades." (pg 10)

"Another name worth mentioning... is Dr. Louis Jolyon West, who did extensive mind control research on behalf of the CIA, among others." (pg 10) (I mention this person since he was one of those "treating" Timothy McVeigh in jail after his arrest for the OKC bombing. McVeigh reportedly told two of his close friends that he had a microchip in his buttocks - the significance of this will become apparent later.)

"In one of the best known works of its kind, 'The Encyclopedia of Modern Murder,' we find that mindless, senseless crimes have only come to the fore since 1964, which parallels the first recorded use of mind control drugs in a much broader field than before. The book gives some impressive statistics which show that motiveless crimes were indeed rare before 1960, in fact, before 1960 there were almost none worth mentioning." "There is a very strong case to be made out for linking so-called mindless violence and random killings to the use of such drugs as PROZAC, Haloperidol and Xanax... From what I have heard from my intelligence source, there is not the slightest doubt that drugs like Prozac are being used in mind control experiments whose object is to create terror... Terror makes control of the population a lot easier... If the government can install a climate of fear in the minds of its citizens, it [can] continue to pass illegal, unconstitutional laws for 'public safety.' The public will clamor for such laws if their personal security is threatened, little realizing that mind control is in play." (pg 11) "PROZAC has been linked to mass-shootings by 'lone nuts' shooting up shopping malls, McDonalds, Post Offices and so on. The Citizens Commission on Human Rights has established some very positive links between these unexplained mass shootings and PROZAC. It is a medical fact that PROZAC can and does cause delirium, convulsion, aggression, suicide, violent hostility, hallucinations among other aberrant behavior." (pg 23)

(I'm sure our global masters could boast, 'So the people don't want to give up their guns?! Hell, by time we're through with them they'll be begging us to take their guns - the ignorant suckers! I highly suspect that our secret government manipulated the minds of the Columbine High School killers, along with many other mass murderers in order to prepare the public to accept more gun control. The Denver area was a perfect place for their 'wet operation' as the NRA was to hold its Annual Meeting of Members in Denver only about two weeks after this massacre.)

"Mark Chapman who murdered John Lennon was known to have been programmed to do the deed, but by whom? There is a body of opinion that CIA mind control experts used Chapman. They may have got their hands on Chapman while he worked for the YMCA. Curiously, Chapman was sent to Beirut by the YMCA for no apparent reason. Beirut is a well-known training center for CIA assassins. After the shooting, detective Arthur O'Connor said Chapman looked dazed, as if he had been programmed. Why was Lennon selected as a target for Chapman? According to one theory, Lennon was showing signs of 'going his own way' and not sticking to the pathway chosen for him by the Tavistock Institute, 'Lennon was getting to the point where he wanted to bring out the 'forbidden' music that would have revealed the real Beatles story, so Lennon had to go and Chapman was programmed to do the job,' I was told." (pg 12)

(The Beatles were promoted and built up by the Committee of 300 for, among other reasons, to rapidly increase the usage of drugs by Americans - drugged out people don't care about freedom. Many of the lyrics to the Beatles songs were written for them by an agent for the Committee of 300. Ask someone brought up in the 1960's what the Beatles did for drug usage.)

"Is it possible in real life to create a 'Manchurian Candidate?' We are not talking about a psychotic killer, but rather about a person who by natural disposition is not violent or has killer tendencies, yet, who can be programmed into becoming an assassin, with a particular victim in mind, one who after the killing has no knowledge of it? Not only is it absolutely possible, but there are known cases of such 'Manchurian Candidates' in intelligence files. The press usually describes such persons as 'deranged' but Juan Kron who tried to kill Pope John Paul II, Mark Chapman and John Hinckley were not 'deranged.' It would be more accurate to describe them as mentally 'rearranged' and it is interesting that neither Ray, Sirhan Sirhan, Chapman or Hinckley ended up in an insane asylum." (pg 12-13)

"Lt. Commander Thomas Narut may have gone a lot further than he was supposed to go when he told a gathering of 120 psychologists about 'units' programmed to kill. 'They are hit men, assassins, made ready to kill in selected countries should the need arise.' Given his 'confession,' there seems little doubt that intelligence agencies have developed sophisticated techniques where programmed killers, on hold, can be unleashed on a command or phrase. In the case of Chapman [who shot Lennon], it was thought to be 'Catcher in the Rye.' We know that at one stage, Chapman was signing his name as 'Caulfield,' the character in the novel. Unfortunately, we will never know for sure just how far these mind control techniques have gone, because the CIA has everything to do with testing psychedelic drugs and the use of hypnosis bottled up, and these are exempted by law from the Freedom of Information Act. Was Sirhan programmed in this way? When questioned by the public defender about the shooting, Sirhan Sirhan responded, 'I don't remember much about the shooting sir, did I do it? Well, yes, I am told I did it." (pg 13)

"Finally, some 12 years later, when Sirhan Sirhan was [finally] allowed to take the PSE test (these tests are far more sophisticated and accurate than the polygraph), Dr. John W. Heisse of the International Society of Stress Analysts concluded that Sirhan Sirhan was telling the truth: 'Everything in the PSE charts tells me that Sirhan Sirhan wasn't aware of what he was doing. He was in a hypnotic trance when he pulled the trigger and killed Senator Kennedy... Everything in the PSE charts tells me that someone else was involved in the assassination - and that Sirhan Sirhan was programmed through hypnosis to kill Kennedy. What we have here is a real live Manchurian Candidate.'" (pg 13-14)

"Apparently DARPA (Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency) followed Tavistock methodically: 'If you can heal someone by psychology, you can, conversely, make them sick by reversing the method.' Apparently scientists at DARPA perfected a complex method whereby they can now not only read brainwave patterns, but actually INSERT 'thoughts' faster than the human brain can process them! In the 1970's the Russians developed a system of remote surveillance that could 'read' a subject's mind, and which could actually tell the monitoring controller every single thought in the brain of the subject. With the advent of satellites, the Russians say they can 'read minds' from thousands of miles away." (pg 18) "Does all this sound a bit too much?... Before making any hasty judgement, ponder the words of Zbignew Brzezinski (Carter's National Security Advisor) in his [book] 'Technotronic Era.': 'In the technotronic society the trend would seem to be toward the aggregation of the individual support of uncoordinated citizens, easily within the reach of the magnetic and attractive personalities effectively exploiting the latest communication techniques to manipulate the emotions and control reason.'" (pg 18)

