posted on Feb, 25 2010 @ 04:29 AM
Originally posted by DanaScully
I am from Germany and I am the wife of James Van Greunen.
My husband commited suicide in 1993 due to pressure from Intelligence services
What my husband had to give to the world was Real. He only offered the truth to mankind.
Most people that have looked into the "Kalahari incident", including me, disagree.
With all due respect, the available evidence suggests that James Van Greunen was not offering "the truth".
A brief summary of the general consensus about this case is offered on Wikipedia's page
about UFO sightings in South Africa
1989 Kalahari crash
According to supposed leaked documents an alien craft was shot down by South African aircraft, some 80 miles into Botswana, on 7 May. Two alien beings
were claimed to have been captured on site. To date no primary witnesses have been traced, while the supporting documents, some obvious fakes, were
all obtained from James van Greunen. Researcher Tony Dodd lent Van Greunen some credibility in Quest magazine, but other researchers were highly
In addition to considering various relevant articles and documents (online and offline), I have previously collated references to discussion of this
incident in various UFO books - including the following (sorted in alphabetical order by book author):
- 2 page discussion by Jerome Clark in his “The UFO Encyclopedia: 1st edition: Volume 1 – UFOs in the 1980s” (1990) at pages 69-70 of the
Apogee hardback edition in an entry entitled “Crashes of UFOs”.
- 2 page discussion by Jerome Clark in his “The UFO Encyclopedia: The Phenomenon from the Beginning - 2nd edition” (1998) in Volume 2:L-Z at
pages 870-871 (in an entry entitled “South African Crash Hoax”) of the Omnigraphics hardback edition.
- 40 page discussion by Tony Dodd in his “Alien Investigator” (1999) at pages 33-42 and 46-75 (in Chapter 2) of the Headline paperback
- 2 page discussion by Kevin Randle in his “A history of UFO crashes” (1995) at pages 211-212 (in Appendix A, “The UFO Crash Data Base”) of
the Avon paperback edition.
- 11 page discussion by Kevin Randle in his “Case MJ-12” (2002) at pages 276-286 (in the Appendix generally) of the Harper Torch paperback
- 4 page discussion by Jenny Randles in her “UFO Retrievals” (1995) at pages 151-154 (in Chapter 7) of the Blandford softback edition.
- 3 page discussion by Nicholas Redfern in his “A Covert Agenda” (1997) at pages 248, 250-251 (in Chapter 17) of the Simon & Schuster hardback
- 2 page discussion by Nicholas Redfern in his “Cosmic Crashes” (1999) at pages 191-192 (in Chapter 9) of the Simon & Schuster hardback
- 7 page discussion by Daniel M Salter in his “Life With a Cosmos Clearance” (2003) at pages 29-30, 32, 33-34, 35, 36 (in Chapter 3) of the
Light Technology softcover edition.
After this I wish that everyone and the world will just let my husband have peace in his grave.
While I'm sure everyone on ATS is sympathetic to your personal loss of a loved one, your posts raise interesting questions.
Should everyone stop pointing out the reasons for considering someone to have been a hoaxer because he has died?
Should we take everything said by someone as the gospel truth because he has died since making the relevant claims?
Should we just ignore the entire incident, leaving the claims made by a hoaxer to stand unchallenged in various UFO publications?
Our Family have sufferd enough!
If your husband did indeed hoax this "crash", then do you not think he is responsible for various people suggesting he was a hoaxer?
If you have reasons for considering that James Van Greunen has been misjudged, I would be happy to raise specific questions about him and his claims
(whether openly on the ATS forums or - if the moderators have no objection - by more private means).
[edit on 25-2-2010 by IsaacKoi]