This could be a Biiiig blow to skeptics...

i really wish this aired in canada it's on Wed 10pm eastern right ?... its never on my history channel

So is it on at 10pm everywhere? So the east coast can watch it 3 hours before the west coast? If so, someone on the east coast watch it and post here if anything worthwhile happens, as it's on in 30 minutes.

There is a lot of awsome replys here,,,

A lot of you guys are smart!!


I beleive we are being visited..
the implant/abduction cases are real,,

lets say 99.9% of all ufo related cases are explainable,, BUT add all the unreported cases in also,,,so now we have it 10+ folds,,,,
My opinion then would be we have several to a dozen+ visitations daily that are real..

Its not just having a just a peice of "something" here,,,these are individuals who have these inside them,,
now hopefully these trackers/implants can be studied and figured out,,,

Im going to watch the show and hopefully add some more peices to the puzzle,,,

hugs everyone,,,



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Originally posted by ugie1028
reply to post by amyfriend

 

its alright

we all miss some things once in a while.

its going to be a good show i beleive... if they add the part about the surgecally removed items from these victims skin and compare it to metal found near UFO crash sites...

Witnesses from the surgeries, and the analysis of both metals will undoubtedly be a HUGE link between aliens/ufo's...

witnesses claim abductions, implanted with tracking devices, and then have it removed... where the objects were, no visible scars (except after the surgery.) this is direct physical evidence with witness testimony and scientific analysis, id imagine the sheeple sticking their heads in the sand for this one, the fencers falling off their perch (who knows which side they will fall on) and the believers just have another piece of evidence in their huge locker of evidence.... Will it be acknowledged?

NOPE!

Will it be takn seriously? NOPE!?

Will skeptics have a hard time chewing this one?

YES!

Unless their teeth are made from some alien alloy that is unbreakable, then... the skeptics have their meal!

hey,,,alls good hun,,,

I think this will be a VERY interesting show,,,,!!

with the number of solid cases on UFO sightings ones got to give credence to the abductions/implants,,,

Well, I marked this show early this morning, just so I wouldn't forget. It's on now, and I'm still hopeful.

reply to post by ufo reality


Hello,

Okay, the title of this thread shows a clear mis-understanding by the author of what I would call 'serious skeptics' are all about...

Honestly - I WANT to see proof that makes me believe... I really do.

I simply cannot wait to see something that blows me away.

Whilst I am always going to respond to clear stupid posts and call them out... I am merely trying to point out the fakes so as to help the better posts to shine through.

If and when I see posts that present credible stories, photos or videos - I will most likely post responses to get clarifications additional proof etc.

reply to post by askbaby


I watched it and was not blown away.

Sparkles on a tree?

Tests turns out it was bird pee.

Melted dirt.

Conclusion is no one on a farm in Poland could do it.

Weird looking thing.

Original tests didn't fit what they wanted to hear so they concluded they were lying about their results because they were scared.

So they go to two more scientist who gives them the answers they were wanting.

Their conclusion is it is nanotechnology that wasn't around in 1985.

Well after the show, I'm very intrigued. I'm honestly surprised he is still in possession of this object. But I didn't know about the hotel safe, and how they had to drill into it 3 nights in a row. That's wild. And of course, the scientists saying in a nutshell.. it's manufactured (0% chance of being natural), and we can't make it. HUh!

And the fact that it would be the perfect semiconductor... in space.. was very interesting as well. I am curious how much we have to try prove things are NOT from this planet to make ourselves feel safer and superior.

The rest of the show.. meh, that was not a huge deal to me. The test with a torch was ridiculous imo, what a waste of time. But the last bit was the part I was watching for anyway.

Was the show anyway worthwhile? It starts in an hour where I live and I don't know if I want to spend an hour watching the show if it doesn't make any good or new pieces of evidence. And what happened with the alloy object?

Warning West Coasters - *Spoilers*

I used to be disappointed by UFO Hunters, but lately they've been doing some pretty good shows with a decent amount of research and follow-up. I think they wasted too much time on the first two stories, which had little payoff.

Bob White's artifact is intriguing.

The two researchers who tested the object concluded that the structures were indicative of nano-technology that would not have been possible at the time the object was found.

I think the story is completely credible and the object is indeed anomalous.

Still, it tells us nothing about the craft that "dropped" the object and it's purpose is still unknown.

Once again, left with that "Great, but so what" feeling

Bob`s object looks like a tektite or meteorite, so yes it could contain alloys not from earth, you know, like my implant.

reply to post by I Am Spartacus


Could this be an explanation to it?

A couple of things aboput tonights episode: The part about creating vitrified earth was very misleading. It could be done with common "farm" equipment, given some time. Say it takes a day or two to raise a large amount of material to that type of temperature. It would not have to be done in a couple of minutes. That is the beauty of a hoax, there is no time limit. And, it would be much easier to go to the local kiln/refinery/foundery and get some slag. I'll bet no one would miss it. The "BoB White" metal is an artifact from a plasma torch. This is unmistakeable for anyone that has been involved with thermal coatings. Industrial thermal coatings are in many cases applied with a plasma torch. The torch itself very much like the ones you can buy at Sears to cut metal only a little more power. The material to be applied is powdered, and fed into the gas stream flowing through the torch. It is melted and "sprayed" on to the substrate. If you leave one running and pointed at the same spot for a while you get a big "ice cicle" like the Bob White peice. I have seen this many times. As for the composition, I question the university guy's analysis. Using XRD, (X-ray defractometry) you should be able to get the exact composition, not just a guess. And if you were a little stumped, it would be because you can get many species with that type of process.

-From the ufo hunters forum at the history channel website.

The show was good...

There sincere on there facts and story....

reply to post by bl4ke360


boards.history.com...