"...consider the FACT, not supposition, but FACT, that the brainwave monitors at Fort Meade can actually transmit images conversely to the visual cortex of the brain by-passing the optic nerves and the image of choice can be transmitted into the subject's brain, especially during Rapid Eye Movement (REM) sleep. Thus, the 'subject' wakes up and believes most firmly that 'abduction by aliens' (or anything else they want you to believe) actually took place." (appendix, pg 3)

"Were the 'lone nut' gunmen who went on the rampage in Stockton and Montreal, and in innumerable other places between, really acting on their own, or were they victims of hypnotic suggestions, 'consider it to be undertaken out of their own free will.' The spate of mass shootings is just too timely for the anti-gun lobby of the Fabian Socialists, to pat, too convenient, to be genuine, extremist action 'undertaken of their own free will.' Rather, it is glaringly obvious that something is rotten... when we see how easy these violent crimes have made it for Comrade Charles Schumer to push gun control measures through the Congress." (pg 20-21) "It is all too convenient that whenever legislation to protect 2nd Amendment rights comes up in the Congress, a major shooting incident occurs, such as the 101 California shooting in San Francisco that provided Senator Feinstein with a perfect backdrop for introducing a ban on 'assault weapons.'" (appendix, pg 6)

"Mind control has become a fearsome weapon of tyranny, and given the astonishing progress made with satellites that can beam signals in a grid across the entire planet, mind control of the entire population of the planet is now a distinct possibility, and may even be a probability." (pg 21)

There ya go!



posted on Apr, 26 2004 @ 08:25 PM
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r u going to post the section that talks about secret weapons or secret technology.



posted on Apr, 26 2004 @ 08:31 PM
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well that looks rather...odd. why not post the entire disk?



posted on Apr, 26 2004 @ 08:40 PM
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Originally posted by DeltaChaos

Contents:

SOURCE LISTING: ABBV. TOPICS:
1.Committee of 300 (300) Big Picture
2.None Dare Call it Conspiracy (DARE) Big Picture
3.Strategic Relocation/J.Skousen (STRAT) DCM, RCB
4.Vampire Killer 2000 (VAMP) NBQ
5.Mind Control in the 21st Century (MIND) MCT
6.Trance Formation of America (TRANCE) MCT, SRS
7.Thanks for the Memories (THANKS) MCT, SRS
8.Paperclip Dolls (DOLLS) MCT, SRS
9.Secret Weapons (SECRET) MCT, STC, SRS
10.The Franklin Cover-Up (FRANKLIN) MCT, SRS
11.Gundersons Update on Franklin (GUND) MCT
12.Why Johnny Can't Come Home (JOHNNY) MCT, SRS
13.Revelations of a Mother Goddess (GODDESS) MCT, SRS
14.Ritualistic Child Abuse Memo (RITUAL) MCT, SRS
15.Brainwashing Pamphlet (BRAIN) MCT
16.Communist Exploitation of Religion (EXPLOIT) Misc.
17.Educating for the N.W.O. (EDUCATE) EDT
18.Deliberate Dumbing Down of America (DUMBING) EDT
19.Full Disclosure (DISCLOSE) APC
20.Defrauding America (DEFRAUD) DGW
21.Compromised:Clinton Bush&CIA (COMP) DGW
22.McAlvany Intelligence Advisor (MCALVANY) STK,RCB
23.Saviors of the Earth (SAVIORS) EVM
24.The Energy Non-Crisis (ENERGY) EVM, STK, Other
25.Freedom's End;Conspiracy in OKC (FREEDOM) OKC Bombing
26.Globalism: The Program (GLOBAL) Big Picture
27.Votescam:The Stealing of America (VOTE) VTG, MCT, CPR
28.Aid & Abet Newsletter (ABET) CPR, MCT
29.New American Magazine (NEWAM) Misc.
30.Great&Abom. Church of the Devil (GREAT) Gov't Principles
31.An Enemy Hath Done This (ENEMY) Gov't Principles
32.The Book of Revelation Today (REV) Scripture Analysis
33.Visions, Prophecies, And Rev's. (VISIONS) FPS, Big Picture
34.Gayle Smith's Visions/Insights (GAYLE) FPS, Big Picture
35.Joseph Smith's words in 1998 (JOSEPH) Coming to God
36.Handbook of the New Paradigm (NEWP) FPS, Big Picture
37.Misc Quotes, Various Sources (MISC) GCT, Misc.

SPECIAL SEARCH CODES BY TOPIC:
(Use your word processor's 'Find' function to search these codes.)
NBQ=Notable Quotes
PLS=Public Opinion Polls
DGW=Drug War/CIA & Drugs
STK=Economy/Stock Market
FRV=Federal Reserve
GCT=Gun Control
CPR=Controlled Press
DCM=Death of Communism
RCB=Russia/China Arms Buildup
USM=US Military Readiness
MCT=Mind Control
SRS=Satanism/Satanic Rituals
VTG=Voting&Elections
EDT=Education
STC=Secret Technology
APC=AIDS/Population Control
EVM=Environmental Movement
IMG=Illegal Immigration
FTD=Foreign Trade
FPS=Future Prophecies

The person sites his sources, but remains anonymous.

DeltaChaos


1. Committee of 300
2. None Dare Call it Conspiracy
3. Strategic Relocation
4. (Operation)Vampire Killer 2000
5. Couldn't find a book titled that.
6. Trance Formation of America

Ok..... I could go on...but I'm tired of referencing on the net.
Point is. These topics/books are readily available at Amazon.com. Maybe someone owns (funny how the word own is made up of 3 familiar letters...) stock in Amazon and wants to drive up the sales of obscure conspiracy books (bad ones by the looks of the prices on some of them). Anyway....that's just my .02 (EDIT: my math skills suck)
Have a good night everyone.

[Edited on 4-26-2004 by darklanser]



posted on Apr, 26 2004 @ 08:47 PM
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This could also be some part of online game people are playing like chase the wish or something like that.

If you don't know what chasing the wish is just google it. There was also a game online like maybe two years about a "hacker" who had dissapeared.

Very interactive and fun game, didn't play but lurked in the boards observing the players.

