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Originally posted by kozmo
reply to post by maybereal11
So... WTF is your point then??? Sounds like making guns illegal in this country wouldn't change a thing in Mexico. Your posts make no sense.
Look, I understand that you're afraid of guns. I get that. I also get that you're prepared to change the Constitution in THIS country for a false sense of security in another country even though the cartel would still have guns - lots of them! But you're not making a lick of sense. You're stretching from one non-sequitur to another completely abandoning your previous argument every step of the way. Tis the Liberal way, sadly!
You'd serve yourself well to read a little Thomas Jefferson and Benjamin Franklin!
Originally posted by Snisha
Originally posted by jimmyx
ok...all you people...READ THE F'IN CIFTA PAPER COMPLETELY!!! it took me 5 minutes to find where they DO NOT ban ownership, sales, even trading of weapons...what's wrong with you.
Perhaps it would be prudent to not only read H.R. 45 but comprehend what it implies also.
The measure calls for all handgun owners to submit to the federal government an application that shall include, among many other things: a photo; an address; a thumbprint; a completed, written firearm safety test; private mental health records; and a fee. And those are only some of the requirements to be licensed!
The bill would further require the attorney general to establish a database of every handgun sale, transfer, and owner's address in America. Moreover, the bill would make it illegal to own or possess a "qualifying firearm" -- defined as "any handgun; or any semiautomatic firearm that can accept any detachable ammunition feeding device without one of the proposed licenses
Originally posted by jd140
That looks to me as if they want to ban ownership, sales and trade of firearms to me.
QUALIFYING FIREARM.—The term ‘‘qualifying firearm’’
9 has the meaning given the term in
10 section 921(a) of title 18, United States Code, as
11 amended by subsection (b) of this section.
12 (b) AMENDMENT TO TITLE 18, UNITED STATES
13 CODE.—Section 921(a) of title 18, United States Code,
14 is amended by adding at the end the following:
15 ‘‘(36) The term ‘qualifying firearm’—
16 ‘‘(A) means—
17 ‘‘(i) any handgun; or
18 ‘‘(ii) any semiautomatic firearm that
19 can accept any detachable ammunition
20 feeding device; and
21 ‘‘(B) does not include any antique.’’.
IN GENERAL.—It shall be unlawful for any
person other than a licensed importer, licensed manufacturer, licensed dealer, or licensed collector to possess a qualifying firearm on or after the applicable date, unless that person has been issued a firearm license
Originally posted by Hawkwind.
I don't see what the fuss is about. We aren't allowed guns in this country and there's less violent crime/murder than there is in the U.S.
Isn't it possible that your guns being taken away is a price worth paying? You can use stun guns or cattle prods to protect you instead can't you? Does your defence HAVE to be lethal? Can you not use non-lethal devices instead? That way we won't have to read about kids accidently blowing their heads off because they've been playing with Daddy's gun? (okay I know tht particular example is rare but it's only an example)
Now, obviously I'm going to get a pro-gun rant aimed at what I've just said, I'll probably be subject to a few examples of situations where people's lives have been saved due to gun ownership but when it comes down to it abolishing guns would save more lives than having them, hide behind the second amendment all you like but that's a fact.
Originally posted by SJE98
Ok, people from the UK ( England ) Stop already. We know what you think. This topic is about taking away or threatening to take a away United States Citizens right to own a weapon. I.e. the 2nd amendment. I’m sure most you residing in the UK have no idea what the 2nd amendment is or have read it. if you’re not a citizen of the USA then butt out already. This is not a topic on your personal beliefs and the laws of Great Brittan. get over yourselfs already.
Originally posted by fastest636
reply to post by Hawkwind.
Ive read your worthless reply, with no facts to back up your claim that your country is better off without a firearm. Couple things I would like to remind you of. First, know your role, your a subject under a Queen, and King. Second, Here in the UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, we are NOT a subject. I know this might seem strange to ya, we have the right to own, and bear arms.....Guess your history books deleted that too. Ill keep this short, in AMERICA, We are given a GOD given right to bear, and own arms. With this right, we are NOT a subject, but a citizen. I know, that freedom isnt something you can relate to, I understand that the United States is here for that simple fact, that us colonists, were done, with dealing with stupid people. I see some of ya are still breathing. I ask that you keep your opinion to yourself, cuz Im betting that you didnt run it buy a queen, or king.