reply to post by Mike_A
The enlightening part for her and for others who find similar conclusions, one way or another, is that we are more than our brain chatter. That is the
truth that she found and many others have found as well. That is what is enlightening. It is not like she is saying she understands all the secrets
and mysteries of the universe. I am guessing that understanding this different state of being opened her eyes to the fact that there is more to
herself than she thought there was before this experience.
As far as, being one with your surroundings, that is an experience, so it sort of hard to describe. It sort of like losing yourself to a point that
instead of fighting the world around you for control, you learn to except them, change what is a necessity and possible and be content with the rest.
It is a very peaceful feeling to understand what is yours to control in this world and what is out of your hands. I think it is essential for
lessening the burden of stress that is put upon you in this world and many older people who have become wise to the ways this world works have found
this out for themselves.
Your statement "anthropomorphizing a collection of energies and states of matter and ascribing emotions to them that don’t really exist." I think
it fairly overstepping to state straight out that these states and energies "don't really exist," as if you had the great knowledge of all that is
and all that ever was. But to put it frankly, these states and energies really do exist and they are easily observed. The easy way to observe them is
to just observe a small child before they are too focused on learning how to just get what they want by any means possible. You will quickly be able
to see their contentment in their just being conscious and their zest that they have for living in and learning about the world around them. It is
something the majority of us lose as the cynicism of age and experience get the better of us.
I think for the most part you misunderstood what I meant when I was speaking of psychic energy. Psychic energy is not anything mystical. It is brain
power pure and simple. Living with constant the noise of our internal voices, we become depleted of our brain power much quicker. And when we really
need to use our brains for something important we are less efficient and competent in our thoughts because of its tiredness. So, in the end it is
nothing mystical, just common sense. Turning off of this chatter is very difficult for some people, and lead some to be excessively tired and
As far as being in a clear, not inhabited by vacant thought, mind is that it will not give you all the truths of the universe in some mystical burst
of information and energy. But it will give you the mental focus to better understand yourself, the world around you and what you want out of your
existence. Living with an always busy mind is like being trying to do work in a cluttered house. It is difficult to work in, but if you clean the
clutter before you work, it becomes much easier.
The profoundness of anything in our personal experience is just that personal. Making a judgment on what someone else sees as profound, eye-opening or
thought-provoking is in a way very self-centered and judgmental. As far this type of experience, that anyone can have, being an altered state. It is
more akin listening to another part of our brain than just the part that seeks to have control of all your experience. The profound part is that you
can do it yourself by many different avenues: art, meditation, music (my favorite personally), writing, playing, manual labor or motorcycle repair.
There is many paths to this realization.
I personally feel sorry for you not being able to actually "get" what she is talking about for I feel that learning to understand this side of your
existence would be beneficial to your previously stated problem.
I'll say this for everyone who doesn't understand this, the stroke is the unimportant part in this video. Her realizations that came from that are
what is really important. It is somewhat sad that she had to have a stroke to understand this side of existence. Strokes are no path to enlightenment
or realization for most, but a debilitating part life. She just had a very unique experience during one and learned a great deal from it.
BTW, KK, you are too much.
I am glad you were able to keep yourself and your humor through your experiences.
[edit on 5-5-2009 by frailty]