I am not implying that DC is playing the game if that is what the disk is about. Part of the game could be people disseminating information important to the particular game scenario.

Just a guess.

SPiderj

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posted on Apr, 26 2004 @ 09:04 PM
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Originally posted by Shoktek
well that looks rather...odd. why not post the entire disk?
It's way too big. It's a .txt that's 1.1MB. I figure it's probably around 200 pages. SO would have my nuts for a bolo...

DC



posted on Apr, 26 2004 @ 09:06 PM
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Originally posted by Spiderj
Part of the game could be people disseminating information important to the particular game scenario.


You could very well be right, we could all just be playing into someones hands.



posted on Apr, 26 2004 @ 09:14 PM
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Originally posted by heelstone
Post anything and everything about Aliens/UFOs that it may contain plus the energy non-crisis section.
There doesn't seem to be anything in the document pertaining to aliens or UFOs, but here's the energy non crisis thing...

Source 24: The Energy Non-CrisisSOURCE#24: Book: The Energy Non-Crisis (1980), by Lindsey Williams. Available From: The Survival Center, PO Box 234, McKenna, WA 98558. Phone: 1-360-458-6778. Cost: $33.50 with four other books and a video. (as of 5/2001)
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"Lindsey Williams, who has been an ordained Baptist minister for 28 years, went to Alaska in 1971 as a missionary. The Transalaska oil pipeline began its construction phase in 1974, and because of Mr. Williams' love for his country and concern for the spiritual welfare of the 'pipeliners,' he volunteered to serve as Chaplain on the pipeline... Because of the executive status accorded to him as Chaplain, he was given access to the information that is documented in this book." (pg front inset)

"I became convinced of the fact that there is no energy crisis when a Senator visited me on the Pipeline... He came to the Pipeline at my invitation, to speak in the work camps for which I was responsible as Chaplain, on the northern sector of the Trans-Alaska Oil Pipeline... The Senator was shown everything he wanted to see, and he was told everything he wanted to know... The Senator said to me, 'Lindsey, I can hardly believe what I have seen and heard today.'... 'Lindsey, I was in the Senate of the State of Colorado when the Federal briefers came to inform us as to why there is an energy crisis. Lindsey, what I have heard and seen today, compared with what I was told in the Senate of the State of Colorado, makes me realize that almost everything I was told by those Federal briefers was a downright lie!'" (pg 14-16)

"The Senator's first question was, 'Mr. X [a high-level oil exec], how much crude oil is there under the North Slope of Alaska... Mr. X answered... 'from the seismographic work and the drillings we have already done, I am convinced that there is as much oil under the North Slope of Alaska as there is in all of Saudi Arabia.' The Senator's next question was perhaps an obvious one. 'Why isn't this oil being produced, if there is an oil crisis?'... Mr. X then made the startling observations that the Federal government and the State government of Alaska had allowed ONLY ONE pool of oil on the North Slope of Alaska to be developed." (pg 16-17)

"The Senator asked one last question, 'Mr. X, if what you say is true, then why don't you as oil companies tell the American people the truth and warn them?' 'Senator,' Mr. X replied, 'we don't dare tell the American people the truth because there are so many laws already passed and regulations on the books that if the government decided to impose them all on us and enforce them, they could put us into bankruptcy within six months." (pg 18)

"I always had access to the technical data in the offices... after my eyes had been opened to the fact of a non-energy crisis, the cooperation was even greater than it had been before. Many officials are likewise concerned at what the government was and is doing to oil companies, and to the supply of oil to the people of America." (pg 23)

"In going to the Pipeline, I had no intentions of being (or becoming) involved in political issues. Indeed, my whole motivation was to help the men spiritually... It was only after my eyes were opened at the time of the discussions with the Senator and Mr. X that I was led into a totally different understanding of a troublesome situation - which I realized must be faced and presented to the American people. Hence this book." "I worked on the Pipeline for two and one-half years. I was not paid by either the oil company or any government agency for all of that time, and I believe that I am entitled to claim in sincerity that I had no bias..." (pg 24-25) "The top executives would always overlap each other for one day [when rotating up to work on the pipeline], so that there was constant briefing and debriefing... It was at these briefings that I constantly gained a great deal of information." (pg 60)

"I first became aware of the supposed 'energy crisis' in 1972 when I was riding on roundup in Wheatland, Wyoming, on a 32,000-acre ranch... I said to the man with me, 'Sir, what is that big pipeline running across your property?'... 'Well, Brother Lindsey, that's one of the major cross-country pipelines carrying crude oil from the West to the East.'... That was in 1972... In 1974, I was again in Wyoming and went to that same ranch... Imagine my surprise... to find that... The pipeline didn't seem to be running... [I was told] 'well, mister, if you really want to know the truth, the truth is the Federal government has ordered us to close this pipeline down.'... 'Sir, we're closing it down because we've been ordered to.'... [This was during a time when there was a so-called 'energy crisis' on the East Coast. Some of you may remember this.] When I arrived back in Alaska at Prudhoe Bay in 1974, I said, 'Mr. X, let me relate to you what I saw in Wheatland, Wyoming, just a few weeks ago... why was that cross-country pipeline through Wyoming closed down? You must know something about it... Mr. X said to me, 'Chaplain, I will try to be honest with you today, and I hope it doesn't get any of us in trouble... We, as oil companies, were ordered by the Federal government in 1973 to close down certain cross-country pipelines and to reduce the output of our refineries in certain strategic points of America for the purpose of creating an energy crisis...' I was astonished at what I was being told." (pg 26-31)

"Mr. X showed me the wells and let me know details about the size of the oil pool and the amount of oil that was there. He made the statement that the Prudhoe Bay oil field is one of the richest oil fields on the face of the earth. He said that it could flow for over 20 years with natural artesian pressure, without even a pump being placed on it... He also said that there was enough natural gas, as distinct from oil, to supply the entire United States of America for over 200 years [if the government let them produce it]." (pg 26-32)

