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A curious Nazi occult tale

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posted on Dec, 31 2010 @ 10:16 AM
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Hi guys,

Thanks for the fascinating thread.

I'm not sure if this link has already been posted but here it is just in case. It's a collection of texts, literature and pictures about Celle that mention some of the topics presented here. You might find it interesting but will have to use Google Translate or something as it's in German


Celle in National Socialism

I don't have any connection with Celle but I lived in West Germany in the 1960's (as a kid) in Sennelager and my playground was right on the edge of Luneberg Heath. This was linked to Celle by means of the POW rail network to Bergen-Belsen (mentioned on the site linked above). I have clear memories of playing in an area there with old train tracks and tank loading ramps and kicking up faded grey uniform scraps and odd bones. Rumour had it at the time (remember I was a kid) that there was a mass grave for Russian POW's. Reading through stuff on the site linked seems to confirm that this was true as many 000's of POW's in the area died from typhoid, cold and hunger.

And on a possible conspiracy note... Halliburton's German headquarters is in Celle.

Thanks again for the thread.

cheers




posted on Jan, 1 2011 @ 07:08 AM
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Thanks for your input Chasyb, Lower Saxony Celle, Belsan, and weizindorth were scenes of mass death, Not only of Jews but russian POWs up to 60,000 at a final reckoning,
From what i gathered it was mainly the Hungarian SS involved in the guarding of the prisoners and they were not a nice bunch of people, Kapos did the real dirty work and were left unchecked to do as they pleased.

With so much death and destruction going on "anything" could have come and went at this period of time,
Which lead me to speculate on the theory of Vampires of Germany, from wiki and yahoo,.

A Nachzehrer is a sort of German vampire. Nachzehrer translates "afterwards (nach) living being (zehrer)". The Nachzehrer was prominent in the Northern region of Germany including Silesia and Bavaria and also with the Kashubes of Northern Europe. Though officially a vampire, they are also similar to zombies, and in many ways different from either undead. The nachzehrer is not a blood sucker. Instead, they live off of the consumption of already dead bodies,

bearing in mind the Celle hare hunt and the liberation of Celle where the Allies described Heidi kaserne as a mini Belsan,

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posted on Jan, 9 2011 @ 12:25 PM
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I served with 2rrf at Trenchard Bks 96-98 and can remember the tunnel entrance in front of the families office what was originally an SS mess. There was definitely lower floors that had been blocked off in parts of the camp because there are elevator doors that have been welded shut but some had enough of a gap to shine a torch in to see that there are further floors beneath the basement areas. The site was used by SS and a German ATY unguided rockets regiment with rumours of some chemical warfare capabilities on site. You can see from looking out from the main gate an old small gauge rail tunnel entrance not far from the pads and the whole area in location to Bergen Belsen (Hone) has a rail network above ground for the obvious movement of POW and munitions, it would make sense to run an underground coms system aswel. I have heard the foot steps in the empty blocks of the camp and on one particular night on a guard patrol I entered the old SS mess block and could hear voices in the attic! on investigation I came across a locked mesh cage with a radio set inside, switched on with net activity in German I think coming from the headset. There are blast walls in the attic at each end as a defensive obstacle. The roads on camp are granite cobble stones hand laid by the POWs and is an actual monument to them which is treat with such respect as to be maintained by the local authorities. God only knows howmany prisoners dyed on site but defo a nasty feel in the air on a night!



posted on Jan, 9 2011 @ 12:32 PM
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There is also a graveyard in Trenchard Bks with Canadian, British and German graves. A remberance pde is held by local civpop on site every year!



posted on Mar, 17 2011 @ 03:16 PM
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Just been reading the thread for the past few hours from the start.
As you can see not much of a poster but I was just wondering if you had come across anything else?
I also found a painting of it think it was done around 1916

Thanks for the great research and work

Jake



posted on Mar, 18 2011 @ 02:42 AM
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First a big thanks to the divers section of HMS Bangor which was docked in her home town on St patricks day, A great few guinness was put to rest this day, ( and heather didnt get a round in, smart girl )
once again thanks guys...

The great thing on this picture is the smoke stacks on the roof of Blk14, Which was linked to the coal boiler in the basement area, Which i suspect was used for other purposes other than coal burning,






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posted on Mar, 18 2011 @ 11:36 AM
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Originally posted by Chasyb

And on a possible conspiracy note... Halliburton's German headquarters is in Celle


Were you talking about this?



Largest neo-Nazi group in the western United States has a Halliburton executive as its leader.



posted on Mar, 18 2011 @ 12:03 PM
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Also, the chimneys seem to have been removed since then,





Was the boiler room open to you? If not and was sealed up, and had knocked the chimney breast down, would have they had to seal these openings up to the boiler room?

Jake



posted on Mar, 19 2011 @ 02:54 AM
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OK Jake, Thanks for posting. As you can see in the picture below there is a coal mound ready to be stored in the basement area (bottom left). All that i can remember is the old boiler room was modified in the 80s to use heating oil, The boiler room was one level below ground, Also there is an old guard room and cells in the basement area its exact location i am not sure..





posted on Mar, 19 2011 @ 03:09 AM
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great story. Im very interested in finding out what the ss expiremented with. I know lots of it is still classified.

I bet they put some type of expirimental fish in those lower floors,knowing that the people that came next would venture into the mouths of them.

maybe they even had hidden cameras,laughing as the divers got eaten.



posted on Apr, 3 2011 @ 05:26 AM
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OK, guys been digging around some post 1945 archives from the liberation of bergen/belsen, Celle, Houne camps, And came up with this snippet of information relating to the treatment of German POWs post war.