If you were actually paying attention to the episode
> you would have seen that the University Scientist
> (David Lamb) identified all the peaks and elements in
> his XRD. He noted a few unique things about his
> analysis; it contained a high content of Ag and
> included an amorphous peak along with polycrystalline
> peaks. His conclusion was that Bob Whites Object
> (BWO) was very different then any aluminum alloy he
> has seen. At the end of the show Bill stated that Mr
> Lamb had just called in and reported that through
> further analysis the BWO was a quasi crystal.

we have the exact xray defraction test results..the show did not
have time to cover the complete list.....its hard to squeeze 12 years worth of testing into 10 minutes.

as the new scientist states...the testing done so far is
documented and has been reviewed by others..this isnt being thrown out to the sheeples with out having
rock solid results of what we have found from the research
done so far.

we are saying on record exactly what we know now..the facts dont lie...

we have a piece of aluminum that matches nothing made on this planet now or in 1985 when bob white recovered it
on highway 6 west of grand junction colorado in 1985.

we can find absolutely NO PROCESS TO MAKE THIS OBJECT nor can we find anything that comes close to looking like the bob white artifact let alone do half of what it is doing right now.

there is a readable EMF signal in the 500 hertz range coming from the object
and we have multipul testing showing gamma, beta, and fast neutron radiation being emmitted also.

for anyone to jump to the conclusion that the BWO object is MUNDANE shows the ignorance of THE homo sapians who think they got all the answers. Mundane isnt the word i would use.

FANTASTIC, UNIQUE, REMARKABLE or BIZARRE would be the correct words to describe the artifact...

mundane just dont cover it.

as to why the ends of the object are flat is the little end was removed for tests done by NIDS and the large end was removed by LOS ALAMOS for tests done at that lab.

as far as david lamb goes he didnt know what he was testing when we took in a sample of the object. we asked the university hes at to run the XRD tests on a sample of metal..thats all they new at first..

after we had the tests documented on video we told the story...the university refused to bill us because they didnt want their name associated with UFO's. imagine that. david couldnt say where he is at...you notice all the other names where covered also...that is CONSPRISY TO WITH HOLD EVIDENCE and you would be thrown in jail if you did that in court.

david lamb had enough courage to come on record on national television and tell the truth about what he had found. thats all we have ever asked of any lab..THE TRUTH.

that applies to the other scientist Chris Ellis and Dr Robert Gibbons who have gone on record
with true honest answers to what has been found so far.

dr gibbons credentials and expertise in his field as a specialist in nuclear medicine, and work done for NASA and many others is on the record. hes knows what hes talking about when he opens his mouth.

dr gibbons please put your resume down for everyone to see..

larry cekander

ufoevidence.conforums.com...

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You can only go as far as you PUSH.

I'm hoping Bob Gardner shows for the Billy Meier presentation at the Mufon meeting this month but I know he has been busy.

Also when checking out the history channel and ufo hunters I came across this and thought it very interesting bu our own Johnny A.

www.youtube.com...

Okay, I tried to fix the link but don't know how but since Johnny A. is here I wonder if he can fix it and tell us about it.

It was copyright in 06 by Johnny A. happened on Jan.18th at 6:42 p.m.

[edit on 9-5-2009 by observe50]

I used to be a huge fan of UFO Hunters but grew tired of the same old story. They claim to find some extraordinary evidence and then it turns out to be cow manure. It's a show meant to draw ratings and advertisment just like any other television show. Disclosure will not come from an edited and recorded broadcast on the History Channel. I highly doubt that this episode with change the minds of Seti's Seth Shostak or Skeptical Enquirer's Michael Schermer. I believe we have been and still are being visited by E.T but think any information from this show is complete b.s.....

What is important at least to me is just the fact alone they are keeping this subject in the forfront so it isn't again forgotten.

As far as Seth and Michael go what a joke pleasssssssssssssssssssse!

You do have real live abductee's and experiencers right here on ATS and most don't have the sense to be able to tell who the real deal ones are.

So sad

SCIENTISTS STATE ON RECORD THE OBJECT BOB WHITE RECOVERED IS A NEW UNKNOWN ALLOY..

"LATEST RESEARCH FINDINGS"

Physicist Chris Ellis, expert in solid state physics, aluminum alloys,
and superconductors. Test result showed the object is an alloy of
unknown origin. It is also his expert opinion that this is a manufactured alloy.

Research Scientist David Lamb, expert in physics and material science.
Also works at a major US university. Findings were achieved using
X-Ray Diffraction Analysis: The artifact showed an unique “amorphous peak
and is a polycrystalline semiconductor”. To his knowledge this type of material
is not found anywhere on Earth. Also there is silver concentration of 4.3%,
here on Earth silver is used in this form by experimental scientist as a
catalyst for a superconductor. It is sprayed over aluminum and thus is in small
amounts as we see here from the test results. He postulated that this
could be used on a craft as a way to dispel magnetic fields, especially
in space as there is no energy expenditure needed for superconductivity.
Lamb has further speculated that this artifact is in fact a “quasi-crystal of
complex structure.” This is only in its early stages on Earth in the form of nanotechnology.

Bob White and the members of the Hardevidence Team want to thank
the cast and crew of the UFO HUNTERS TV show for the excellent
presentation of the BOB WHITE CASE STUDY on the History Channel May 6, 2009.

The professional way the show was taped and presented to the public
show the dedication of the UFO HUNTERS and their producer John Greenewald Jr.,
how much they care about exposing the Government cover-up of good solid physical
trace case's such as Mr. White's.

You can debunk the story but you cant debunk the the evidence presented last night.

The Bob White object is the best case on record of extraterrestrial origins of
of a manufactured metal alloy.