"Mr. X... [stated,] 'Senator, there is no energy crisis! There is an artificially produced energy crisis, and it is for the purpose of controlling the American people. You see, if the government can control energy, they can control industry, they can control an individual, and they can control business... by [the] Federal government imposing regulations, rules, and stipulations, they are going to force us as oil companies to cut back on production, and not to [fully] produce the [Prudhoe Bay] field. Through that they will produce an energy crisis. Over a period of years the intention is that we will fall so far behind in production that we will not have the crude oil here in America, and will be totally dependent on foreign nations for our energy. When those foreign nations cut off our oil, we as Americans will be helpless. The intention is to create this crisis over a period of time.'" (pg 38-39) "Of one thing I am convinced. Somewhere, some place, there definitely appears to be a conspiracy." (pg 61)

"The Senator asked, 'Mr. X, if you developed the entire North Slope of Alaska as private enterprise what would happen?' Mr. X looked at the Senator and answered simply, 'If we as oil companies were allowed to develop the entire North Slope oil field, that is the entire area north of the Brooks Range in Alaska, producing the oil that we ALREADY KNOW is there (caps added for emphasis), and if we were allowed to tap the numerous pools of oil that could be tapped (we are tapping only one right now), in five years the United States of America could be totally energy free, and totally independent from the rest of the world as far as energy is concerned. What is more, sir, if we were allowed to develop this entire field as private enterprise, within five years the United States of America could balance payments with every nation on the face of the earth, and again be the great nation which America really should be. We could do that if only private enterprise was allowed to operate freely, without government intervention.'" (pg 39)

"'Sir, will you please tell me what you think the American government is out to do?' It was at that point that Mr. X revealed his opinion that the government was out to declare AT&T a monopoly [which the government has since done], and secondly, to nationalize the oil companies." (pg 40) "Canada has already nationalized its oil companies. That is an actual fact of history, and this was often referred to by executives of the oil companies working for the Pipeline. Often I heard it related that the same patterns that were used by Canada for the nationalization of their oil companies, appeared to be the pattern that the United States government was following in its dealings with oil companies today." (pg 63) (Fortunately, the government has still not been successful in nationalizing [or socializing] the oil companies in this country. They tried to nationalize/socialize health care via Hillary Clinton, but fortunately that failed as well.)

"Not one penny of government money was invested in the Pipeline." (pg 63) "It is... true to say that the government policy was to put restrictions in the way of the oil companies at every conceivable and every inconceivable point. They seemed determined to give problems everywhere they could." (pg 76) "There were Federal government men, as well as State men, and sometimes you would find these men actually walking out in front of equipment so that they could move away little ground squirrels to make sure that no animal was affected in any way by the building of the [pipeline]." (pg 79-80) "'...[One time] we find there are those two falcons nesting up there. One of the (----) ecologists found them, and he told us we'd have to stop the whole job.' 'The whole job? - you're not serious!' I asked. 'Never more serious in my life... That guy had the authority to tell us we couldn't go on with our construction, even though we'd been given the permits to build it this way, and we were deeply involved with hundreds of men at work... This creep told me, 'You can't go on with this construction until the falcons have finished nesting.' 'Why can't you move the (----) falcon's nest further across the mountain?' Charlie asked him... 'My job is to protect the falcons. I'll do my job, you do yours.'" (pg 81-82) "'Well, I've actually calculated it. In order to go around that one nest, it's going to cost the oil companies an additional $2 million dollars.'" (pg 83) (Deliberate absurdities such as this were the norm, not the exception.)

"There were loudly voiced protests that these [the numerous absurd government regulations] were deliberate ways to make the oil companies spend large sums of money unnecessarily... The money that was wasted [because of deliberate government stupidities] is almost incredible." (pg 93) "[Even the engineers] believed there were deliberate efforts to slow down the project and to escalate its cost." (pg 96) "On one occasion a vehicle with sightseers on board ran off the road to let a truck go by. No damage was done - there was nothing off the road, just the tundra... Nevertheless, there was a fine of $10,000 levied [against ARCO] because that vehicle ran off the road... Another case was where a pickup truck drove into the river to turn around. A security guard had locked the gate, and so this was the way that the driver solved his own problem. Again the ARCO company got fined $10,000... They hurt nothing driving their vehicle into the river..." (pg 100-101) "At one time there were 22 government monitors working on that one section of road... There was no doubt that by the strict enforcement of often ridiculous and excessive regulations, the attempt was being made to bankrupt all the oil companies [so they could be nationalized]." (pg 102)

"In 1971... the projected cost was $600,000,000... in 1974, the cost estimate was... $2 billion dollars... Now we reach 1976, and the oil company officials were saying that, because of cost overruns, the total cost of the oil pipeline would probably exceed $12 billion dollars." (pg 109-111) "There was an underlying force that was attempting to control both the oil companies and the flow of oil. From 1976 on, frustration began to be intensified. Permits were withdrawn, even though they had been issued for the entire time of the construction of the Trans-Alaska Oil Pipeline, and had been promised as such by the Federal government. Now I was watching as one after another they were withdrawn in an attempt to frustrate the entire project. Regulations were being intensified... It indeed seemed that the Federal government did not want the oil to flow." (pg 111-112)

"It was clear that a deliberate attempt was being made to stop the flow of that oil, to prevent the whole project from being brought to a successful conclusion... The company that was X-raying the big pipe was accused of duplicating film. The charges were simply not substantiated. To the best of my knowledge, there was not one single leak after the oil went through... It became clearer that all of this was somehow planned. For two to three months all we heard was, 'Faulty welding!' [by the major media - some of you reading this may remember this.] The word went out all across America that the pipeline had to be stopped - and even dug up. America was told that the oil would leak out onto the ground and would destroy the 'precious' tundra. The news media proclaimed that this would be the biggest oil spill ever known on the face of the earth, and it must be stopped. Three years later you have heard of no oil spills..." (pg122) (This attempt to further delay the pipeline is yet another demonstration of the POWER of the real world leaders to create perceptions in masses of people in a very short period of time. The whole 'faulty weld' deal was a big LIE.)