"Then I stumbled acorss "Other Losses - An Investigation into the Mass Deaths of Gemran Prisoners of War After World War II" by James Bacque, published 1989. He did a follow on to this "Crimes and Mercies - The Fate of German Civilians Under Allied Occupation, 1944-1950" published 1997. Both books have an excellent bibliography for further research".


From ARRSE,CO,UK...

Now i have read this book (a long time ago) and it basically relates to the treatment of German POWs and civilians after the cease fire, the little or no rations available to distribute to the populous of that time,

I was pondering after the liberation of Celle Heidi kerserne (Blk 14) there was mentioned that it was a micro bergen / belsen environment, Did the Holocaust victims quite simply put the camp guards (77er) down the cellars and flood and seal them as an act of revenge ?

And maybe this is the real reason that Blk 14 is now a national memorial ?.. one can only speculate,



posted on Oct, 5 2011 @ 10:46 AM
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Bugger, just wrote out a three paragraph spiel and pressed cut instead of copy to spell check it! Oh well, Foxhoundone, mate cant believe how much work you've put into this! Not genned up yet so I'll have a read through and see if I can add anything, sorry to you and anyone else who has joined this rather interesting tale and wondered where the OP has dissappeared to! Im back now and will try and help anyone still interested.



posted on Oct, 5 2011 @ 01:33 PM
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SOXMIS where the feeken hell have you been mucker ?, alot of stuff has been dug up since your last visit but nothing to startling, was planning a visit but due to family bereavement things went pear shaped (family gained an MBE and a MC no less). So hows the dark side treating you (China:lol
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I did manage to get together a quirky paranormal squad, More to do with the beer than "vampire hunting" cause i think thats somthing that has to be delved into more, But its getting people to take it more seriously than a beer run, all said and done. So get your admin gripped and start your posting, Good to see ya back chum,



posted on Nov, 1 2011 @ 10:29 AM
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Found this guys..


[yvid]http://youtu.be/DwxAciJsiq4
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If someone can fix this ill be very happy..
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posted on Nov, 1 2011 @ 10:58 AM
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Nice post OP! There are some references to the Spear of Destiny on ATS. I have not reread them in some time. You might be interested. I remember seeing almost exactly this story on one of the maybe History channel programs on Nazi/occult I think. You might also look that up. Also I don't think Hitler had the spear at least at the end. The lore of the Spear is that the owner could not be defeated in battle - I think.



posted on Nov, 1 2011 @ 02:17 PM
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posted on Nov, 2 2011 @ 07:16 AM
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For the above post, still trying to plug Celle as a quaint little village ?

Visit Celle Town Hall in Germany

Take a tour of Celle Town Hall in Germany - part of the World’s Greatest Attractions travel video series by GeoBeats. Celle is a charming German town, home to an impressive building, which is now a town hall. The Celle Town hall is a stunning Neo-Gothic structure whose length spans an imposing 181 meters. However, before the year 1993, and some restoration work, its purpose was of a drastically dissimilar nature.



posted on Nov, 2 2011 @ 08:28 AM
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This is the best read I've had on ATS for (what feels like) weeks!

It's late here but I'll be back

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posted on Nov, 2 2011 @ 03:06 PM
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Nice thread. Send in the divers!

Or get that director who did Titanic and The Abyss. I know he likes underwater films and has even invented special underwater cameras.

Anyway, thought I'd add this little bit about Bergen-Belsen camp and a special aspect of it, since people commented on US involvement in that camp, it seems topical to post this snippet from Edwin Black's book IBM and the Holocaust:




www.amazon.com...

The Hollerith installations at Auschwitz, Buchenwald, Dachau, and
Mauthausen were only part of an extensive network of camp punching and
tabulating services that stretched across Europe. At Stutthof camp in subjugated
Poland, coded 012, the Hollerith Department used six-digit registrations
beginning with zero. At the nightmarish Gusen camps, the Hollerith cards
were not only set up to record personal biographical and work assignments,
they also recorded the gruesome details of painful punishments administered
to prisoners, such as floggings and hanging from a tree with arms
bound in back. At Westerbork transfer camp in Holland, Hitler's Holleriths
were used to schedule efficient trainfuls of prisoners destined for Auschwitz
gas chambers, and then report the numbers back to the registration office.42

At Bergen-Belsen, where surviving prisoners were described by liberators
as "emaciated apathetic scarecrows huddled together in wooden huts,"
the Hollerith cards were maintained in a barracks dubbed "the lion's den,"
located in the Arbeitseinsatz. To obliterate all evidence of the mass murders
documented by the Hollerith records, Himmler ordered all camp card
indices to be destroyed before the Allies arrived.43

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posted on Nov, 8 2011 @ 09:39 AM
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Shakespear1 i owe you an apology the link you provided was full of alot of valuable information, just waiting to be read and digested, many thanks my friend

If you guys remember i posted a picture of a wind direction indicator in the form off an eagle, Which lead me to speculate on the theory of something airborne coming and going from Blk14 Heidi kaserna. now i delved into the theory of Naucht stalkers (Germanic vampires) and found it plausible as it ties in with the Nazis quest for a thousand year reign.
In shakespears link there is mention of a species that are called Draco's (Dracula ?)

A brief description..

The Draco's are omnivores and move across planets like locust for the natural
resources, including food, which in this case is us. There will be huge supporting
evidence in this book showing they are using us for food. Draco's have two hearts, are
between 7 to 12 feet tall, and have the strength of 8 to 16 men. They are hard to kill,
have psychic and technological skills in battle that are thousands of years ahead of
ours, they’re cold-blooded, and have no remorse or compassion.

Basically uncontrollable entities..

I will post more when i have more information.... Fox



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