"[One gentleman I shared a room with at one of the work camps] explained that he was appointed by Alyeska and the Federal government to examine the so-called 'faulty welds.' The claims that the welds in the big pipe were faulty had been spread all over the country by the news media - in the newspapers, on radio, and on television. It was put out for the whole world to know that the welds were bad... All the X-rays of the welds prior to the pipe being laid in the ground were undertaken by a firm that was subcontracted by Alyeska... The claim was that the company that was supposed to have X-rayed these welds had duplicated their film [to save money - a plausible rumor for the feds to spread]... the company had films to prove that the X-rays had been carried out... He said, 'Chaplain, my purpose in being here is to examine those welds.' He continued, 'Sir, all of this is classified.'... '...it's of national importance.'... In the course of our lengthy conversation it became very clear that this gentleman believed that the whole investigation was unwarranted, that there was no truth to the claim that there were faulty welds, and that it was costing the oil companies millions of dollars for this investigation." "Some Federal inspector, hidden in anonymity, had claimed that the welds were faulty, but here was the expert... insisting that the Federal inspector's claims were false." "It again appeared that somewhere underlying the total picture was an attempt by the government to postpone the flow of oil. I was left with the clear impression that government intervention was quite deliberate, in an attempt to lead the oil companies to financial chaos, even to their bankruptcy, and ultimately to the nationalization of the oil industry." "That became even clearer as those rich oil men from Saudi Arabia, as well as the bankers from the lower 48 states, began coming to Prudhoe Bay in large numbers." (pg 126-132)

"It was about this time I noticed some unusual visitors... What are the bankers from New York doing here?... with instructions to be allowed to see everything... The money men of the world were coming from everywhere. Something intentional was going on. Something that without a doubt was planned, and now it was adding up more and more." (pg 140-141)

"'By the way, Mr. X, why is it that all these [money] men are up here at Prudhoe Bay all of a sudden?... we've had a flood of the biggest men in the world as far as financing is concerned.' Mr. X got up from his desk and... closed his office door, then with a very sad look on his face, he said, 'Chaplain, Altantic Richfield has just completed the transaction of borrowing the worth of the company.' I exclaimed, 'That's bankruptcy!' He did not like the word 'bankruptcy' but he remarked in his own way that was just about the size of what was happening. I had commented that it was financial suicide, and he acknowledged that was what was taking place... Mr. X remarked, 'Chaplain, the only reason we borrowed the worth of the company was that we might complete the Trans-Alaska Oil Pipeline - and in so doing, remain solvent by the sale of the oil.' Then so many things came together in my mind. Cost overruns had caused the costs to be increased from an estimated $600,000,000 in 1971 to the actual cost of the Pipeline being $12,000,000,000. No company could stand such cost increases in just a few short years - and that applies to even the wealthy oil barons. So now Atlantic Richfield was in debt for the amount of their total corporate worth. At this point even more things began to add up. Not only were there extreme cost overruns, but there were the false claims of faulty welding, withdrawals of permits, orders to dig up pipes... 'Stop the flow of oil' seemed to be the constant intent... Almost daily some official on the Pipeline [during this time] would come to me and say, 'Chaplain, I'm so frustrated I hardly know where to turn, because we've been applying for that permit for weeks. They know the job has to be stopped until that permit is given. All this time my men are sitting there, doing nothing while we're waiting on the State to make surveys, and to decide a simple question of a minor permit that prior to this we had no problem whatsoever getting.'" (pg 144-148)

"Mr. X said to me very sincerely, 'Chaplain... The fact is that if we don't flow that oil in time, we will go into bankruptcy.' For the first time, I had heard it with my own ears. That was it - that was really what they were after. I finally had the last piece of the puzzle, and at last the whole picture fitted together... The Federal government was aiming for total control." (pg 149) "Mr. X, is the Federal government attempting to delay the flow of oil on the Alaska pipeline?' He emphatically said, 'Yes!' He was angry and did not say it in a way that I would put in this book... "I'm going to go a step further. Chaplain, if they delay the flow of oil for a period of six months, the oil companies of America [which formed a partnership to jointly build the pipeline - the most costly project ever undertaken by private enterprise in the history of the world] will be thrown into bankruptcy.'" (pg 150)

"I watched, and I saw something that I could hardly believe, because I had never seen this before... there was suddenly a dramatic change in the attitude of oil company officials. They had 'come out fighting.' By now there were two to three months until oil flow... I had seen both the Federal and the State governments withdraw different permits, and literally back the oil companies into a corner where they had to fight... Time was of the essence, for cost overruns had gone to such a state that interest alone would eat them up. So there was no choice - that oil had to flow, and it had to flow on time! The only way that the oil companies could survive was to flow that oil on the given date." (pg 152-153)

"How did they do it [flow the oil on time]? I'll tell you how they did it - the oil companies themselves can never tell you the story, so I will. By now the job had grown to such an enormous size that there weren't enough State and Federal inspectors to keep up with every aspect of the job. I watched, in that last six months of the Pipeline project, as the oil companies literally bull-dogged - if I might coin that expression - they literally went forward, disregarding the [stupid] stringent restrictions that had been placed on them by the Federal and State governments. When they were caught, they would pay the fines, and the fines for petty offenses ran into many thousands of dollars - but most of the time they were not caught... the oil companies moved forward disregarding the outlandish rules that had been imposed on them by the Federal government. Those impositions were contrary to the rules that had been agreed to when they first contracted for this project for the Trans-Alaska Pipeline. They literally rushed madly forward in an attempt to survive and to flow that oil on time, regardless of what it took to do it. (pg 153-154)

"[The oil companies] knew that the practice of withdrawing permits and the issuing of new permits was not correct, either morally or legally. They literally overran the restrictions imposed by the government, and there was nothing the government officials could do about it, because they simply could not keep up with the fast pace. That oil was going to flow on time. I had never seen this attitude before. Such an attitude had not been there during the first two years and three months of the construction of the oil pipeline, because during that time all regulations were very stringently followed. All permits were carefully obeyed, but now it was quite to the contrary... I personally say at this point, 'Congratulations to the oil companies.' They flowed the oil on time despite a direct attempt by the Federal and State governments to stop that flow from going. It was an intentional plan to bankrupt the oil companies of America so that the oil industry could be nationalized - but they did not succeed." (pg 154-155) (If the American people would only wake up to what is really going on like the oil companies did, this conspiracy for global slavery would be over in a hurry.)

"It also seems that ultimately one of the ideas was to so discredit the oil companies in the minds of the public that they would be all too ready to allow the whole of the oil industry to be nationalized. The oil companies were to be blamed for the price of gas going up [just like they are today, even when in reality the government is by far the biggest reason gas prices are increasing] - they were to be the scapegoats, made to appear to be raking in exorbitant profits..." (pg 155-156)

"...one morning [when visiting relatives in Seattle during the Pipeline construction and listening to the radio]... I heard an editorial... it was by the Sierra Club. By this time I had been to Prudhoe Bay for one winter and two summers... I had seen the caribou migration, I had watched the geese and the ducks come to the North Slope by the thousands. I had seen the beauty of the tundra in the summertime... I had been very interested in all the ecology measures the oil companies were taking to protect the North Slope while they were building the Pipeline. I had, of course, noticed that they were taking extreme measures, and spending millions to protect the ecology and to safeguard the animals. I listened to that Sierra Club editorial for about three minutes, and I heard them attempting to tell how the oil companies were destroying the ecology of the North Slope of Alaska. They made accusation after accusation after accusation. I listened intently... I could not find a single accusation in that Sierra Club editorial that was true - not one... It made me realize that the American people were being brainwashed. It became apparent that the authorities had no intention of telling the facts about Alaska and the Pipeline." (pg 85-87)

"[To get around to see the men working on the pipeline] almost every day I would ride over to ARCO... Usually the security guard would tell me of half a dozen officers, and I would have a wide choice of riding companions. One day I would ride with the equipment man, another day with Mr. X, and another day I might ride with an inspector... that day the security officer named several men, and I immediately recognized one that I thought would be interesting to ride with... He looked up as I came in... 'Ah,' he said, 'You came along at just the right time. How would you like to watch something exciting?'... 'Chaplain, come on, let's ride out to the Arctic Ocean, and I'll show you what we're going to get into today.'... 'you'll see the drill rig on a little bitty island way out there in the Arctic Ocean.' ... 'Oh,' I said, 'Yes, Gull Island... they are drilling for oil on Gull Island.' He said, 'Yes, Chaplain, they are. Not only that, but today we are going to have the first burn from the rig - they've completed the drilling.' A 'burn' - in layman's terms - is a method of proof used when an oil field or an oil well is brought in. I was to watch that day what is probably one of the most phenomenal bits of intelligence information that has ever been discovered since the original oil discovery at Prudhoe Bay." "...the oil companies had been allowed to produce from only a 100-square-mile area of the North Slope of Alaska, yet there are many 100-square-mile areas of land north of the Brooks Mountains, the northern-most mountain range of the United States. [100 square miles is a TINY area - only 10 miles square. So when you compare this to the total area that makes up the North Slope of Alaska you can see that the government only allowed drilling on just a tiny portion of the available land.]... So there we were, sitting out in the Arctic Ocean, watching a speck on the horizon . . . a speck called Gull Island. The ARCO official proceeded to explain to me that Gull Island is on the very, very edge of that 100 square miles from which they were allowed to produce... He then... elaborated about the rich oil fields at Prudhoe Bay and stated that they have proven there are many other pools of oil on the North Slope of Alaska... Then he told me something else I already knew [remember, this was about 1974]. He said, 'Chaplain, there is no energy crisis. There has never been an energy crisis. There will NEVER BE an energy crisis; we have as much oil here as in all of Saudi Arabia. If only the oil companies of America were allowed to produce it, we would have no crisis. Oh, we've been told there's a crisis, but there isn't one.'" (pg 160-167)

"[The ARCO official] explained that on Gull Island they were drilling straight down because if they drilled at an angle they would be out of bounds of that small area from which the government had allowed them to produce. He then said, 'What we find today will prove what is on the outerskirts of this oil field.' THEN IT HAPPENED! [caps used in place of bolding in original] I remember he stopped his conversation very abruptly... 'Look, Chaplain! There it is!'... there is was; a great cloud of black smoke was going up. It was almost as though a great black bomb had exploded... This surely was an exciting find..." "This must be a big one!' he exclaimed... 'Chaplain, I think we have just proven something phenomenal - something we have been looking for for a long time. Come on, quick! Let's go back to base and look at the technical data." (pg 168-171)

"...we rode quickly back to the base and walked into the office. He did not hesitate for one moment to show me what it was that had been proven. He took out the statistics and showed me the papers, and let me see the proof of the find. He went from place to place that day with excitement in his voice as he told a few officials to come and look... 'Chaplain, we have just discovered and proven another pool of oil as big and maybe even bigger than the Prudhoe Bay Field. This is phenomenal beyond words.' He again said, 'There is no energy crisis. Now we can build a second pipeline - now we can produce not only 2 million barrels of oil every 24 hours, but we can produce 4 million barrels of oil every 24 hours.'... Then suddenly the excitement was wiped off his face as he looked back at me and said, 'I hope the Federal government doesn't pose any difficulty over this because of the fact that it's located on the very edge of the designated area from which we can produce.' Then he looked back again and said, 'Chaplain, if this is allowed to be produced, we can build another pipeline, and in another year's time we can flood America with oil - Alaskan oil, our own oil, and we won't have to worry about the Arabs. We won't be dependent on any nation on earth. Chaplain, if there are two pools of oil here this big, there are many, many dozens of pools of oil all over this North Slope of Alaska.' He went on to say, 'Chaplain, America has just become energy independent.' I must repeat that . . . this high official of ARCO said, 'American has just become energy independent.'" (pg 171-173)

"The energy crisis had just come to a screeching halt - this ought to hit the front page in every newspaper across America!... I think that night I hardly slept, for I had just witnessed one of the most spectacular events since the original find at Prudhoe Bay... That morning I finished breakfast quickly... I walked into the base camp, and there was nothing exceptional going on... I said, 'Sir, where is Mr. So and So [from the prior day]?'... [The guard] called him on the radio and said, 'Chaplain Williams is here to see you.' The man called back with what seemed to be an air of fear in his voice, and he said, 'Chaplain Williams? Yes, please tell him to stay right there and not leave. I need to see him.'... I went to his office and sat down... the oil company official soon walked into his office... He looked at me with a frown on his face and said, 'Chaplain, what you saw yesterday, don't you ever as long as you live, let anything out that would tell anyone the data that you saw on those technical sheets.' I said, 'But sir, that's going to end the energy crisis in America!' He said, 'No Chaplain, it's not. Quite to the contrary.' As he sat down behind his desk, I noticed that he was very worried, and then he continued, 'Chaplain, you weren't supposed to see what I showed you yesterday. I'm sorry I let you go with me out there to watch that burn. I'm even more perturbed that I let you look at the technical data, because, Chaplain, you and I might both be in trouble if you ever tell the story of Gull Island.' I should stop at this point and state that he did not tell me not to tell the story of Gull Island, but he merely said, 'We both may be in trouble if you ever tell the story of Gull Island.'... I listened as that official told me that the government had ordered the oil company to seal the documents, withdraw the rig, cap the well, and not release the information about the Gull Island find... This company official said to me, 'Chaplain, that great pool of oil is probably as big as the Prudhoe oil field, it has been proven, drilled into, and tested - we know what is there and we know the amount that is there, but government has ordered us not to produce that well, or reveal any information as to what is at Gull Island.'" (pg 173-179)

"I could hardly believe what I heard that day [again, remember that this was about 1974, about the same time as the Arab oil embargo]... As I walked out of that office I realized that I was only one of about six men alive who would even know the truth about Gull Island, or would ever even see the technical data. I was astonished that day because of this restriction on releasing data about the production from beneath a small island out in the Arctic Ocean. This could end the oil crisis, but I had come to the conclusion in my mind, with no doubt whatsoever, that the Federal government would never want that oil produced. It was not the oil companies that ordered the rig removed and the well capped. It was not the oil companies that said, 'We cannot go beyond our 100-mile boundary.' It was not the oil companies that said, 'We will not tell the American people the truth.' Rather, it was your Federal and State government..." (pg179-180)

"Gull Island just proved what the oil companies have believed for some time. It authenticated the seismographic findings. Seismographic testing has indicated that there is as much crude oil on the North Slope of Alaska as in Saudi Arabia. Since the Gull Island find proved to be seismographically correct, then the other testings are correct also. There are many hundreds of square miles of oil under the North Slope of Alaska... To clarify... let me first re-emphasize that the government permitted the oil companies to drill and prove MANY sites (subsequently making them cap the wells and keep secret the proof of the finds), but they do not allow them to PRODUCE from the wells." [I would suspect that those who truly run the world like to know where the big oil reserves are, just in case it serves there purposes in the future.] (pg 181-182)

"The reason Mr. X made the statement that there is as much crude oil on the North Slope of Alaska as in all of Saudi Arabia is because the oil companies have drilled all over the North Slope and have proven there is that much oil there, but still they are only allowed to produce from the small area." (pg 184)

"Possibly you have heard it stated that the Alaskan crude oil has such a high sulphur content that it cannot be refined by most oil refineries in the U.S.. We are being told that this is the reason why the Alaskan oil is not helping solve America's energy crisis. This is also the excuse that is being used for shipping Alaskan crude oil to other countries... [Those who run the world truly are fantastic liers.] Well, here is a statistic that should silence those false claims... Sulphur content - 0.9%... The sulphur content of the Prudhoe Bay Alaskan oil is low in comparison to oil from [many] other sources... The Alaskan Prudhoe Bay oil can be refined by any major refinery in America without damage to the ecology." (pg 185) "I believe this nonsense we are hearing is part of [an organized] campaign: 'The sulphur content is all wrong; we cannot refine it down here.' This propaganda about the high sulphur was coming from the media right across the lower 48 states, and it was even coming from some oil companies [don't forget who controls the big oil companies]..." (pg 191)

"...I was interested to see the reactions of Mr. X [to this claim that Alaskan crude cannot be easily refined because it has too high a sulphur content]. He literally laughed. I'll never forget the way his face lit up and he burst into laughter. 'Is that really what the man told you?' [he asked]... Mr. X reminded me [that]... it was he who originally designed and then had arranged for the building of the cracking plant [i.e. refinery] at Prudhoe Bay... He reminded me that he was able to speak with authority and certainty on the matter of sulphur content... he said to me, '... Prudhoe Bay crude oil contains only 0.9% sulphur, which is quite low.'" (pg 193) "I had seen a number of newspaper reports, and heard spoken commentary on the media to the effect that Alaskan oil had too much sulphur to crack in U.S. refineries... I might add that other oil company officials have since confirmed the authoritative statements made to me that day by Mr. X." (pg 194)

"[Because of this so-called refinery issue, those at the top were now] suggesting that they barter the oil, let some other country take the Alaska oil, and then more of other countries' oil would come into America. It was very plain that this was yet another part of the scheme to make this nation dependent upon other nations for its supply of oil." (pg 195)

"...one day Mr. X and I crossed paths again... I asked him... could it possibly be that the campaign now is to make the oil companies look like fools? Are they being made to show exorbitant price increases and likewise being made to APPEAR to show exorbitant profits?... He answered me, 'Yes, Chaplain, there does appear to be a move on today to so disgrace the oil companies in the minds of the American people that some day the people themselves will ASK the government to nationalize the oil companies." (pg 197)

"Another oil company official spoke to me one day where I had been speaking in another [meeting]... As he shook my hand he said... 'I sure am glad to see someone willing to tell it like it is.' I said... 'why can't you tell it as it is?' He said, 'Chaplain, we tried, but it doesn't work. Every time, someone stops us. We cannot tell it as it is because they think we are biased. After all, we're paid by the oil companies.'" (pg 201-202)

"After the pipeline construction phase was over, Mr. X and I happened to be talking one day... and I asked him what they were going to do with the natural gas that came from the Prudhoe Bay oil field... 'Well,' he said, 'Chaplain, we've been promised that we could produce that natural gas. We've been promised that the Federal government would allow us to build a natural gas pipeline down the same corridor from Prudhoe Bay to Valdez, and there to liquefy the natural gas.'... I said, 'Yes, Mr. X, I remember that was the proposal. In fact, there are still many hundreds of men in Alaska right now who are here for the purpose of being a part of the construction job to build that natural gas pipeline.'... 'Yes,' Mr. X said, 'That project was to start on the heels of this one, but I am predicting now, Chaplain, that the natural gas of the Prudhoe Bay oil field will never be produced.'... 'There's enough natural gas on the North Slope of Alaska to provide the entire United States with natural gas for the next two hundred years. If every other natural gas well in America were shut off, there would still be enough natural gas on the North Slope to provide for the total projected natural gas needs for all of the United States for 200 years. That is based on the present calculated rate of consumption and the expected increased consumption year by year - there's still enough there to provide all the projected needs of the United States for 200 years.' ... '...that natural gas pipeline will never be built.'... " (pg 204-206)

"I asked [Mr. X], 'What are you doing with the natural gas at Prudhoe Bay? That gas comes out of the ground right along with the oil.'... He told me... 'We are pumping the same gas back into the same field that it came from...' [I heard the author state recently that the oil companies are now using about forty or so Boeing 747 type engines to pump the gas back into the ground virtually 24 hours a day, 365 days a year]... Mr. X... gave a startling prediction that came true only a few months later... He made the projection that President Carter would have a choice [about 1976] as to which way the natural gas pipeline would be constructed. It could be built down the same present corridor [800 miles]... or [it could be] built across Canada [3,000 miles]... Mr. X said, 'Chaplain, I predict that when the President comes to the time of his choice, he will choose that the natural gas pipeline must be built across Canada...' ... 'Why do you predict that?' ... He answered, 'Within 6 months time we could be producing natural gas for America, down the present corridor which has already been built for it... If that were done, there would never be any crisis of natural gas in all the lower 48 states of America... But, Chaplain, if the President chooses to take the natural gas pipeline across Canada, it will never be built... there is no consortium of gas companies in the world that could afford to build that pipeline... the red tape that is involved, and the approval by Canada... plus, of course, the royalties that Canada would require of us...'... Then I asked, "Mr. X, are you trying to tell me that President Carter and his advisors intentionally chose for that pipeline to go across Canada, because he [or his controllers] wanted to stop that gas from reaching the lower 48 states?' Mr. X looked back at me and said, 'Chaplain, that is exactly right... mark my words that natural gas pipeline will never be built.'" (pg 207-210) (Of course, as of 6/23/01 it still has not been built.)

"And what about Alaska? You guessed it! Morris Udahl's bill came along, so now we will take most of the land in Alaska, and lock it up in wilderness areas for all time and eternity. This was just one more part of the great plan to lock up all the energy that is so abundant in the North Slope of Alaska. The D-2 land bill has passed, the natural resources can never be produced. It can never be drilled, and it can never be used." (pg 211) (If you still think these political things don't really effect you in your life, and that this world conspiracy isn't anything that will ever really effect 'me,' think of the fact - next time you fill up your car's gas tank - that the price per gallon for gasoline would probably be half what it is now if it wasn't for this VERY REAL conspiracy to use energy dependency as another way to CONTROL America.)

"[The] ultimate objective is to get Americans to agree to - in fact, to request - socialization." (pg 213) (Socialism by definition is TOTAL GOVERNMENT, or TOTAL CONTROL. Socialism also teaches that the State is the custodian of the children - and us for that matter.)

"It seemed strange to me that I was told by oil company officials a number of months in advance where the next '[energy] crisis' would occur. One section after another of America has been tried, to see just how far they could be pushed before they rebel. Then, at the point of rebellion, the government backs off. All of a sudden there is no energy crisis in that area anymore... [These crisis are] 'created' for the express purpose of finding out just how far you and I could be pushed before we rebel." (pg 219)

The author describes talking to a man who lived near Estes National Park in the center of Colorado. This man was a firefighter whose job it was to fight fires in this National Park. He noticed that drilling rigs were secretively drilling for oil in the national park when a forest fire broke out. The BLM, for no apparent reason, emphatically said NO ONE BUT THEM was to fight that fire even though they were not equipped to do so. This was done in order to keep outsiders from finding out the government had allowed oil drilling in this national park. The BLM let the fire burn and this firefighter found out that some of the drill rigs were burned. However, after doing some investigative work the firefighter found out that they started the drilling all over again and that they had located a very sizable oil find but, after they found it, they capped it and refused to let the oil company produce it. This happens in other oil-productive areas all over this country again and again - the government refuses to allow the oil to be produced, but yet they want to know where it is. (pg 219-222)

The author describes talking to another man whose job it was to go around the different areas of Wyoming and check the level of the big oil tanks and the oil that is being pumped out of the ground. This man said in 1974 the government cut back the number of actual pumping actions that the pumps could make every 24 hours. This effectively reduced the amount of oil being produced from this region during the 1974 oil crisis. It was obvious to him that there was an intentional cutback in the production of the oil in that part of Wyoming during that time. (pg 222-223)

"A nation void of character can neither demand nor expect good government... The quality of government declines with the quality of the people... As the character of the people declines, the result is that less and less pressure is extended on their government to uphold basic principles." (pg 233)

That's a lot of stuff. Hope it spurs thought.

DeltaChaos



posted on Apr, 26 2004 @ 09:26 PM
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DeltaChaos e-mailed me the file, and for a limited time you can download it here:

www.shoktek.com...



[Edited on 26-4-2004 by Shoktek]



posted on Apr, 26 2004 @ 09:30 PM
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How many cars were in the parking lot? I'm wondering just what this fellow spent to become famous (in Salt Lake City?)



posted on Apr, 26 2004 @ 09:33 PM
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I love ATS, it's a great anti depressant
hahahaha!!!



posted on Apr, 26 2004 @ 09:44 PM
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Originally posted by Shoktek
DeltaChaos e-mailed me the file, and for a limited time you can download it here:

www.shoktek.com...

MAN that things big! I bet the one who put the thing together will be mighty pleased when he finds his stuff up here. If he is getting kickbacks from the publishers, he better kick me down most of them, 'cause floppy disks under windshield wipers isn't quite the best distribution method, methinks.

DC



posted on Apr, 26 2004 @ 09:49 PM
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Originally posted by Spiderj
...I am not implying that DC is playing the game...
Yeah, I really don't have time to play a game right now and for the next month... I think I might not even have time for this! If I did have time, I'd probably be paying a little more attention to the Rings.

DC



posted on Apr, 26 2004 @ 09:52 PM
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Originally posted by DeltaChaos
I bet the one who put the thing together will be mighty pleased when he finds his stuff up here.


...waits for some nutcase old member to post "Hey! You found my disk..."



posted on Apr, 26 2004 @ 10:04 PM
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It sounds like someone has read alot of books and is probably genuinely concerned about the stuff that is happening. He/she figured this would be the safest and most sure means of dissemination, and placed the disks on as many cars as possible, hoping to alert more people to these perceived threats to our freedom.



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